Guns, guns, guns.....

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 12:22 am

czskrazzi wrote:

CreepyPirate wrote:

Guns get used in big big criminal going on's. I don't need to worry about one coming in my house, i don't need to feel like i have to own a gun incase a burglar comes in, like you. Because it simply will not happen.

If you believe that saying that makes you feel safer, then ok thats how you feel. But in any house, anyone can break in, unless of course your a millionare with thousands invested in security. Just remember, theres always the chance someone can break in, and can hurt or kill you. I'm sure all the students at VA tech school felt very safe before what happened, imagine how they feel now? Pure example of what "can" happen.

You're not getting it, gun crime is pretty none existant here, even if someone WANTED to break in my house and shoot me they'd have one hell of a time getting ahold of a gun. Ask anyone from England, they'll tell you gun crime is pretty none existant, you rarely ever hear about it. Knifes are a bigger problem here than guns.

I don't say it to feel safe, i KNOW it. You worry about people coming in your house and shooting you. You feel the need to arm yourself to protect yourself. How **** up must a country be for it's own citizens to feel like they have to protect themselves? Is the gun problem really that big an issue there that you all have to equip your own guns cause there is so much trouble and the police are so useless?

I'd not even live in a place where i feel unsafe, simple as that. It may be a huge problem there but don't make the mistake of thinking it's like that everywhere, that's what you people aren't getting - it's not. Banning guns does work it's just a very long term process. Which, i dunno about you but i'd prefer that as to having to live scared of someone coming in my house and shooting me, lol.

Adbot · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 12:22 am

Alex · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 1:33 am

CreepyPirate wrote:

Ask anyone from England, they'll tell you gun crime is pretty none existant, you rarely ever hear about it. Knifes are a bigger problem here than guns.

Basically what I said.

Alex wrote:

We don't have much gun violence in the Uk, its all about knives.

Alot of teanagers who were in gangs have been murdered over the past couple of months.

Pat · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 1:42 am

A criminal will more like be armed if they know their target is armed.

Evelyn · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 10:04 am

Well, the US is a pretty big country, population-wise and land area-wise, and where I live it's pretty sprawled out, so It might take a while for any police to come.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 10:07 am

Cliff Dude wrote:

Well, the US is a pretty big country, population-wise and land area-wise, and where I live it's pretty sprawled out, so It might take a while for any police to come.

That may be the case but why on earth would you even confront a gun man? That's not a bright idea in my eyes.

Also if guns had been banned 50 years ago, chances are someone breaking into your house wouldn't even have a gun, they'd not be as easy to get as they are right now.

Evelyn · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 10:13 am

It wouldn't be a good idea to walk up to a gunman, you take him out stealitly.

Adbot · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 10:13 am

Ryan · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 10:37 am

As Creepy and Alex have said, its more about knives in the UK.

IMO, Guns should be banned unless they are being used in sport, as your less likely to die in sport than in a break-in.

Defending your self with firearms against another person with firearms is just a load of *******'s, why provide more guns around the country, just as a result of a rampaging massacre. I am really sorry for all the lost lives and I do understand people need more protection, but what is giving an 18 year old chav a gun to protect himself going to do? He's gonna end up shooting anyone who walks past him.

Pat · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 10:42 am

Cliff Dude wrote:

It wouldn't be a good idea to walk up to a gunman, you take him out stealitly.

Thank you for that information! I'm sure it will come in handy when I go to Ninja School. =)

If guns are banned, there will still be guns on the black market. But what Creepy said is true, the amount of gun crime would probably decrease. However, the amount of criminals will not necessarily be affected. Then without guns, what are they going to turn to? Knives, explosives, etc. Will that be worse than guns? We'll have people threatening to suicide bomb people's houses for their stuff. Then not only will there be more danger, but the average citizen will not be able to defend themselves.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 10:47 am

thorny wrote:

Cliff Dude wrote:

It wouldn't be a good idea to walk up to a gunman, you take him out stealitly.

Thank you for that information! I'm sure it will come in handy when I go to Ninja School. =)

If guns are banned, there will still be guns on the black market. But what Creepy said is true, the amount of gun crime would probably decrease. However, the amount of criminals will not necessarily be affected. Then without guns, what are they going to turn to? Knives, explosives, etc. Will that be worse than guns? We'll have people threatening to suicide bomb people's houses for their stuff. Then not only will there be more danger, but the average citizen will not be able to defend themselves.

