U.S congressman demans iraqis to pay war debt

King Kulla · **Posted:** June 19th, 2011, 2:47 pm

Cliff Dude wrote:

Pennstate315 wrote:

Cliff Dude wrote:

American ignorance caused the terrorists to come in the first place, and the US economy is not as huge and important as you think.

Out economy is most important. We own the reserve currency known as the DOLLAR. If our dollar collapses bad news for everyone.

Which it did. The Canadian dollar is worth more. The Euro and Pound have been worth more for as long as I can remember.
I think AUS$ is above USD now too.

The Australian Dollar is even higher than the Canadian dollar.

Adbot · **Posted:** June 19th, 2011, 2:47 pm

Warren · **Posted:** June 19th, 2011, 7:02 pm

"That's like getting raped and then the rapist hands you a bill."

Pennstate315 · Runite Member 5-25-10

Warren wrote:

"That's like getting raped and then the rapist hands you a bill."

We did not "Rape" them. We suspected WMD's and moved in and removed a dictator in power and made Iraq more secure.

Evelyn · **Posted:** June 20th, 2011, 9:15 am

Pennstate315 wrote:

We did not "Rape" them. We suspected WMD's and moved in and removed a dictator in power and made Iraq more secure.

Even then it's still not the US's role to play "world police"

trekkie · **Posted:** June 20th, 2011, 9:30 am

Pennstate315 wrote:

Warren wrote:

"That's like getting raped and then the rapist hands you a bill."

We did not "Rape" them. We suspected WMD's and moved in and removed a dictator in power and made Iraq more secure.

before saddam, no suicide bombings.

after we remove... lots of suicides.

Pennstate315 · Runite Member 5-25-10

trekkie wrote:

Pennstate315 wrote:

Warren wrote:

"That's like getting raped and then the rapist hands you a bill."

We did not "Rape" them. We suspected WMD's and moved in and removed a dictator in power and made Iraq more secure.

before saddam, no suicide bombings.

after we remove... lots of suicides.

So you think we should of just allowed Saddam to do whatever he wants?

Adbot · **Posted:** June 20th, 2011, 2:30 pm

Evelyn · **Posted:** June 20th, 2011, 4:21 pm

Pennstate315 wrote:

So you think we should of just allowed Saddam to do whatever he wants?

It's his state. Did you forget about state sovereignty? He can do whatever he wants in his little sandbox, regardless of how appalling it is. It's when it starts to threaten other states should anybody intervene.

trekkie · **Posted:** June 20th, 2011, 5:01 pm

keep in mind penn.

we had desert storm, because they invaded another country where it threaten the supply of oil. we went in.

after we made sure that he wasn't a threat to oil, we left. then saddaam used biological weapons on the kurds to the north. bush said, o it's not important.

even **** cheney once said

1 Stone Pwn · **Posted:** June 20th, 2011, 5:20 pm

Pennstate315 wrote:

So you think we should of just allowed Saddam to do whatever he wants?

Yes. We don't need to go around playing cop for everybody. That's the UN's job. Besides, if people are going to ***** about spending and such, we should just tell them "you didn't say anything about it when we were cutting taxes and getting into wars".

Also, Desert Storm was a completely mostly different matter (it also had a lot to do with oil). It actually met the criteria of what is considered a "Just War" (although one of said criteria could be debated), while Iraqi Freedom did not.

Ranging God · **Posted:** June 20th, 2011, 11:34 pm

1 Stone Pwn wrote:

Pennstate315 wrote:

So you think we should of just allowed Saddam to do whatever he wants?

Yes. We don't need to go around playing cop for everybody. That's the UN's job. Besides, if people are going to ***** about spending and such, we should just tell them "you didn't say anything about it when we were cutting taxes and getting into wars".

Also, Desert Storm was a completely mostly different matter (it also had a lot to do with oil). It actually met the criteria of what is considered a "Just War" (although one of said criteria could be debated), while Iraqi Freedom did not.

