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 Post subject: Re: Fixes to jagexs mess.
PostPosted: December 14th, 2007, 6:09 am 
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Limiting our trades:
If you're going to do this then let us LEND items, for a day, a week, something like that. And if they die with it, then it's gone forever. They can't however trade it.

About that, i was thinking;

Every item that goes over 3k trade gap in trade is considered as "Borrowed" item. Say, if you gave someone Dragon Boots, they would be "Borrowed Dragon Boots" and examining it tells who it was borrowed from. The point is that these items cannot be sold, dropped or traded to another person than the person you got it from. They also are "worth" more than any other item, so if you die with them, you keep them. Except in Bounty Hunter, where you can't access at all with borrowed items. (Note that you can't have more than three borrowed items at the same time)

The point about is that you can use them. It can't be anything that can be used and made into something else (fishing, smithing, etc.) but if it's something like a partyhat, you can wear it around.

Also, in the trade screen when you borrow items, after accepting trade comes up a screen to ask you how long time you can borrow it for. Options are eternity, meaning you get it back when the player gives it back, 1 day, 2 days, 3 days, week, month, or you can specify it yourself.

In the end of lending time the item automatically comes into bank, where you can then collect it.


I like that idea. It would have it's own right click option right?

>Walk Here
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Read the whole thing. I said that it would be borrowed automatically in trade if it goes over the 3k trade gap.

But yeah, that would work too.


Meh, just to save confusion I guess. You might still get noobs spamming you asking to borrow something, so you'd be able to turn that Off or Friends only.

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 Post subject: Re: Fixes to jagexs mess.
PostPosted: December 14th, 2007, 6:17 am 
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I thought of another solution that is for food.
Jagex limited all items to 3k but items like Food (lobsters, monks and sharks) would have a free limit up to 26 of that food. And you couldnt trade more food for free for 15 min. Same for other cheap stackeble items like feather, arrows etc...

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 Post subject: Re: Fixes to jagexs mess.
PostPosted: December 15th, 2007, 5:36 pm 
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If you didn't lose the borrowed items when you died, there would be no risk ways to fight. You could borrow full Verac's to fight the Kalphite Queen, or Guthan's for slayer tasks all without spending a penny and no possibility of losing anything.


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 Post subject: Re: Fixes to jagexs mess.
PostPosted: December 15th, 2007, 9:47 pm 
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i would comment but there's simply nothing to say, your ideas are a bit flawed creepy, but overall great, they are none more flawed then Jagex's latest

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 Post subject: Re: Fixes to jagexs mess.
PostPosted: December 16th, 2007, 8:41 am 
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matthewda93 wrote:
If you didn't lose the borrowed items when you died, there would be no risk ways to fight. You could borrow full Verac's to fight the Kalphite Queen, or Guthan's for slayer tasks all without spending a penny and no possibility of losing anything.


With the new gravestones it's not exactly hard to keep your items upon death anyway. But we've already covered the drop thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Fixes to jagexs mess.
PostPosted: December 16th, 2007, 12:27 pm 
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yea i never pked and neve will but i hate that there no no pking. the reasoning behind this is becuz now stuff that i did for money is not gone. fish and food prices are plummeting and pot sales are decreasing so yea. its bad really for everyone whether u pk or not. i do like the idea of lending however. maybe that could be incorperated into enabling us to still get laws and nats via companies.

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 Post subject: Re: Fixes to jagexs mess.
PostPosted: December 16th, 2007, 12:34 pm 
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Slimppu wrote:
CreepyPirate wrote:
Limiting our trades:
If you're going to do this then let us LEND items, for a day, a week, something like that. And if they die with it, then it's gone forever. They can't however trade it.

About that, i was thinking;

Every item that goes over 3k trade gap in trade is considered as "Borrowed" item. Say, if you gave someone Dragon Boots, they would be "Borrowed Dragon Boots" and examining it tells who it was borrowed from. The point is that these items cannot be sold, dropped or traded to another person than the person you got it from. They also are "worth" more than any other item, so if you die with them, you keep them. Except in Bounty Hunter, where you can't access at all with borrowed items. (Note that you can't have more than three borrowed items at the same time)

The point about is that you can use them. It can't be anything that can be used and made into something else (fishing, smithing, etc.) but if it's something like a partyhat, you can wear it around.

Also, in the trade screen when you borrow items, after accepting trade comes up a screen to ask you how long time you can borrow it for. Options are eternity, meaning you get it back when the player gives it back, 1 day, 2 days, 3 days, week, month, or you can specify it yourself.

In the end of lending time the item automatically comes into bank, where you can then collect it.


I like this idea. =D> Have you presented it on forums yet? I am not sure how much code they would have to add to the game and all, but I like it. I truely believe with the flak Jagex took over this 3k cap crap, they have to be formulating something different. Let's hope so anyways. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Fixes to jagexs mess.
PostPosted: December 17th, 2007, 6:15 am 
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matthewda93 wrote:
If you didn't lose the borrowed items when you died, there would be no risk ways to fight. You could borrow full Verac's to fight the Kalphite Queen, or Guthan's for slayer tasks all without spending a penny and no possibility of losing anything.

You could not have more than three borrowed items.

I love it how people spend time on reading things. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Fixes to jagexs mess.
PostPosted: December 17th, 2007, 1:14 pm 
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Slimppu wrote:
matthewda93 wrote:
If you didn't lose the borrowed items when you died, there would be no risk ways to fight. You could borrow full Verac's to fight the Kalphite Queen, or Guthan's for slayer tasks all without spending a penny and no possibility of losing anything.

You could not have more than three borrowed items.

I love it how people spend time on reading things. :roll:


Didn't catch the 3 item part.


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 Post subject: Re: Fixes to jagexs mess.
PostPosted: December 17th, 2007, 10:09 pm 
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Well, it seem Jagex does listen to the rants and is making some adjustment to the recent changes. Hopefully they will continue to make these adjustment to improve the game

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 Post subject: Re: Fixes to jagexs mess.
PostPosted: December 18th, 2007, 7:35 pm 
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Drop Party - POH Party Room is a better idea
Loan Items - Seem like Jagex heard you. You can loan item for the time both player are log on
Lending skills - agree that we should be allow to do other activities. Otherwise, I dont want to stand still doing nothin for even 5 mins.

What about giving gifts to friends or family. There was a suggestion about creating a group of friend (something along the line of clan) and you can trade freely among these friends. Of course , certain conditions must be set up to prevent bots from entering such friend group easily. Like months of player or cartain lvl of skills not related to bots money earning skill, like construction or farming or prayer

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