I don't think people would threaten to blow themselves up, a person using a gun is doing it so they can get what they want and get away FREE and ALIVE. Blowing himself up is going to do exactly what him owning a gun was meant to avoid. XD

Knife crime would probably go up instead, sure. I can run my *** away from a guy with a knife and again, majority of the time there not out to hurt anyone and to the point, you can't massacre 30 odd people in a school with a knife, well, at least not as easily as you could with a gun.

The risk is a lot lower, i'd rather come face to face with a knife carrier over a gun carrier. And they'd hardly be defenceless either, knifes are all over the house! Problem solved!1!1

Gontcha · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 2:04 pm

Make life condition good, punish lazy people who will not get a job (you always can get a job). If you get everyone happy, why the need in guns?

Brad · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 2:20 pm

Brandt wrote:

Creepy ,one thing you dont know as being British is, that it is in every Americans mind the we are free.

I just want to say, I love how most Americans assume that everybody outside their country is completely ignorant of everything that involves America.

On the subject of gun control. Yes they should be banned. But In America banning guns would do nothing. They already have so many.

Iron Maiden · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 3:44 pm

In Texas, Guns are 100% legal. And guess what ? It is THE country with the LESS crimes! Why ? Because everyone has a gun.

Im still wondering why in country like America guns are legal but its has lot of crimes.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 3:46 pm

Maiden wrote:

In Texas, Guns are 100% legal. And guess what ? It is THE country with the LESS crimes! Why ? Because everyone has a gun.

Im still wondering why in country like America guns are legal but its has lot of crimes.

if ya could prove that the crime being lower is due to everyone owning a gun that'd be great. I don't buy it myself.

Iron Maiden · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 3:59 pm

I dont have a clearly evidence, But if you want, you can chek, Its one of the country with a very low crime. If everyone has a gun, No one will to come to make a ''Hold-Up'' , because everyone will shoot at the Theif. Hope you understand what I mean lol.

In my country, It's really hard to get a gun, This is probally a reason why the crimes are higher there. Noobs are getting guns for ''Hold-Uping'' and for ''Home Invasion'' . In Canada, Crimes are lower than in America. Crimes in America are probally due at the fact that everyone can get a gun VERY easly.

Jay · **Posted:** April 22nd, 2007, 6:16 pm

CreepyPirate wrote:

czskrazzi wrote:

Ok I want to say a few things here, and I don't care if my opinion isn't liked.

I'm going to rant a little here about guns..

Guns are not bad, but they are not good, plain and simple, there is no other truth to that.

A gun is soooo easy to get in america, you have to be 21, have a valid I.D. (license etc), and not charged with any felony's etc. There may be more but I'm not sure of anything else.. So the point to that is, they are a little to easy to get access too.

Gun violence, this will always happen no matter what, this is truth, nothing else. If there is a law passed in the U.S. that bans civilians from owning guns, do you really think that will stop or reduce killings by guns?. NO!. It will not!. Criminals and other people like that will always have access to weapons, knowing that most people wont have a gun to protect themselves, crime would actually increase.

It was said by some recently, to arm more people with guns? What the hell is wrong with people? More guns = more death, more violence.

Look ill get to the point, you cannot ban guns, you can't arm more people with guns, those will both increase crime, and deaths. Either way, nothing will change, people will always have guns, there will always be violence and killings by guns, innocent will die. The unfortunate truth about our human nature.

Well yes, it will. It's been proven it does, look at every country that has banned guns. Looking long term, more and more guns being removed from the flow it'll become harder and harder to get one and yes, ok, you might get organized criminals still using guns but you WONT get phycho school students doing it, because they don't have the means of getting a gun anymore.

You're right, you can't stop gun crime you could however greatly reduce it if it wasn't for this BS "I HAVE TEH RIGHT TO DEFEND MYSELF@@" crap.

I don't know if this has been said before, as I have not read this whole topic, but most of the shootings are by people with illegally obtained guns.
Physcho people will still manage to get guns illegally, therefore, banning guns will not stop most shootings.
And @ Maiden,

Maiden wrote:

In Texas, Guns are 100% legal. And guess what ? It is THE country with the LESS crimes! Why ? Because everyone has a gun.

Im still wondering why in country like America guns are legal but its has lot of crimes.

-.- Texas is not a country, it is a US state.