Sad thing is the UN is a joke. Just uses US money and power to act like they care about matter, when in reality, its the US doing everything. Take the current problem in Lybia.... Almost all US money, and the other UN countries staying in the back. I do give Obama props for calling them out on it.

Evelyn · **Posted:** June 21st, 2011, 12:02 am

Money that the US doesn't have, and won't have for thousands of years, seeing the national debt.

Also, requote for good justice:

Cliff Dude wrote:

Pennstate315 wrote:

So you think we should of just allowed Saddam to do whatever he wants?

It's his state. Did you forget about state sovereignty? He can do whatever he wants in his little sandbox, regardless of how appalling it is. It's when it starts to threaten other states should anybody intervene.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** June 21st, 2011, 7:30 am

Ranging God wrote:

1 Stone Pwn wrote:

Pennstate315 wrote:

So you think we should of just allowed Saddam to do whatever he wants?

Yes. We don't need to go around playing cop for everybody. That's the UN's job. Besides, if people are going to ***** about spending and such, we should just tell them "you didn't say anything about it when we were cutting taxes and getting into wars".

Also, Desert Storm was a completely mostly different matter (it also had a lot to do with oil). It actually met the criteria of what is considered a "Just War" (although one of said criteria could be debated), while Iraqi Freedom did not.

Sad thing is the UN is a joke. Just uses US money and power to act like they care about matter, when in reality, its the US doing everything. Take the current problem in Lybia.... Almost all US money, and the other UN countries staying in the back. I do give Obama props for calling them out on it.

What? Last i heard the French was the first to act. Followed by the UK. The last report i got was the UK was sending apache helicopters over there as well. I've yet to hear bugger all on Americas involvement. I don't doubt you are involved but i very much doubt it's as great as you're making out.

There was a report the other day about the first innocent casualities being hit by UN missiles though. Was that yours by any chance?

The UK shouldn't even be there. Our military already faced budget cuts and we're bailing out half of Europe. And the wally that is in charge has effectively told our military chiefs to shut up. Way to ignore the people in the know Dave. *******.

1 Stone Pwn · **Posted:** June 21st, 2011, 7:39 am

Ranging God wrote:

Sad thing is the UN is a joke. Just uses US money and power to act like they care about matter, when in reality, its the US doing everything. Take the current problem in Lybia.... Almost all US money, and the other UN countries staying in the back. I do give Obama props for calling them out on it.

It is, but I think that's partially because the US likes to go off and do its own thing. Yes, it's inherently flawed, blah blah blah, but at least make an effort to do it with them. Otherwise, what's the point of even being there?

Duke Juker · RSBandB Donor since 07/01/2010

1 Stone Pwn wrote:

Ranging God wrote:

Sad thing is the UN is a joke. Just uses US money and power to act like they care about matter, when in reality, its the US doing everything. Take the current problem in Lybia.... Almost all US money, and the other UN countries staying in the back. I do give Obama props for calling them out on it.

It is, but I think that's partially because the US likes to go off and do its own thing. Yes, it's inherently flawed, blah blah blah, but at least make an effort to do it with them. Otherwise, what's the point of even being there?

There isn't one.

It's a hold over from post-WWII/pre-Cold War tensions. In my mind, it's just as pointless as NATO as well. And since most of it's resources are from the US, it's really just an extension of the US under the control of other countries.

You do make a good point, though. The US tends to go off and do things on its own. It does defeat the purpose of the UN. But the UN and most countries are often afraid to take the first step in doing anything, or if they take a first step, to make a huge first step. The US isn't afraid to go first and throw everything it has at a problem. You can argue if the action is the right or wrong, but at least they don't hesitate long or half-ass anything.

Pennstate315 · Runite Member 5-25-10

Cliff Dude wrote:

Pennstate315 wrote:

So you think we should of just allowed Saddam to do whatever he wants?

It's his state. Did you forget about state sovereignty? He can do whatever he wants in his little sandbox, regardless of how appalling it is. It's when it starts to threaten other states should anybody intervene.

We suspected him of WMD's that is threating US.