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PostPosted: November 16th, 2009, 2:52 pm 
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WASHINGTON (AFP) – News photos of President Barack Obama bowing to Japan's emperor have incensed critics here, who said the US leader should stand tall when representing America overseas.

Obama on Monday was in China, having wrapped up the Japan leg of his Asia trip two days earlier. But Washington's punditocracy was still weighing whether or not the US president had disgraced his country two days earlier by having taken a deep bow at the waist while meeting Japan's Emperor Akihito.

Political talk shows have played and replayed the moment from the second day of Obama's week-long Asia tour, which set the blogosphere on fire and chat show tongues wagging.

"I don't know why President Obama thought that was appropriate. Maybe he thought it would play well in Japan. But it's not appropriate for an American president to bow to a foreign one," said conservative pundit William Kristol speaking on the Fox News Sunday program, adding that the gesture bespoke a United States that has become weak and overly-deferential under Obama.

Another conservative voice, Bill Bennett, said on CNN's "State of the Union" program: "It's ugly. I don't want to see it."

"We don't defer to emperors. We don't defer to kings or emperors. The president of the United States -- this coupled with so many apologies from the United States -- is just another thing," said Bennett.

Some conservative critics juxtaposed the image of Obama with one of former US vice president **** Cheney, who greeted the emperor in 2007 with a firm handshake but no bow.

"I'll bet if you look at pictures of world leaders over 20 years meeting the emperor in Japan, they don't bow," Kristol said.

Some said the gesture was particularly grating coming after Obama's bow to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah at a G20 meeting in April.

The US president's Asia trip comes just over a year after he won election to the White House, and is designed to shore up US power in a region increasingly dominated by rising giant China.

But back home, Obama's bow in Japan seems to have grabbed much of the attention being paid to the trip.

The gesture appears to have touched a particularly raw nerve among Obama critics who said the president has hastened America's decline as a world superpower by being too apologetic and too deferential in his dealings with other world leaders.

While most of the commentary about the bow in Japan was decidedly negative, some political observers, like longtime Democratic activist Donna Brazile, came to the president's defense.

"I think it's a gesture of kindness," she told CNN, adding that the bow appeared intended to show "goodwill between two nations that respect each other."

Meanwhile, an unnamed, senior Obama administration official told the Politico.com news site that the president had simply been observing protocol.

"I think that those who try to politicize those things are just way, way, way off base," the official told Politico.

"I don't think anybody who was in Japan -- who saw his speech and the reaction to it, certainly those who witnessed his bilateral meetings there -- would say anything other than that he enhanced both the position and the status of the US, relative to Japan," Politico wrote.

"It was a good, positive visit at an important time, because there's a lot going on in Japan."



freaking idiots... it is a sign of respect to bow NOT submission!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091116/pl ... usdiplomacyasiaobama

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They're right. This is America! "We used to make steel in this country!"
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PostPosted: November 16th, 2009, 4:36 pm 
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A bow in this circumstance is like a hand shake when you meet someone formally. Are you trying to say that America shouldn't respect other ethnicities?

Either way, its stupid to make such a big deal out of a bow. Can't imagine, for example, the Emperor going to a "foreign" country and shaking their leader's hand thereby causing news stories similar to this. I say good on Obama, in the long run he'll gain lots of respect if he keeps it up.

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PostPosted: November 16th, 2009, 4:40 pm 
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What a pack of morons. I don't even like Obama but you don't make diplomatic relations with other countries by being ignorant and rude. You're in there country you follow there traditions and ways. Arrogance gets you no where.

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Kind of annoying how big deals are made out of so trivial things.

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the president has hastened America's decline as a world superpower by being too apologetic and too deferential in his dealings with other world leaders

Oh yeah, I'm sure that's it.


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Guy on Digg wrote:
]OH MY GOD!
OBAMA IS BEING RESPECTFUL OF ANOTHER CULTURES WAYS!!

IT'S COMMUNISM!
No wait.. SOCIALISM!!
FACISM!!! maybe?

People who think that Obama is destroying our country by showing respect are idiots.

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These guys need to stop sucking their own ***** and get some culture in them.

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What a pack of morons. I don't even like Obama but you don't make diplomatic relations with other countries by being ignorant and rude. You're in there country you follow there traditions and ways. Arrogance gets you no where.


i agree. if the japanese emp. was in america id think he'd shake oboma's hand. Though something inside of me would have thought the empororer would have bowed back to obama while he was in china. Their both leaders of countries. they should greet each other equally

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Earth271072 wrote:
Guy on Digg wrote:
]OH MY GOD!
OBAMA IS BEING RESPECTFUL OF ANOTHER CULTURES WAYS!!

IT'S COMMUNISM!
No wait.. SOCIALISM!!
FACISM!!! maybe?

People who think that Obama is destroying our country by showing respect are idiots.


Pretty sure that Guy on Digg was making a joke about republicans who stupidly think that Obama is Communist and Fascist all at once, apologizes if you knew that.

Article: extremely dumb and it's sad that there are those who would think otherwise.

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PostPosted: November 21st, 2009, 7:14 pm 
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colinsoccer123 wrote:
Earth271072 wrote:
Guy on Digg wrote:
]OH MY GOD!
OBAMA IS BEING RESPECTFUL OF ANOTHER CULTURES WAYS!!

IT'S COMMUNISM!
No wait.. SOCIALISM!!
FACISM!!! maybe?

People who think that Obama is destroying our country by showing respect are idiots.


Pretty sure that Guy on Digg was making a joke about republicans who stupidly think that Obama is Communist and Fascist all at once, apologizes if you knew that.

I'm pretty sure that was obvious :P

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 Post subject: Re: obama takes a bow
PostPosted: November 27th, 2009, 3:21 pm 
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I think Obama was just showing respect for japan so they didn't start WW3

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