Feds Shut Down MegaUpload

Duke Juker · RSBandB Donor since 07/01/2010

It's not about if you pirate, but if others use a service like MegaUpload to pirate. Ever heard the phrase "One rotten apple spoils the whole barrel?" Regardless of how you or millions of others may use an online sharing service, a few misuses by others ruins it for everyone else. The MPAA and RIAA aren't trying to govern you...only to govern the use of their own product and materials. And if you don't pirate, then I fail to see how you could be so mad or how this legislation would greatly affect you since it is namely aimed at piracy.

I do hope you consume more often then you say, otherwise you'd probably be dead from starvation or dehydration.

Adbot · **Posted:** January 22nd, 2012, 5:28 pm

Warren · **Posted:** January 22nd, 2012, 6:49 pm

So if the MPAA had some sort of service and then someone else starts up a similar service should they be able to get it shut down temporarily for an investigation based on a claim they make without any evidence? Has to be taken seriously after all. Not saying that it shouldn't be investigated whether the majority of use is illegal or whether they make a sufficient effort to filter stuff but I dunno why you have to shut it down for that investigation. But I don't think it was shut down for an investigation anyways I dunno.

I don't think you should have to hire a bunch of people to moderate whats put up and stuff if you wanted to start a file hosting website though unless you're making lots of money.

Shane · **Posted:** January 22nd, 2012, 9:12 pm

Warren wrote:

So if the MPAA had some sort of service and then someone else starts up a similar service should they be able to get it shut down temporarily for an investigation based on a claim they make without any evidence? Has to be taken seriously after all. Not saying that it shouldn't be investigated whether the majority of use is illegal or whether they make a sufficient effort to filter stuff but I dunno why you have to shut it down for that investigation. But I don't think it was shut down for an investigation anyways I dunno.

I don't think you should have to hire a bunch of people to moderate whats put up and stuff if you wanted to start a file hosting website though unless you're making lots of money.

It's a computer, that's why it needs to be shut down. With a few commands I could do a basic delete of an entire file system. With a few more commands I could do a more thorough delete that would make the data almost impossible to recover. Essentially they don't want the files that were offending to magically disappear.

Warren · **Posted:** January 22nd, 2012, 9:46 pm

Is it not possible to temporarily suspend changes to a site without taking it down? I guess then they'd be responsible for the activity of the site from that point on but that shouldn't be a problem since the expectation was that the owners do a good enough job filtering themselves. Talking generally not saying MegaUpload made any effort to filter since I wouldn't know. In terms of an evidenceless claim of a party with lots of bias too - not saying that it's the case since I wouldn't know (the no evidence part not the bias part), just what I read here.

Ring · **Posted:** January 23rd, 2012, 4:28 pm

Shane wrote:

Warren wrote:

So if the MPAA had some sort of service and then someone else starts up a similar service should they be able to get it shut down temporarily for an investigation based on a claim they make without any evidence? Has to be taken seriously after all. Not saying that it shouldn't be investigated whether the majority of use is illegal or whether they make a sufficient effort to filter stuff but I dunno why you have to shut it down for that investigation. But I don't think it was shut down for an investigation anyways I dunno.

I don't think you should have to hire a bunch of people to moderate whats put up and stuff if you wanted to start a file hosting website though unless you're making lots of money.

It's a computer, that's why it needs to be shut down. With a few commands I could do a basic delete of an entire file system. With a few more commands I could do a more thorough delete that would make the data almost impossible to recover. Essentially they don't want the files that were offending to magically disappear.

Yes, because the RIAA and the MPAA should /totally/ have the power to control peoples' lives.

