Do you support homosexual?

Look, what is going on with your friend sucks, sure. But we're not saying it's his fault. If anything I feel sorry for *** people. They can't "willingly" change themselves, considering the consensus on this forum is that it is a psychological defect (bad word, I know, but I can't think of another way to word it.). Homosexuality is a choice made by the subconscious, not an actual choice made by the person. The brain itself thinks it's ***, but there could be a way in the future to tell the brain "No, sorry. You're wrong." and then the *** people would actually be able to move on in their life and be happy without hiding from society or being banished from it.

It stinks that gays are sociological outcasts, but until there is a way to stop them from being *** they have to choose Uncomfortable "love", or to have a limited social life.

Your naivety, though charming, prevents you from disassociating personal prejudices from reality. I can counter this first argument by telling you that my homosexual neighbours (who have been together longer than I've been alive) don't mind publicly sucking face with the companions they invite over to their home. If we were carrying out this debate based on our own personal experiences, then I can counter your initial argument with some of my own. However, I prefer to use factual information when alleging that homosexuals, as a majority, are less likely to remain loyal in steady relationships.


If you would please reread what I wrote: "Why do we get married? Well, marriage is the act of choosing your partner for life and possibly having children with them." I'm pretty certain that the word "possibly" is more than enough of an indication that I didn't argue that people "get married to have children". In the United States, a little less than half of married couples have a child under the age of 18 living at home. While there's no way to actually quantify people's intentions in marriage, it's safe to say that giving birth is an eventual consequence for many.

It's also important to note that governments encourage marriage in expectation that the couples will reproduce. In Germany, there were adverts of mums holding adorable little babies to encourage women to settle down and mate. Tax breaks for married couples, certain benefits, etc exist to create a conducive situation for creating a child. As homosexuals have 0% chance of impregnating a partner of the same ***, it's absolute nonsense that they should receive the benefit of legal marriage that is given to heterosexuals.


As I stated above, I never said that couples married with the sole intention of bearing children. People who cannot have children often choose to provide loving homes to children without parents of their own. Or they seek scientific help for infertility.


In the beginning of your message, you ask me to provide statistics to back up my claims--which I did. Now, by the end, you're refuting the value of any such statistics. Please rethink your argument. What sense is there in carrying out a debate whose foundation lies on personal experience? What if I had bad personal experiences with blonde-haired people, would I (by your logic) be correct in saying something like, "Because all the blonde people I've known are *******, cheaters, and fakes, they are--without question--bad individuals"?

Hint: Then answer is no.


I'm not really sure which arguments you mean. Most white supremacists alleged that interracial marriages "muddied" one's gene pool. At our essence, we are all man or woman--regardless of race. Reproduction is a biological imperative no matter what skin colour you are. No matter how hard you try, homosexuality is an anomaly where one not only chooses not to have children, but is physically attracted to those of their own ***.


Sadly, your 'one size fits all' comparison to racial discrimination isn't relevant. Societies define themselves by their culture which, among several things includes: religion, language, customs, literature, music, et cetera. Without a united identity, nations tend to fall apart. Americans have spoken out against *** marriage, as blatantly seen in California. Are you saying that governments should go against the wishes of the greater population to pander toward a minority of individuals who lead an unnatural lifestyle? By all means, I don't believe that homosexuals should be jailed or physically harmed, but the legislation they're demanding is not rightly theirs to have.


That's humourous, considering you prefaced your reply with calling me ignorant. I'm all for strangers having the right to be happy, yet I'm not the type of person to indulge every minority of a population with their own definition of "happy".

I'm sorry that you feel that way. I was addressing your argument in its entirety rather than selecting parts of it to skew to my own perspective, as you had done with my own words.

This whole "don't force your views on other people" argument is so tiring, Veggie Eater. You know what "views that are forced on people" are called? Laws. While it's admirable that you're the forum's champion for *** rights, I've repeatedly given my reasoning as to why legal marriage should not be expanded to homosexuals. In return, you've generated a bunch of non sequiturs comparing my viewpoints to that of a racist amongst other things. We can continue this back-and-forth about who's more ignorant, but I think you win out in a contest of nonsensical accusations.

