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 Post subject: Runescape gets easier and easier: Why?
PostPosted: July 14th, 2009, 4:59 pm 
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While I was looking back at DI's old forums, I took a look at bank pics and stats, back in 2005


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This was a big achievement then. Note at this time cook-x didn't exist yet. Unsure but I think Pest Control wasn't out yet as well.



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A bank pic from March 2006. Note that d chains were still 22m+ at the time, and guthan sets (barrows newly released) were over 11m.




So, what do you guys think has made the game become easier and easier? Is it because skills are easier to level? Money is easier to find? Everything is cheaper than what it used to be?(not counting the recent inflation though)


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 Post subject: Re: Runescape gets easier and easier: Why?
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It's all releated

Skills gets easier -> Money gets easier to make -> Items gets cheaper (because they get more common)

The main reason is the skills. Soon, 100m will become an easy achievement if it continues like this. I say delete Pest Control, Delete Do X Option and stuff like that.

Then the game would be more interesting, like before.

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wow, that funny but true....

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People complain about things being too hard, and Jagex changes them to make things easier. People are just getting lazier in general and want to be able to get things done quicker. RS will probably keep on getting easier. However, you can argue that while certain things are getting easier, there are also a few hard things being implemented as well. I don't really know what exactly those may be, since I don't really pay attention to members updates, but I'm sure there are at least one or two.

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 Post subject: Re: Runescape gets easier and easier: Why?
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Iron Maiden wrote:
Delete Do X Option and stuff like that.

On the contrary, I'm getting really ***** off at the slow Pray-X speed. I can do the job faster manually, like 5 times faster, even though it's sloppy work.


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It does get easier and easier. What I did in two years on RSC would take like six months on the current version.

Why? I don't know. Players get lazier? Players whine about how this skill has 'do x' but this one doesn't? Etc. Etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Runescape gets easier and easier: Why?
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I think that as we train our skills we are more experienced with getting these greater amounts of xp. This results in high skills and more money income. That is why i think.

P. S. I was think the same thing earlier today and this week 2 as I looked back.

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I 100% Agree. but mostly Get rid of Stealing Creation :mrgreen: that would be the best. I mean come on... Clay items give like 2x the xp. That's Bull for people who had it alot rougher back long ago. I dont have much of a problem with X or Pest Control. But I wish I could blowup S.C

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People complain about things being too hard, and Jagex changes them to make things easier. People are just getting lazier in general and want to be able to get things done quicker. RS will probably keep on getting easier. However, you can argue that while certain things are getting easier, there are also a few hard things being implemented as well. I don't really know what exactly those may be, since I don't really pay attention to members updates, but I'm sure there are at least one or two.

hell, back in rsc you had to trade all the nonstackable items by 12's and even when they made bank notes at first they could only have up to 5 things on them.


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Iron Maiden wrote:
Delete Do X Option and stuff like that.

Do you realize how hard fletching would be!

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Killjoy4eva wrote:
Iron Maiden wrote:
Delete Do X Option and stuff like that.

Do you realize how hard fletching would be!

Killjoy, that's his entire point :lol: Every time an 'X' option is added the game gets easier.


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 Post subject: Re: Runescape gets easier and easier: Why?
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i have my 07' bank account on youtube, it was a very accomplishing achievement, what is now worth 7m.
i totally agree with you, but i like the change and cheaper items.

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Iron Maiden wrote:
It's all releated

Skills gets easier -> Money gets easier to make -> Items gets cheaper (because they get more common)

The main reason is the skills. Soon, 100m will become an easy achievement if it continues like this. I say delete Pest Control, Delete Do X Option and stuff like that.

Then the game would be more interesting, like before.

If you mean time consuming, then yes. But consider this. Say you do delete all those things, then everyone who got ahead on them will have an advantage over everyone else. An upper class would form in Runescape and remain as long as those options weren't available. I totally agree that Runescape has become much easier, but why would Jagex have put in these things if they didn't already consider the consequences of doing so. Personally, I think everything should stay the same, even if it is easier. There is still plenty enough to do that is not easy in the game, and that works fine for me. Plus, f2p never really have it easier then members. You go f2p from now on and I'll guarentee you will appreciate the changes and benefits to members more. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Runescape gets easier and easier: Why?
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When Jagex releases an update there must be something something better than was before. If the update doesn't help you train easier in a skill or get somehow (in some level range) better cash/hour rates, no one will play it.

I wish Jagex could stop doing this and instead, do more and more updates in which stuff is not as related to previous skills and experience rates are not constantly pumped up. Good things to make people play new content without raising experience/hour rates is:
- new emotes (as rewards)
- more customization options (interface tweaking as game content rewards :! )
- completely new skill
- completely new game mechanic (mini-game, e.g. Mobilising Armies)
- new items for looks (as rewards)

If they released new game mechanic and/or new skill they could easily cover most of the year's changes by tweaking up the experience/hour rates in that new content and therefore having no need to raise all experience rate/hour rates in all previous skills.

One huge problem about this whole (current) system is that all best weapons you get at 70's in your combat stats. When new 80+ weapons are introduced, Jagex must raise experience/hour rates once again! Or who would get a new 80+ attack weapon if it had worse stats than a whip??

I wish Jagex could find a solution to this.. New more powerful things are not only threatening exp/h rates but also old skills balance (like Hitpoints). How do we still have 99 hitpoints, even though our max hits have grown by more than 30+ from what it used to be back in the days...

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 Post subject: Re: Runescape gets easier and easier: Why?
PostPosted: July 16th, 2009, 9:36 am 
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It gets easier to train skills as more updates come, which is why I have 99 Cooking and not about 83 which I would have if there was no GE.

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