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PostPosted: January 7th, 2007, 4:48 pm 
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In America you have to be 18 to vote.
In America you have to be 21 to drink.
In America you have to be 18 to smoke.
In America you have to be 18 to go to war.

Do you think it is far that you have to be 18 to do all these thing, but you have to be 21 to drink? It has been scientifically proven that red wine helps prevent heart disease. Smoking on the other hand does not have a single good benefit.
Voting I think is at a good age. War I think is at a ridiculously low age. If you are old enough to go to war and die, then why cant you drink, that is some cases help you live longer??? In most countries the drinking age is 16, or they don't have any. Also in some countries they can drink while at eh dinner table with parents.

What do you think the law should be in America. I personally think it should be 15, and if you are in the company of you gaurdia, or immediate older family member (21 or older)

Please don't be immature. And don't go off saying that America sucks and such or I will ask a Mod to lock.

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If you drink before your body is fully grown it is proven to destroy brain cells. IMO i think US's law it more thought out.

EDIT:http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/9416.html

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That does seem a little stupid, the worst thing is available at a earlier age...like saying "Here, this will make you die faster." "Oh! Thanks man!"

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Thats weird. You can smoke at 18 but you cant drink at 18. I think its should be 18 to drink. But I think its should be Illegal to smoke and drink cause its only cause problems and sometimes its can cause the death.

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Going to war is 17 now, you can enlist with a parents consent at 17. I think the drinking age needs to lowered to 18, if i can go off and fight my country i should be legally able to drink. Changing the laws wont effect much, teens will drink or smoke whether or not the government makes it legally.

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Going to war is 17 now, you can enlist with a parents consent at 17. I think the drinking age needs to lowered to 18, if i can go off and fight my country i should be legally able to drink. Changing the laws wont effect much, teens will drink or smoke whether or not the government makes it legally.


yeah, but I am talking about the average responsible family.

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Voting age should be 16...
Drinking age 16...
Smoking age 60...
War should be 17...

Thats my opinion, lol.


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Smoking should be illegal.

Driving age?


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Agent Waffles wrote:
Driving age?


Driving age is fine at 15 to begin, and 16 to get your license. Changing the driving age to 18, which has been being considered here in California, would be bad. Not only would it make parents have to cart their children around an extra 2 years, but it would hurt the car company economy, as well as the gas company.

I think smoking should be illegal. I truly see no benifit in it at all. All you are doing is spending thousands of dollars a year on cigarettes, which are only making you become more and more unhealthy over time. Also, second hand smoking is making non smokers unhealthy. It smells horrible too.

Voting age is fine at 18. By 18, you are legally considered an adult and should be able to have a say in where your country is going. A voting age any lower would not be a good idea because I believe a vast amount of people that are 16 and 17 would not be mature enough to vote. They would either not really care about who is running, or they would not know all the current political events to base their vote on, which could lead to someone getting the spot that would not be as good as another person.

Drinking age is fine at 21. I would hate to see it lower, even though it would allow me to drink. Already having the driving age at 16, it would make the DUI charges pointless, and some teenagers would be stupid enough to leave the bar drunk and drive off a cliff.

Going to war should be your choice. I think 17 or 18 is ok for that, but you should not be required to do so. If there was ever a draft here and the government came after me to fight in the war, I am moving up to Canada in a second.


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Americas driving age is FAR to young imo, so is Englands.

I believe you should be 18+ to drive, at the very least. A child should not be trusted behind the wheel of a machine that can kill someone.

As for drinking, no..21 is fine. 18 works here in England, you get retards that will drink themselves stupid yes but they'll do that even with age limits in place.

21 is a wise choice, Alcohol can be addictive and damaging if not drunk sensibly, getting yourself drunk (like a 15 year old would do. XD) is not a smart idea.

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Nmr7 wrote:
Voting age should be 16...
Drinking age 16...
Smoking age 60...
War should be 17...

Thats my opinion, lol.


Voting age at 16 is unacceptable for me. 18 is really fine as it is. Just from personal experience, in my high school, which is fairly competitive, most of the people vote for things base on "popularity". That's not how you do it in the real world. And at 16, most of the people are probably still a dependent, and are very easy to be influenced.

I personally think all the age limit are fine as it is. They are there to protect you anyways.

