Worst school shooting in U.S. history...

Brandt · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 6:08 am

Here, I'll say this. That amendment was written right after our Revolution, along with the 3rd, 4th, etc up to 10. These were to protect our civil rights. At the time, that amendment was the best. Unfortunantly, being the "Land of the Free" that we are, that includes the freedom to protect ourself. Even if america banned guns, in 50 or 100 years there would still be gun crime. Some of the items the US have banned over 100 years ago are still popping up alot around here. Because it has been engrained into every american that we live in the Land of the Free (its in our national anthem), we are free. We have supreme court cases that are resulting in the cancellation of laws because they inhibit some freedom quite often.

Also, most countries dont have the almost total freedom that the US has

With over 200 years of being around, we've actually done quite well...no dark ages, no plauges, no huge genocides or massacres, nor have we even been the cause of a genocide directly (not counting the Rwandan Massacre in 1994, since that was a UN decision, not a US one)

Adbot · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 6:08 am

fiann · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 9:14 am

never mind.... I rethought my original post.... best just to say: lets all take a moment to pray for the families of the victims.

Ryan · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 11:33 am

I've been reading everything I can about this massacre, I've watched every news flash, read every newspaper I could get my hands on and have checked every news website. I do feel sorry for EVERYONE who was involved in this, including the suicidal maniack. He obviously needed to be cared for properly, even the teachers thought he was weird. That or his brain is a pile of crap.

Im also researching the US laws to see if there is any way possible to prevent gun crimes in America, even thought there probably isnt xD

Chi Meng · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 1:21 pm

Ryan wrote:

I've been reading everything I can about this massacre, I've watched every news flash, read every newspaper I could get my hands on and have checked every news website. I do feel sorry for EVERYONE who was involved in this, including the suicidal maniack. He obviously needed to be cared for properly, even the teachers thought he was weird. That or his brain is a pile of crap.

Im also researching the US laws to see if there is any way possible to prevent gun crimes in America, even thought there probably isnt xD

There is no way. Even if you banned guns, there will still be gun crimes. Take a look at Washington DC. Handguns are banned there, yet they still have one of the highest crime rates in the United States.

I think to prevent this kind of thing from happening, people have to start caring for each other more.. I mean yeah the guy was weird.. but was anyone doing anything about it? From what i've read, it doesn't look like he had any friends.. He was a loner. IF someone would of talked to him or something.. maybe he wouldn't of done this.

Rune Beast0 · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 2:08 pm

Agent Waffles wrote:

Kronic wrote:

Agent Waffles wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence

Almost all of the top countries have a history of instability, why is America right up there?

It could just be the media, but I never hear of massacres outside of America.

Alright, but look at the list.

#8. America, population of 301,529,000
#21. Germany, population of 82,310,000
#26. Australia, population of 20,804,00
#28 Spain, population of 44,708,964
#30 New Zealand, population of 4,165,600

So population is a big determining factor in gun violence, with the exception of countries in civil war. America has many more citizens, meaning more gun violence. If Germany, Australia, or any other country had the sheer population that America has, they would have just as many.

Once again just to insist on the point that it isn't the country, it's a small percentage of people that affect the way others view the country.

Population shouldn't be a determining factor.

If you take a group of 1,000,000 people, a few will be psychos. Take a group of 10,000,000 people, and you have more psychos.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 2:12 pm

Rune Beast0 wrote:

Agent Waffles wrote:

Kronic wrote:

Agent Waffles wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence

Almost all of the top countries have a history of instability, why is America right up there?

It could just be the media, but I never hear of massacres outside of America.

Alright, but look at the list.

#8. America, population of 301,529,000
#21. Germany, population of 82,310,000
#26. Australia, population of 20,804,00
#28 Spain, population of 44,708,964
#30 New Zealand, population of 4,165,600

So population is a big determining factor in gun violence, with the exception of countries in civil war. America has many more citizens, meaning more gun violence. If Germany, Australia, or any other country had the sheer population that America has, they would have just as many.

Once again just to insist on the point that it isn't the country, it's a small percentage of people that affect the way others view the country.

Population shouldn't be a determining factor.

If you take a group of 1,000,000 people, a few will be psychos. Take a group of 10,000,000 people, and you have more psychos.

