The current bullying problem

Ranging God · **Posted:** October 7th, 2010, 4:12 pm

I posted something on FaceBook today that crossed my mind after reading the new today. Here is what I posted so I dont need to retype it.

"My way of solving bullying. Instead of telling your kid to just take it, and be the bigger person and walk away,how about telling him to stand up for himself and not take being made fun of? Boost his self esteem.It just seems to me that a kid walking away from someone who always gives him **** will feel worse than a kid telling someone to to shut the hell up, even if he does get his *** kicked, at least he had the balls and confidence to stand up for himself"

See, if kids stood up for themselves, I think there would be less suicide and less school shootings. Emotions wouldnt get bottled up, and permanent metal damage due to harassment would be much less.

(facebook only lets you post so many characters as your status apparently haha)

So, my question is; Do you think parents and schools should teach kids to stand up for themselves?

(I now want to write a essay on this haha)

Adbot · **Posted:** October 7th, 2010, 4:12 pm

Warren · **Posted:** October 7th, 2010, 4:55 pm

Depends because some people really don't know how to stand up for themselves and sometimes the other person is crafty so they try to but fail and look like a fool.

I don't think it would reduce suicides and school shootings though. Stop pumping drugs into kids that don't work, that they don't need and are 10000x more dangerous than the drugs they are told never to think about by lies (lol cannabis at least, hard drugs probably more dangerous) and then maybe they wouldn't shoot up their schools.

But yeah definitely shouldn't be telling them to ignore it and stuff if it is constant ridicule. And provide actual help to them for dealing with it and devote attention to them.

Ice · Runite: 9/30/2010

I was just reading the article about Clementi again today too... I do agree, it ***** me off that these kids are just taking all the **** being thrown at them and then eventually jumping off a bridge or shooting themselves because they can't deal with. You're going to have to have skin as thick as freaking steel to put up with those jerks who get off on being ***** to other people.

The problem with the school system in America is that it feeds the brain and not the heart. There is not a single class at my school that teaches you how to be a better person. The teachers don't help the kid being shoved against the lockers. I read an article about a teacher actually assigned one of her students a seat in between two people who she knew was bullying that student.

They really should teach them to not take this **** lying down. I always say, "If you're letting them kick you, I'll kick you harder." in order to get someone to stand up for themselves. BUT we can't go too far otherwise we'll get kids bringing guns to school with the idea of shooting the people who are bullying them. Then we'll have another Virginia Tech on our hands.

Regnenth · **Posted:** October 7th, 2010, 5:57 pm

i think its an ok idea, but it depends on the kid. if you tell ur kid to stand up for himself/herself, then depending on the situation, they could end up going on a shooting spree as a way of standing up and ending the bullying (way out there case and worse case scenario, and as dragon said). i do however 100% agree with the parents needing to help boost their children's self-esteem part. a lot of the time, a child will have low self esteem and the parents won't do anything about it

hummerwar921 · **Posted:** October 7th, 2010, 6:34 pm

If you kill yourself because of some pussies talking **** over the internet, you didn't deserve to live in the first place.

Kids are weak-minded these days.

Duke Juker · RSBandB Donor since 07/01/2010

Bullying is somewhat hard to deal with. It depends on the situation and consequences of your actions. Bullying should be stopped as soon as it appears in the first place. If it isn't, kids need to be taught to go to their parents or teachers and tell them rather than just stay mumb about it. If kids let that out more often and told adults, I think you'd see bullying go down quite a bit. Same with rape and abuse of any kind. Getting people to talk about it and report it is difficult. The best thing to do is tell people it's alright to talk and that in order to recover and prevent it from happening to themselves and others, they need to talk and let someone know. That's really the best way to solve the issue, not always fighting it out.

Adbot · **Posted:** October 7th, 2010, 7:37 pm

Regnenth · **Posted:** October 7th, 2010, 7:44 pm

hummerwar921 wrote:

If you kill yourself because of some pussies talking **** over the internet, you didn't deserve to live in the first place.

