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PostPosted: November 11th, 2010, 11:32 am 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... r-Armistice-Day.html

What a pleasent thing to do. Our soldiers fought and died for freedom so these scumbags can stand about and do this. I've no idea how those policemen stand there and protect them. I'd have trouble not swinging at one. But that's the price of freedom.

It's sad that they have to abuse it this way they do themselves and the muslim population no favours acting this way.

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Send them back to their countries. Being a veteran of Iraq myself, I take it personally when I see things like this.

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 Post subject: Re: Remembrance day
PostPosted: November 11th, 2010, 4:10 pm 
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I know violence usually isn't the answer, but seriously, these guys deserved to die. Unfortunately that probably would've made them happy.

I hope they all got life sentences. People like this have no rights. They revoked any right to their 'rights' when they agreed to do something like this.

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 Post subject: Re: Remembrance day
PostPosted: November 11th, 2010, 11:09 pm 
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at least you don't have WBC. that group should be annihilated

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PostPosted: November 12th, 2010, 3:25 am 
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Isn't Freedom of Speech just so wonderful when it's "abused" like this? I mean, regardless of what they fought for, you have to admit veterans are some of the bravest and most courageous men of all, and many have no regrets about it either.

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 Post subject: Re: Remembrance day
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I know violence usually isn't the answer, but seriously, these guys deserved to die. Unfortunately that probably would've made them happy.

I hope they all got life sentences. People like this have no rights. They revoked any right to their 'rights' when they agreed to do something like this.

Life sentences?? For what? Disrespecting dead people? News flash: They're dead. The notion of respecting the dead is so absurd.
Ironically, the soldiers who died fought for this very sort free speech.

Anyway, I've never appreciated veteran's day/remembrance day/days that honor soldiers. I don't think that a day glorifying war and blind patriotism is a good thing. Have certain sacrifices been necessary in the past? Yes. But I can never glorify the killing another human, especially in the unnecessary conflicts we are in currently.

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 Post subject: Re: Remembrance day
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ryan1 wrote:
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I know violence usually isn't the answer, but seriously, these guys deserved to die. Unfortunately that probably would've made them happy.

I hope they all got life sentences. People like this have no rights. They revoked any right to their 'rights' when they agreed to do something like this.

Life sentences?? For what? Disrespecting dead people? News flash: They're dead. The notion of respecting the dead is so absurd.
Ironically, the soldiers who died fought for this very sort free speech.

Anyway, I've never appreciated veteran's day/remembrance day/days that honor soldiers. I don't think that a day glorifying war and blind patriotism is a good thing. Have certain sacrifices been necessary in the past? Yes. But I can never glorify the killing another human, especially in the unnecessary conflicts we are in currently.


Remembrance day is remembering those that fought in world war 1. It's not glorifying blind patriotism because the men that went to war for England had no choice in the matter. It wasn't a case of sign up if you like we could do with a hand. It was required. And it's certainly not about glorifying killing other people. It has little if anything to do with the war we're in now.

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Anyway, I've never appreciated veteran's day/remembrance day/days that honor soldiers. I don't think that a day glorifying war and blind patriotism is a good thing. Have certain sacrifices been necessary in the past? Yes. But I can never glorify the killing another human, especially in the unnecessary conflicts we are in currently.

Yeah, I hate that. I thought Remembrance Day was a day for reflection and thinking and to remember those who've served/died but for some reason militarism and glorification is always brought in to it. lol after yesterday on Facebook there's a few "I think I am going to join the army!!" statuses now... What annoys me the most is the "they fought for your freedom" stuff when it wasn't threatened. It especially annoys me when "and I will/you should stand and fight with him" is added. Whether or not sending soldiers to kill and die in whatever war was justified or not is irrelevant, if you are going to justify the death and destruction in the name of the freedom of people who weren't threatened and have that justification accepted, then why can't you justify any war for whatever reason in the name of your freedom? It's just dangerous.

Not that I think a way of protesting whatever they cause were, I can't tell with all the religious stuff, is to go and cause such a disruptance and act like a bunch of morons. But I guess a just their presence, even if it was quiet, would **** people off.
All their **** probably added to the militarism and now everyone is probably even more like "YEAH LETS INVADE MUSLIM LAND WE HAVE TO DO THIS FOR FREEDOM"


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 Post subject: Re: Remembrance day
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328703/Remembrance-Day-Poppy-burning-Muslim-protesters-mar-Armistice-Day.html

What a pleasent thing to do. Our soldiers fought and died for freedom so these scumbags can stand about and do this. I've no idea how those policemen stand there and protect them. I'd have trouble not swinging at one. But that's the price of freedom.

