The Ultimate Question: Star Wars or Star Trek?

Mike · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 7:48 am

I voted for Star Wars, although I wouldn't call myself a fan of it. I just like it better than star trek.

I would call most of Shane's arguments invalid because a lot of them aren't really reasons why it's better :oops:

You can come up with better ones than that, put them here though, I don't want to hear about it on msn or when I talk to you. It's been many years, you aren't going to get me to watch more star trek now, you can stop trying to make me watch it.

Adbot · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 7:48 am

Daniel · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 11:43 am

Star Wars.

Siths can shoot out lightning. End of

Shane · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 12:33 pm

I can see my first point was proven here:
- They were first. The way I and a few of my other Star Trek counterparts see it is that Star Wars wanted the success of Star Trek. Basically Star Wars is just a fancy pop culturafied version of Star Trek.

The pop cultarafiedness is no doubt the reason the poll is 15-8 in favour of star wars now. I encourage anyone who hasn't watched an episode to watch one. Even PM me if you want a good recommendation.

Anyways I'm done fighting for this topic, you star wars people are all the same -_-

Slimppu · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 12:42 pm

Shane wrote:

The way I and a few of my other Star Trek counterparts see it is that Star Wars wanted the success of Star Trek.

And they got it. Success, that is.

That "pop cultarafiedness" just happens to be more popular (and alot better) than Star Trek. Beat it.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 2:06 pm

Shane wrote:

I can see my first point was proven here:
- They were first. The way I and a few of my other Star Trek counterparts see it is that Star Wars wanted the success of Star Trek. Basically Star Wars is just a fancy pop culturafied version of Star Trek.

The pop cultarafiedness is no doubt the reason the poll is 15-8 in favour of star wars now. I encourage anyone who hasn't watched an episode to watch one. Even PM me if you want a good recommendation.

Anyways I'm done fighting for this topic, you star wars people are all the same -_-

That would be true Shane if it wasn't for the fact the star wars universe and all those within it are nothing like the star trek universe.

Doesn't look like either has copied the only thing they really have in common is space travel.

Ohh burned.

Evelyn · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 2:12 pm

I voted Star Wars.

I like Star Wars.

Adbot · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 2:12 pm

Mushroom Queen · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 2:15 pm

CreepyPirate wrote:

Shane wrote:

I can see my first point was proven here:
- They were first. The way I and a few of my other Star Trek counterparts see it is that Star Wars wanted the success of Star Trek. Basically Star Wars is just a fancy pop culturafied version of Star Trek.

The pop cultarafiedness is no doubt the reason the poll is 15-8 in favour of star wars now. I encourage anyone who hasn't watched an episode to watch one. Even PM me if you want a good recommendation.

Anyways I'm done fighting for this topic, you star wars people are all the same -_-

That would be true Shane if it wasn't for the fact the star wars universe and all those within it are nothing like the star trek universe.

Star Trek has far more interesting species as well as planets. Honestly, :oops:

I see Star Wars as something made so that 9 year olds can be entertained. Star Trek has far more innovating storylines and their scientific theories are absolutely interesting to think about. I think that the main reason why many people don't like Star Trek is because they're not entertained unless they're seeing Jar Jar Binks make coo-ing noises at them like a mother does to an infant.

Ryan · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 2:27 pm

I think Star Wars is better than Star Trek.

Reason = Star Wars became more popular than Star Trek, making video games, models, and a series of extremely gripping movies that are just ready to suck you into a black hole

Fangda · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 2:29 pm

Star Trek sucks.

Star Wars sucks a wee bit less.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 2:30 pm

Mushroom Queen wrote:

Star Trek has far more interesting species as well as planets. Honestly, :oops:

I see Star Wars as something made so that 9 year olds can be entertained. Star Trek has far more innovating storylines and their scientific theories are absolutely interesting to think about. I think that the main reason why many people don't like Star Trek is because they're not entertained unless they're seeing Jar Jar Binks make coo-ing noises at them like a mother does to an infant.

Oh? Little Queen of the trekkies wants to step up and prove her nerdyness does she?! Ohh it's so on. I'm gunna be EXTREMEE now and break your text up into chunks. :O

Mushroom Queen wrote:

Star Trek has far more interesting species as well as planets. Honestly, :oops:

How interesting can a planet be in a what? 45 minute time slot? The planets, there history, all of that usually gets left out. Hell, even the species on the planet usually get shunted, you learn the bare minimum about them and it goes back to the same usual star trek regulers of which there's only usually about 5-8 or so that you really get to know.

Compared to the massive films? the books, comics, the mass fan base? I'd say the star wars world is far more interesting compared to the star trek. If you care to argue that one, i really suggest you look up the reviews for the star wars films and the star trek. It's the only fair basis we can make isn't it?

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I see Star Wars as something made so that 9 year olds can be entertained. Star Trek has far more innovating storylines and their scientific theories are absolutely interesting to think about.

If you want "scientific theories" you watch a Scientific program, not a Sci-Fi show. While star trek crams made up words, made up "scientific theorys" that you couldn't possibly understand (because there not real, lol. Honestly whenever they come up with a plan who understands wtf there talking about? Although usually there "creative" storys comes down to shooting something with a not-so-epic space fight. XD).

The great thing about star wars is that you can compare it to todays world, in many ways it's like todays world. It has a perfect combination of Sci-Fi crap but it also has enough stuff that you can relate to in this day and age that you can at least understand what there talking about or be able to relate to something, it helps you get so much more into the world that there trying to create.

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I think that the main reason why many people don't like Star Trek is because they're not entertained unless they're seeing Jar Jar Binks make coo-ing noises at them like a mother does to an infant.

