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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
PostPosted: November 25th, 2008, 7:14 am 
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Christian or not, when giving blood, you give the government the "ok" to have your DNA, and other information about you.
My vote is no, I'll keep my blood to myself.
Plus, what if I got AIDS from a needle, or some other disease?


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PostPosted: November 25th, 2008, 7:14 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
PostPosted: November 25th, 2008, 7:34 am 
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You should have said if Jesus can get crucified on a cross to die for our sins, he can get perked by a needle to save a life. It's not like he's getting 3 8inch nails in him.

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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
PostPosted: November 25th, 2008, 8:40 am 
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It's not as if everyone in the world needs blood. I mean, not being selfish or anything, but there are plenty of people willing to give as much as they need.

And you know, he may just be scared of getting an IV. I was terrified the first time I got a needle in the crook of my arm, but once I started, it wasn't so bad.

Either way, I can't give blood. If the laws stay the same, if I go to England, I can't give blood to other people who haven't been/lived in England because of the risk of spreading Mad Cow Disease. o.O


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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
PostPosted: November 25th, 2008, 9:23 am 
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It's not as if everyone in the world needs blood. I mean, not being selfish or anything, but there are plenty of people willing to give as much as they need.

And you know, he may just be scared of getting an IV. I was terrified the first time I got a needle in the crook of my arm, but once I started, it wasn't so bad.

Either way, I can't give blood. If the laws stay the same, if I go to England, I can't give blood to other people who haven't been/lived in England because of the risk of spreading Mad Cow Disease. o.O


Theirs not actually, people tend to take it for granted a bit to much tbh.

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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
PostPosted: November 25th, 2008, 9:53 am 
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I'm giving blood on Wednesday (first time) since I thought you had to be 18. But it's only 17 here apparently. I don't see why anyone wouldn't give blood because I don't believe there is any legitimate reason not to, who cares if the government has your DNA. If you're not planning on battering any ones head in or committing some kind of massive robbery there is nothing they can do with it to use against you. I actually support the idea of a national DNA database. It'd help catching criminals a lot faster, and it poses the age old question; if you have nothing to hide, then what are you afraid of?

The notion that you might contract some kind of nasty disease from giving blood is also BS. It's rather the opposite way around here, you have to answer a whole series of questions on a form before they'll even let you give blood. And I had to call someone and answer a whole lot more questions because I'd left the country in the past 12 months. They're so concerned with whether your blood is acceptable they're not going to mess up on simple hygenics and use unsterilized equipment are they?

This whole situation to me is the same as organ donation. I don't see why people wouldn't carry an organ donor card. If you die and your organs could be used to help other people who are suffering why the **** wouldn't you? You're not going to need them are you? So many relatives get sentimental over corpses. In all honestly I believe when you die your cadaver should become property of the state because burying them in the dirt or burning them to ashes is just a dam waste when they could be used to help people who need it. If you believe your morality is more important than helping others. You have your priorities wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
PostPosted: November 25th, 2008, 10:19 am 
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The notion that you might contract some kind of nasty disease from giving blood is also BS. It's rather the opposite way around here, you have to answer a whole series of questions on a form before they'll even let you give blood.


I remember last year when students were giving blood at my highschool they had to answer questions such if they had recent sexual contact with a Mexican. :roll: They really want to make sure you don't have any diseases or anything, but even after the survey and questions, they still test the blood. There's absolutely no way you're gonna contract a disease from giving blood.

I agree with you, it's really stupid not to give blood or be an organ donor. Neither ever affects you in any way (giving blood takes, what, 5 minutes?) and you can potentially save a life. I'm sure if you were in the hospital and needed blood you'd love someone's donated blood, so why not return the favour?


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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
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The notion that you might contract some kind of nasty disease from giving blood is also BS. It's rather the opposite way around here, you have to answer a whole series of questions on a form before they'll even let you give blood.


I remember last year when students were giving blood at my highschool they had to answer questions such if they had recent sexual contact with a Mexican. :roll: They really want to make sure you don't have any diseases or anything, but even after the survey and questions, they still test the blood. There's absolutely no way you're gonna contract a disease from giving blood.

I agree with you, it's really stupid not to give blood or be an organ donor. Neither ever affects you in any way (giving blood takes, what, 5 minutes?) and you can potentially save a life. I'm sure if you were in the hospital and needed blood you'd love someone's donated blood, so why not return the favour?


Some of the questions on the form I had to fill in were like:

Have you had *** with a man in the past 12 months? (with or without a condom)
Have you ever been paid for ***?
Have you ever paid for *** with someone?
Have you ever had *** with someone whom you believe may have been HIV positive or had Hepatitis?
Have you ever had *** with someone whom you believe may have been paid for *** in the past?

There was a good 20 odd questions like that.

I'm betting if your answer was 'yes' to any of them they'd say 'no thank you'.

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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
PostPosted: November 25th, 2008, 11:06 am 
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I would give blood, and i'm all for saving people. Whether it be economically or literally "life" saving. I'd be glad to help. However, I can't give blood. I just can't. I'm a hemophobe. It sucks. Whenever I start to bleed I get light headed and usually pass out after like 30 seconds. lol, when they tested me for mono they were like "Don't worry, this is quick and nobody has ever thrown up or passed out. You're fine!" Yeah, there's a first time for everything ;) I passed out after they pricked my finger. Oh joy. Nothing like waking up on the floor of your local doctor's office being told "You passed out". Why do they tell you that after you wake up? I mean honestly?! If i'm waking up on the floor of somewhere I was just standing I'm automatically going to assume I passed out. It's not like I wake up and ask "did the aliens come for me again?"