Without sounding too high and mighty, I can't help but think that your views are a result of not living within society long enough to understand that people have a right to exercise their belief in what's best for community and country. This immature rhetoric about "letting people do whatever they want" because "it's not harming you" is basically telling people that they should not participate in society if they have a differing viewpoint than your own.

As I've laid out in my two arguments above: because of the vast differences between heterosexual and homosexual couples, granting marriage to gays almost a sham, regardless of the warm and mushy feelings they may have toward each other.

I've given reasons, statistics, even personal perspectives in my posts. All you've really contributed in return are vapid, backwards statements that look like you wrote them out of anger rather than reason. I'm quite positive that I'm not an elitist, racist, or egoist, but your name-calling and wild assertions are still a little funny.

Really? Because my friend and I couldn't stop laughing while writing the last reply.

And I really love how I'm supposedly "name-calling". I thought what you said was ignorant. I never said you were racist, you're the one that suggested that so maybe that's something you need to deal with by yourself.

You've given logic that couples who decide to get married want to stay monogamous and have children. *** people have the ability to do that too.. So many people cheat on one another, not just *** people, so using your logic, no one should get married anymore.

And just because you are dealing with emotional problems because your virgin eyes can't see two men kissing next door doesn't mean you should be dealing out your loathing to other strangers. Why not do something more productive, or maybe go see a therapist.

Am I for ***'s? no, but I have no problem. If it makes them happy so be it. I dont feel anyone has the right to tell two, legally aged people, they cant be together.

I'm starting to think that the phrase "two minds are better than one" is no longer true.


Again, Veggie Eater, please read my posts. We cannot have a proper debate if you're incorrectly reading what I have to say. I never said "want" to, I said that they are more likely to. As in, there is a significantly higher number of heterosexuals that choose to stay monogamous and have children than those who do not. This isn't my own "reasoning" or "logic". This is the result of US census findings amongst other statistics that I've posted.


I like how you re-tell my own story to include me shuddering in FEAR because my VIRGIN EYES supposedly can't handle the sight of two men kissing. I wrote that story as example to my own personal experience of seeing married men be unfaithful, since that was the angle you were taking with this argument. As for the rather underhanded comment about my "emotional problems", I'm pretty sure it's obvious in my replies that I've show a considerable lack of emotion for the topic of homosexuality. I haven't "dealt out" any "loathing" to strangers (that I know of). I've properly, politely stated my opinions on here and backed them up. Which is a lot more than you have done.

I'm bored with arguing with you, Veggie Eater. It's obvious that you cannot hold a civil conversation with someone who disagrees with you, so maybe you should yield the floor to someone who can.

Alright, Mushroom Queen, I'm done.

Most of my friends are *** so it does bother me when someone that doesn't even know them can say they think they're 'unnatural'.

It's more of a fact that you'll go out of your way to say that it's very wrong rather than just be passive and not care what others do as long as it does not involve yourself.

I think that's what's really bothering me.

I can understand if a ******** was hitting on you and you were offended, but it's not affecting you so I guess I don't see why you care so much. It just bothers me that you'll hate on people you don't even know. You're just judging them and putting them into a stereotype.

I kept promising myself I wouldn't post anything in here because I knew I would end up doing this because I cannot stand people that are against *** rights, but I was just really shocked at how you could so easily decide millions of people shouldn't have the right to marry the ones they love just because it doesn't fit into your ideal world.

Reply to this if you want, I'm not going to reply back. You can have the satisfaction of "winning" so by all means go right on ahead.

We're both stubborn, this is going no where, I'm done.

I'm not against it but I don't really care about that stuff. Some of my family members are ***/******** but that doesn't mean I hate them. One of my best friends is bisexual but that doesn't mean I hate her. Seriously, I think we should all get a grip because it doesn't really matter.