Kids are weak-minded these days.

i dont think we're talking about cyber bullying so much as we are talking about in school bullying.

mathclub3 · **Posted:** October 7th, 2010, 7:50 pm

I didn't read anyone else's responses because I didn't want to be influenced, so sorry if I say something someone else said.
I digress..I honestly think that yes, kids should be taught to stick up for themselves, but they can't be stupid about it. Getting beat up because you say something to a bully doesn't help anything in my opinion. Wouldn't you think that they would get made fun of more because they got beat up? I think so. This may in turn make them have more pent up anger, which without talking to anyone could in fact lead to the same school shooting issues that happen. The real problem is ignorance. If people would treat people the same there would be no issues, obviously this can't happen, but we can always hope. The way I grew up was to be open minded about people and that serves me well in life, I'm friends with kids on the lacrosse team at my university, and I'm also a Computer Information Systems major there..so obviously they aren't interested in most of the things I am. Same thing in high school, you could call me a quasi-nerd but I was also friends with some of the cooler kids, but I was also great friends with the biggest geeks in school haha. I think to get people to understand each other they need to hang out with each other in a non threatening situation where they can relate. For instance get a CoD tourny going at your school, you know everyone will want to be involved. 2v2 would be perfect to match people who aren't friends. Video games bring people together like few things can. I've been all over the place in this but really what I'm trying to say is that it's up to parents to teach their kids to be good to each other if someone causes too much trouble then they should be removed or be given the choice to try to reform themselves.

Ice · Runite: 9/30/2010

Duke Juker wrote:

Bullying is somewhat hard to deal with. It depends on the situation and consequences of your actions. Bullying should be stopped as soon as it appears in the first place. If it isn't, kids need to be taught to go to their parents or teachers and tell them rather than just stay mumb about it. If kids let that out more often and told adults, I think you'd see bullying go down quite a bit. Same with rape and abuse of any kind. Getting people to talk about it and report it is difficult. The best thing to do is tell people it's alright to talk and that in order to recover and prevent it from happening to themselves and others, they need to talk and let someone know. That's really the best way to solve the issue, not always fighting it out.

True, but most of the time, especially with rape, talking about it is just like pouring salt over a wound.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** October 7th, 2010, 11:45 pm

Who the hell is teaching kids to "just take it"? That's a stupid thing to do.

It's simple enough. If there bigger than you then you need to plan it before hand. Have a brick or metal pole on hand because you need to smash his face in quick before he can hit back. If your bigger than him smack them in the nose.

This is good solid advice and any children about should follow it.

Iron Maiden · **Posted:** October 8th, 2010, 8:36 am

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+1

Respect comes with fear. If you beat the hell of a jerk, everybody else will respect you because they'll all be afraid of you.
I know it's bad to say, but Life isn't Disney or Fairy Tale. You don't always solve problems with Talking or trying to Ignore. I wish violence wasn't a solution, but hell, it's a **** good one.

They need to make a class about having a better self-esteem and ways of dealing with problems. Plus, Parents should tell their children that beating the hell of a bully isn't a bad thing if it's justified. That, as long as the kid can assume the responsability of his action.

Ice · Runite: 9/30/2010

Another news post on Yahoo! about bullying.

Quote:

Kids would flick him in the head or call him names, says 20-year-old Drew Juratovac, a former student. One time, a boy called Mohat a "homo," and Juratovac told him to leave Mohat alone.

"I got up and said, 'Listen, you better leave this kid alone. Just walk away,'" he says. "And I just hit him in the face. And I got suspended for it."

I hate when that happens. Too many times it's the person who does the right thing gets heat for it >_<

Regnenth · **Posted:** October 8th, 2010, 5:36 pm

i know, people only see what they want to see and dont want to be proven wrong, meaning if a kid stands up for someone else and gets in a fight, the administration doesnt care if they person was standing up to a bully

Pennstate315 · Runite Member 5-25-10

I think it's a great idea. Walking away seems like to the other person that you have given up

ryan1 · **Posted:** October 13th, 2010, 11:02 pm

This is an incredibly complicated issue, and can't simply be boiled down to 'fight back and stop being weak'. Sometimes when the kid fights back, the bully only gets worse (especially if the kid fails when he fights back). On the other hand, it's also a bad move to just take it. I think it very much depends on the situation. Some bullies need to be dealt with physically (give them a good beating and they'll back off), and others just need to be messed with psychologically. As an example, find out something embarrassing about them from someone who knows them well, and start bullying them for a change. You could probably get their parents to give you some dirt (who wants their kid to be a bully?). However, in both cases the kid who retaliates has a chance of becoming a bully him/herself.