Pfkninenines · Global Moderator 12/4/08

Some interesting insight on MegaUpload being shut down... https://plus.google.com/u/0/11131408935 ... 69/posts/HQJxDRiwAWq

+ http://torrentfreak.com/from-rogue-to-v ... d-kim-dotcom-111218/

Adbot · **Posted:** January 24th, 2012, 9:06 am

Bonsai99 · **Posted:** January 24th, 2012, 4:36 pm

Pfkninenines wrote:

Some interesting insight on MegaUpload being shut down... https://plus.google.com/u/0/11131408935 ... 69/posts/HQJxDRiwAWq

+ http://torrentfreak.com/from-rogue-to-v ... d-kim-dotcom-111218/

Just one more reason to call the MPAA and RIAA bad names.

Ring · **Posted:** January 24th, 2012, 5:42 pm

How about we all just begin paying "potential infringement" taxes to the RIAA. That way we won't have to worry about piracy, or human rights for that matter.

Evelyn · **Posted:** January 24th, 2012, 6:19 pm

If the RIAA is really in it for the money, they would just end up do that.

In fact they just might.

Pfkninenines · Global Moderator 12/4/08

Firering401 wrote:

How about we all just begin paying "potential infringement" taxes to the RIAA. That way we won't have to worry about piracy, or human rights for that matter.

Canada does that on their physical media I believe, so buying a spindle of CD-Rs technically allow you to download whatever you want.. I'm not sure on the specifics, but perhaps Shane, Mike, or another of the Canadians will chime in on that aspect.

Shane · **Posted:** January 25th, 2012, 1:31 pm

Pfkninenines wrote:

Firering401 wrote:

How about we all just begin paying "potential infringement" taxes to the RIAA. That way we won't have to worry about piracy, or human rights for that matter.

Canada does that on their physical media I believe, so buying a spindle of CD-Rs technically allow you to download whatever you want.. I'm not sure on the specifics, but perhaps Shane, Mike, or another of the Canadians will chime in on that aspect.

That's correct, that was basically a stop gap measure once the DMCA was passed in the US. You pay a small levy (don't even notice it) on recordable media and iPods. This essentially means that people don't get charged for downloading pirated content, not that it's a good thing to do. The only people who can really get charged here (now) are those that share massive amounts of content. Nothing really happens to torrent or limewire users (if they still exist).

Conservatives are due to re-introduce copyright law this spring. I hope the law will provide a definite stance on what piracy is in Canada.

Iron Maiden · **Posted:** January 26th, 2012, 9:52 am

I always wondered, is it only illegal to download copyrighted material if you intented to sell or share with people? OR illegal even if it's only for your personal use.

Personally, I do download. Just like everybody. But I have reasons. For exemple, if a show I like is released but there's no dubbed version, I just say ''**** it, I'd buy it if they had a french version, but I'll just download it''...But if there's a dub...I'll gladly buy it. For exemple, I bought 3 seasons of Dexter, cost me about 80 bucks. They were dubbed, they had a resonable price, fine I buy. And not second I said to myself «I just could download them, put them to DVD and save nearly 100 bucks». No way, I bought and enjoyed every minutes of it. No dub and overpriced? **** that, I'll buy it if you release a dubbed version or wait for your price to go down.
For music, well it's mostly because I'm poor haha. But I do intend to buy Records of my favorites album on ebay, in the future. And I'll make a nice wall of vinyls. yehhh awesome lol. So it's mostly like a very long term loan haha.

Besides, not only arabs are terrorists. If a group of people on the internet join the site of a dude that pretend to be a superhero and vow to eliminate every name listed as long as they're criminal...That's terrorism (I learned that from Dexter ROFL) I guess Street Gangs are pretty much the same. Well, whenever a group of person is involved into criminal activities, it's considered a form of terrorism.
That would explain why the Megaupload guy is treated like one of them.

I think (and I wish) that MU will be brought back to life and PRAY for it not to end the same way Napster did. (If you remember Napster, you're cool)

Warren · **Posted:** January 27th, 2012, 11:24 pm

Buying used is pretty much next in line of evilness to them anyway. If there was no piracy they'd probably be targeting that a lot more aggressively.

Estor · **Posted:** January 28th, 2012, 11:35 am

I never used MegaUpload but I find it ridiculous, you can't completely stop piracy. 'Nuff said