Confirms you've never sat down and watched a star wars film properly, because everyone who has knows jar jar binks isn't amusing, he is infact the most annoying character ever created. No one likes him.

There for, anything you happen to say about star wars can't hold up, cause you've never taken the time to even try and get involved in the world Georgy has created for us.

BURN MY LITTLE TREKKIE

edit: I win, MQ just goes on to argue and ignores everything else. Silly trekkies, can't face up to the truth.

Slimppu · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 2:40 pm

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Trekkies, go there and browse for a few hours. D'you think that a series created for '9 years old' would create so much material for 50,000 articles? No, i don't think so.

Mushroom Queen · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 3:03 pm

Slimppu wrote:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Trekkies, go there and browse for a few hours. D'you think that a series created for '9 years old' would create so much material for 50,000 articles? No, i don't think so.

Irrelevant. I've seen all of the films, I suggest you watch a full series of Star Trek (I'd suggest Star Trek Enterprise) I've yet to find any of the storylines for Star Wars to be compelling.

If you want the only good review of Revenge of the Sith, you should probably check out The Best Page in the Universe's. It's somewhere down the main page of the site. "Star Wars Episode III: a steaming pile of Sith". You can't miss it.

Slimppu · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 3:21 pm

Mushroom Queen wrote:

Slimppu wrote:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Trekkies, go there and browse for a few hours. D'you think that a series created for '9 years old' would create so much material for 50,000 articles? No, i don't think so.

Irrelevant. I've seen all of the films, I suggest you watch a full series of Star Trek (I'd suggest Star Trek Enterprise) I've yet to find any of the storylines for Star Wars to be compelling.

If you want the only good review of Revenge of the Sith, you should probably check out The Best Page in the Universe's. It's somewhere down the main page of the site. "Star Wars Episode III: a steaming pile of Sith". You can't miss it.

I can't imagine "Bunch of people commanding a ship" any better than "Jedi knights, force, clone armies, wars". Just, no.

"Star Wars" is its own universe with all the tiny information pieces. Movies are just a little part of it.

Star Trek is informationless TV show with pretty much nothing interesting happening IMO.

Mushroom Queen · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 3:38 pm

Slimppu wrote:

Mushroom Queen wrote:

Slimppu wrote:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Trekkies, go there and browse for a few hours. D'you think that a series created for '9 years old' would create so much material for 50,000 articles? No, i don't think so.

Irrelevant. I've seen all of the films, I suggest you watch a full series of Star Trek (I'd suggest Star Trek Enterprise) I've yet to find any of the storylines for Star Wars to be compelling.

If you want the only good review of Revenge of the Sith, you should probably check out The Best Page in the Universe's. It's somewhere down the main page of the site. "Star Wars Episode III: a steaming pile of Sith". You can't miss it.

I can't imagine "Bunch of people commanding a ship" any better than "Jedi knights, force, clone armies, wars". Just, no.

"Star Wars" is its own universe with all the tiny information pieces. Movies are just a little part of it.

Star Trek is informationless TV show with pretty much nothing interesting happening IMO.

You can describe almost any plot in a way that sounds uninteresting. What if I said that Star Wars was just about "some pizza-faced boy [Hayden Christensen] tries to defeat evil, BUT ENDS UP JOINING IT"..how interesting does that sound? Or that "LUKE FINDS OUT THAT HIS TRUE ENEMY IS REALLY HIS FATHER". Wow, good one. Star Trek can take a simple story line ("a bunch of people commanding a ship") and make it interesting and complex, but also entertaining. I don't see any of that happening in Star Wars. I don't feel like I've thought differently about the world after watching a Star Wars film (though that could be because of the bad acting).

Star Trek was innovative in applying real-world problems into their show. Racism? Star Trek played a leading role in casting a black female in the original series. The Soviets? Star Trek casted a Russian crewmember. Women played major roles rather than just being ornaments like in the James Bond films. The only thing that Star Wars has done correctly was to feed off Star Trek's ideas and water them down with baby-ish aliens who mostly exist to serve some comedic purpose. Star Trek's casts were groundbreaking, as well as their stories.

Slimppu · **Posted:** August 4th, 2007, 3:57 pm

Mushroom Queen wrote:

You can describe almost any plot in a way that sounds uninteresting. What if I said that Star Wars was just about "some pizza-faced boy [Hayden Christensen] tries to defeat evil, BUT ENDS UP JOINING IT"..how interesting does that sound? Or that "LUKE FINDS OUT THAT HIS TRUE ENEMY IS REALLY HIS FATHER". Wow, good one. Star Trek can take a simple story line ("a bunch of people commanding a ship") and make it interesting and complex, but also entertaining. I don't see any of that happening in Star Wars. I don't feel like I've thought differently about the world after watching a Star Wars film (though that could be because of the bad acting).

Star Trek was innovative in applying real-world problems into their show. Racism? Star Trek played a leading role in casting a black female in the original series. The Soviets? Star Trek casted a Russian crewmember. Women played major roles rather than just being ornaments like in the James Bond films. The only thing that Star Wars has done correctly was to feed off Star Trek's ideas and water them down with baby-ish aliens who mostly exist to serve some comedic purpose. Star Trek's casts were groundbreaking, as well as their stories.

Most people like dramating and fascinating stories instead of simple stories. Star Wars has one, strong storyline with its dramatic changes, like turning into dark side and finding out relative stuff. And when it comes together with nice acting, the result can't simply be uninteresting, especially if you find "HAY LET'S GO TRAVEL SPACE" interesting.

And talk about "Good cast." If it's "racism" not to hire black females and Russians, uh, i won't say anything and go laugh in a corner. Star Wars has some great actors like Christopher Lee and Harrison Ford, which sure in hell i can't find as "Bad acting", like you said earlier.