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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
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They wouldn't let me even if I did want to give blood. Can't give blood for something like 6 month after getting tattooed.

But I do have an organ donor card, and I probably will give blood at some point in the future, the buggers are probably after my blood like vampires, since I'm AB+.

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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
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They wouldn't let me even if I did want to give blood. Can't give blood for something like 6 month after getting tattooed.

But I do have an organ donor card, and I probably will give blood at some point in the future, the buggers are probably after my blood like vampires, since I'm AB+.

They want you're blood so bad it would make Edward Cullen look human.

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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
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There is only one way he could have an STD and that is
Spoiler for dunno, just thought it would be bad for little kids to know:

rape

Christians normally wait until they're married for you-know-what.


Lol what the heck?
Trust me, I know, he didn't wait until marriage.

He's always talking about 'saving' people, he's given the chance, he refuses it.
He's also always saying how people should live their lives like Jesus would. If Jesus died for the entire human race for their sins, don't you think he would gladly donate blood if given the chance?

Which is why I came to the conclusion:
He's hypocritical.

Ignorant, yes. But also hypocritical.

Again, I was extremely annoyed when I wrote this, I'm over it now.


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Kirby wrote:
There is only one way he could have an STD and that is
Spoiler for dunno, just thought it would be bad for little kids to know:

rape

Christians normally wait until they're married for you-know-what.


Lol what the heck?
Trust me, I know, he didn't wait until marriage.

He's always talking about 'saving' people, he's given the chance, he refuses it.
He's also always saying how people should live their lives like Jesus would. If Jesus died for the entire human race for their sins, don't you think he would gladly donate blood if given the chance?

Which is why I came to the conclusion:
He's hypocritical.

Ignorant, yes. But also hypocritical.

Again, I was extremely annoyed when I wrote this, I'm over it now.


That's the same for all religion though. :?

I'm not bashing religions but theres so many rules, so many guidelines..no one follows it 110%, hell the majority of "Christians" don't go to church, Don't actually do anything they just claim to be christian and in this day n age that's acceptable, if it wasn't it wouldn't be as popular as it is now because people are just to busy and just don't care enough.

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Zac Glenn wrote:
Christian or not, when giving blood, you give the government the "ok" to have your DNA, and other information about you.
My vote is no, I'll keep my blood to myself.
Plus, what if I got AIDS from a needle, or some other disease?


wow, if the government wants your blood or DNA, they'll get it. they can get DNA from hair, so i hope you dont have a brush,comb or any lose hairs. hope you wash your forks spoons and cups right after you done with them, see my point? if the government wants to know about you. they well. and when they take blood they use brand new needles and tubes that are still in the pack when you come in, no one else has touched them, so you cant get AIDs or any of that crap.



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It's not as if everyone in the world needs blood. I mean, not being selfish or anything, but there are plenty of people willing to give as much as they need.


not true, matter of fact here in the U.S. there's not enough blood so if someone comes to the hospt and has a lot of blood lose they can only give them so much before they have to stop, to save blood for other people. if more people gave blood, more people could live after suffering major blood lose.


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This whole situation to me is the same as organ donation. I don't see why people wouldn't carry an organ donor card. If you die and your organs could be used to help other people who are suffering why the **** wouldn't you? You're not going to need them are you? So many relatives get sentimental over corpses. In all honestly I believe when you die your cadaver should become property of the state because burying them in the dirt or burning them to ashes is just a dam waste when they could be used to help people who need it. If you believe your morality is more important than helping others. You have your priorities wrong.



i agree 100%...

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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
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As a Christian, let me clear some things up for ya guys.

Al3X wrote:
Did you consider there may be a reason he can't give blood? He may have an STD or blood disease, in which case they would not allow him to give blood. He could've possibly said that he just "doesn't want to" rather than admit to one of the previously mentioned.

There is only one way he could have an STD and that is
Spoiler for dunno, just thought it would be bad for little kids to know:

rape

Christians normally wait until they're married for you-know-what.


Nice job now tell that to tons of kids at my school. Go explain to the Christian stoners that illicit drugs arent used in the bible either.

Unless they are, in which case imma hide and you guys can forget I said that. :lol:


Also, I remember reading somewhere there is a very very slight chance you can be born with an STD, but it's not very common. Im going to go look it up somewhere.

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Kirby you may want to look at this, rape isnt the only way to be infected:


Spoiler for For mature stuff.:

It is possible to have been born with a STD (STI) no matter what your gender, things such as Gonnrea, HIV, AIDS, Syphillis can be passed from the mother to the child either in pregnancy or childbirth. Its a good idea to be tested, weither you are a virgin or have had *** before

Source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_a_guy_be_born_with_an_STD


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 Post subject: Re: Hypocrital Christians
PostPosted: November 26th, 2008, 1:41 pm 
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Kirby wrote:
There is only one way he could have an STD and that is
Spoiler for dunno, just thought it would be bad for little kids to know:

rape

Christians normally wait until they're married for you-know-what.

That's only the hardcore christians who wait and you can get stds from eating food, going to nail salons, walking on a beach, swimming in water and touching other people's blood.

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