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 Post subject: Re: Bill Nye on Climate Change
PostPosted: February 20th, 2010, 2:41 pm 
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You can't expect people to do that, regardless of how climate change may sound or be presented. For one thing, it isn't economically profitable in some cases to, as people would term it, "go green." For example, you can't expect coal production and power to cease on a dime or to really decrease in any amount very quickly.


Well said, I think that sums up the issue nicely.

I don't deny climate change, it's quite clear that it's happening. There have been times in the Earth's past when the average temperature was warmer than what it is now. There have also been times when the CO2 concentrations have been higher, that's gone away too. We're an advanced species, we're at the point where we could easily survive if rapid climate change started happening.

It's not simple to just drop everything and go green. What's most often not realized are the economic ramifications of such a plan. What happens to the people who work in an energy sector right now? Better yet, what happens to the GDP of nations who solely depend on energy production for their economic welfare? They would tank sharply.

How would an individual relax if they were cut in the purging of dirty energy? How would an individual react if they were cut from the assembly lines at Ford to cut costs to research green initiatives? Overall I believe this would create a shock to the economy and potentially cause more trouble than the current credit recession.

At the end of the day, scientists are great. They know how to interpret their data and report the findings to us that are not involved in the scientific process. What they do not know is the intricasies of how intertwined the energy sector is into the economy and thus potential side effects of going green immediately.

So for those out there who say, "let's stop today" think about this and the potential problems it could cause.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Nye on Climate Change
PostPosted: February 21st, 2010, 7:10 pm 
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Perhaps if you knew that he only graduated from high school and never went on to college might affect the way you look at him.

Not really - I know that further education in an area relevant to the content of his show would strengthen his authority, but there are plenty of reasons to not continue your education past high school and I don't really think your view of someone should be reflected by their education level. From what I've seen from him at least, his lack of post secondary education doesn't isn't enough to ease what I think.

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Semi related to education level reflecting your intelligence: in Ontario we have these mandatory grade 10 tests you must pass to graduate that make sure you are 'literate'. So apparently it is easy enough to get through high school illiterate (and it's not like English is an optional course). Easy enough that it makes sense to spend a lotttt of education money on testing that isn't even conducted by a Canadian organization instead of something like ... actual education or something else that benefits schools? ... It is not even possible to fail the requirement of the test. If you fail in grade 10, you retake the test the next year. If you fail again, there is a course you take which you can't fail.
I'm not sure why the schools even make a big deal out of it, of all the practice that is done (even a year before the test), and ensuring nutrition by providing like orange juice and muffins during a short break in the middle of the test. It seemed to be the same stuff we did in grade 6... I am pretty sure one of the sections WAS a task I did in grade 6. Anyways, it is only shown whether you passed or not, not your exact mark, so I really didn't take it seriously. There were questions I didn't really feel like doing, so I just didn't, and some "...in 6-9 sentences, describe..." I only wrote a simple sentence. It is shown I successfully completed the test, though loool.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Nye on Climate Change
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2010, 12:36 am 
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I'd agree that education level isn't necessary, but it does help back up what a person says, which was the point I was trying to get across about Glenn Beck and that's why I said it might affect how you view him. As you've pointed out, education isn't necessary for talking on a topic, but I find it's usually preferred and/or better imo. Just a thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Nye on Climate Change
PostPosted: February 23rd, 2010, 2:52 am 
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Right. While it is completely economically infeasible to simply say "stop burning coal", things can be done to help make it better. New ways of burning coal can be developed that decrease the emissions. These should be programs that governments are in charge of. Businesses are in it for the money, and therefore can't really be bothered to develop cleaner technologies (unless it's a PR move on their part). However, if the government develops and releases the cleaner technologies, they should be allowed to mandate that companies shift to them over a certain time span.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Nye on Climate Change
PostPosted: February 24th, 2010, 3:44 pm 
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We watch Bill Nye like twice a month. :mrgreen:

I don't have much of an opinion on this though. Global warming is a fact though.

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