Also, about the driving age, which varies from state to state, I think when you are applying for a license when underage, you need to have real evidence that you are driving for work or school purposes and not to party with friends. Take me for example, if the driving age was at 18, I can't drive until after six months of my college freshman year.

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I get annoyed when I hear the commonly said "point" that "If someone can die for their country, they should be allowed to drink!"

Those two aren't comparable in the sense that the drinking age was raised because of crime and accident rates that were alcohol-related. The military is a different issue. The age for joining the military is 18 because at that age, a child becomes an adult and is allowed to make that commitment to a career.

I can guarantee you that if the drinking age were to be lowered to 18, young people would not be drinking red wine to live longer. In fact, I hate to shoot your argument down, but:
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Many studies investigated the benefits of red wine suggested that moderate amount of red wine (one drink a day for women and two drinks a day for men) lowers the risk of heart attack for people in middle age by ~ 30 to 50 percent.

It makes no difference to anyone younger

I could argue that the drinking age should be raised to 25 as that's when the brain fully develops its judgment and reasoning areas.

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I get annoyed when I hear the commonly said "point" that "If someone can die for their country, they should be allowed to drink!"

Those two aren't comparable in the sense that the drinking age was raised because of crime and accident rates that were alcohol-related. The military is a different issue. The age for joining the military is 18 because at that age, a child becomes an adult and is allowed to make that commitment to a career.

I can guarantee you that if the drinking age were to be lowered to 18, young people would not be drinking red wine to live longer. In fact, I hate to shoot your argument down, but:
HealthCastle.com wrote:
Many studies investigated the benefits of red wine suggested that moderate amount of red wine (one drink a day for women and two drinks a day for men) lowers the risk of heart attack for people in middle age by ~ 30 to 50 percent.

It makes no difference to anyone younger

I could argue that the drinking age should be raised to 25 as that's when the brain fully develops its judgment and reasoning areas.


First off I am not making a comparison. I am just saying that some of the unhealthy things and other adult stuff in my opinion are unbalanced.
I did not put this correctly in my first post so let me rephrase what I mean.
I don't think that children 15 should be able to go off and buy beer or alcohol. But I DO think that they should be able to consume small quantities at a time with a responsible adult.
So I am no way saying that teen's should get drunk or get wasted.

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Age limits dont make that much a difference if people still sell alcohol and cigaretts to kids under the age limit.

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I get annoyed when I hear the commonly said "point" that "If someone can die for their country, they should be allowed to drink!"

Those two aren't comparable in the sense that the drinking age was raised because of crime and accident rates that were alcohol-related. The military is a different issue. The age for joining the military is 18 because at that age, a child becomes an adult and is allowed to make that commitment to a career.

I can guarantee you that if the drinking age were to be lowered to 18, young people would not be drinking red wine to live longer. In fact, I hate to shoot your argument down, but:
HealthCastle.com wrote:
Many studies investigated the benefits of red wine suggested that moderate amount of red wine (one drink a day for women and two drinks a day for men) lowers the risk of heart attack for people in middle age by ~ 30 to 50 percent.

It makes no difference to anyone younger

I could argue that the drinking age should be raised to 25 as that's when the brain fully develops its judgment and reasoning areas.


First off I am not making a comparison. I am just saying that some of the unhealthy things and other adult stuff in my opinion are unbalanced.
I did not put this correctly in my first post so let me rephrase what I mean.
I don't think that children 15 should be able to go off and buy beer or alcohol. But I DO think that they should be able to consume small quantities at a time with a responsible adult.
So I am no way saying that teen's should get drunk or get wasted.

Usually, you're making a comparison if you're saying "If you are old enough to go to war and die, then why cant you drink, that is some cases help you live longer?" I see what you mean about balance..but I really think that some things (like cigarettes and drinking) should be brought in gradually. As for having a glass of alcohol at dinner with parents, this is where law gets in the way of parental choice.

Let's say that a parent allowed their child to have a glass of wine each time they went out for dinner. If this family were to eat out three times a week, the child would be consuming alcohol three times a week. This could be potentially harmful to a child since there's really no limit to how much the child is allowed to consume with parents if they eat out x number of times a week. There really can't be a law made that says, "Children are now allowed to drink at a restaurant with their parents as long as the parent is responsible". What exactly defines responsible? Because of this, it's better safe than sorry.

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