You can't prove that. XD the 1,000,000 people could be perfectly fine, normal people.

Adbot · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 2:12 pm

Ranging God · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 2:26 pm

CreepyPirate wrote:

Rune Beast0 wrote:

Agent Waffles wrote:

Kronic wrote:

Agent Waffles wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence

Almost all of the top countries have a history of instability, why is America right up there?

It could just be the media, but I never hear of massacres outside of America.

Alright, but look at the list.

#8. America, population of 301,529,000
#21. Germany, population of 82,310,000
#26. Australia, population of 20,804,00
#28 Spain, population of 44,708,964
#30 New Zealand, population of 4,165,600

So population is a big determining factor in gun violence, with the exception of countries in civil war. America has many more citizens, meaning more gun violence. If Germany, Australia, or any other country had the sheer population that America has, they would have just as many.

Once again just to insist on the point that it isn't the country, it's a small percentage of people that affect the way others view the country.

Population shouldn't be a determining factor.

If you take a group of 1,000,000 people, a few will be psychos. Take a group of 10,000,000 people, and you have more psychos.

You can't prove that. XD the 1,000,000 people could be perfectly fine, normal people.

But the chances of there being more crazy people is a lot more likely.
Anyways this is sad, I get mad when you people who are about to start there life's get killed by someone kills them. They dident have any power over if they would die or not...

Also, the reasons that you only hear about massacres in America (well, if you watch a lot of world news you will hear about other countries) is because the world LOVES making fun of America right now. it is the cool thing to do. Find as many faults as you can about America.

Jeff · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 8:28 pm

Quote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence

Almost all of the top countries have a history of instability, why is America right up there?

It could just be the media, but I never hear of massacres outside of America.

That's probably because you haven't payed much attention to international news, not just US. news. Or maybe you haven't researched much?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_sho ... _shootings

Once again, there are several cases where freedom to possess guns legally is an advantage, but only the disadvantages are presented. There is really no guarantee that banning guns will help.

The Haysta · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 8:34 pm

I never said I wanted to ban guns, I really can't think of a viable solution to this.

Anyway, New Zealanders get really good international unbiased news coverage since nothing much happens here.

Chi Meng · **Posted:** April 19th, 2007, 12:52 pm

The problem is not guns here.. Its society. I believe Cho was a victim of American Society (no offense, but mostly white society). America needs to CHANGE.

The Killer · **Posted:** April 20th, 2007, 7:11 am

So I read the wiki about him, imo he seemed like an attention ***** with an appetite for destruction.

He even compared himself to Jesus, for gods sake. "I did it for them!"

Chi Meng wrote:

The problem is not guns here.. Its society. I believe Cho was a victim of American Society (no offense, but mostly white society). America needs to CHANGE.

+1

Mr Pink · **Posted:** April 20th, 2007, 10:27 am

Victim of American Society? No way, that guy was already koo-koo from the beginning.

They keep on saying everybody was making fun of him and always bullying him around and how he was rejected of his lack of English?
Well guess what, I been through the same maybe even worse and he is just being a p**** about it and trying to blame something for the horrible crime only a complete maniac would commit.

Mushroom Queen · **Posted:** April 20th, 2007, 1:09 pm

Kill3rz wrote:

So I read the wiki about him, imo he seemed like an attention ***** with an appetite for destruction.

He even compared himself to Jesus, for gods sake. "I did it for them!"

Chi Meng wrote:

The problem is not guns here.. Its society. I believe Cho was a victim of American Society (no offense, but mostly white society). America needs to CHANGE.

+1

He's not a victim of white society. He's a victim of being a complete nut. So he hated rich people, what of it? I hate rich people and I don't walk around shooting up classrooms of innocent people. If you want to lay blame on someone, go ahead, but don't accuse an entire race of being responsible for this.

Rapidash · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 8:15 am

http://www.richmondtimesdispatch.com/se ... 3350872081

ryan1 · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 9:39 am

The Beatles wrote:

Oh well no offence usa Spec Ops, cops suck....look in one of vid a fat cop running and thats, usa troops, spec ops should be trained to storm to building no matter what not waiting outside for hours.

They could not get inside. The gunman chained the doors shut.
And if you are not talking about this incident then you really have me confused