It's sad that they have to abuse it this way they do themselves and the muslim population no favours acting this way.

You should have takin a swing at them, No Respect!

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 Post subject: Re: Remembrance day
PostPosted: November 17th, 2010, 8:33 am 
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Anyway, I've never appreciated veteran's day/remembrance day/days that honor soldiers. I don't think that a day glorifying war and blind patriotism is a good thing. Have certain sacrifices been necessary in the past? Yes. But I can never glorify the killing another human, especially in the unnecessary conflicts we are in currently.


Remembrance Day isn't about glorifying war, quite the contrary in fact. It was originally enacted in response to the World Wars, with the aim of preventing them ever being forgotten or repeated in the future. As for "blind patriotism", I'd agree to a certain degree, except for the fact that soldiers were conscripted during the World Wars, so blind or not, it didn't make any difference.

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 Post subject: Re: Remembrance day
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... excluded-school.html

Christ all mighty. They've SET UP a defence **** league IN the school? BAN them. Suspend them. **** hell we're teaching and supporting mini terrorists.

edit: Oh they did kick them out. Excellent. Don't let the **** get an education.

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PostPosted: November 18th, 2010, 10:25 am 
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Take a chill pill Creepy, no need to be swearing about this. You need to remember that hate only creates more hate. I must say, I'm somewhat of a pacifist and I find super-patriotism foolish. Remembrance day, Veteran's day, etc. aren't about glorifying the tragedies of war, but about contemplating the sacrifices people have made with the intention to protect their country, no matter how impossible it is to justify the war. In these cases they're remembering both the 1st and 2nd world wars and the immense loss of life that occurred. The holidays aforementioned should remind us how horrible war is, and hopefully help us see when we're going down the wrong path, unless your moral vision is non-existent (I'm looking at you GWB)
Glorifying soldiers, no. Recognizing the sacrifices they personally made and those made by their dead comrades, yes.
As for the Muslim protesters, there's not much we can do, except show our disapproval of their acts on such a solemn day. It's sad to see so much hate and violence going into such an unreasonable conflict. Each side demonizes the other, just making the hate worse. I understand the whole concept of Jihad, but we are seeing in both the west and the east a polarization of people. From what I hear, many Muslim religious leaders actually condemn such violent and hateful acts saying that what people are doing is against the teachings of Mohamed. Both sides need to stop, we're in a vicious circle of hate that can only be broken with understanding, good will and love (I mean it in the "philia" sense of the word, a.k.a. brotherly love).

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 Post subject: Re: Remembrance day
PostPosted: November 18th, 2010, 10:50 am 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330517/Facebook-death-threats-5-Muslim-boys-white-girl-excluded-school.html

Christ all mighty. They've SET UP a defence **** league IN the school? BAN them. Suspend them. **** hell we're teaching and supporting mini terrorists.

edit: Oh they did kick them out. Excellent. Don't let the **** get an education.


On a slightly different note, why are 12 year-olds on Facebook?

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Ugh.. why shouldn't they be lol? I talk to my 10 year old cousin on facebook and his 12 year old sister and other siblings but they're 13 and 15 and I never think like "wow they should not be on here!"

Anyways I don't understand why promoting ignorance by removing an education (if it is permanent) is going to do any good... I would much rather someone with a respectable job have terroristic instincts than someone in a gang with terroristic instincts. Worst thing you can do especially if their parents aren't sensible. They're 12, honestly lol should be working with them before they become adult with it. Yeah they can distinguish right and wrong but obviously it would get blurred to them when you honour your soldiers for fighting and killing "their people" (if Remembrance day was what it was supposed to be we would be remembering those who fought and died on both sides) and then they see all this **** on the media and they admire it as an outlet against it. They probably see everyone as wrong for supporting the troops and see themselves as right. But okay, let's give up on them. 'Brainwashed' just as much as kids on the other end are.


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Aquw VettelS 776 wrote:
CreepyPirate wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330517/Facebook-death-threats-5-Muslim-boys-white-girl-excluded-school.html

Christ all mighty. They've SET UP a defence **** league IN the school? BAN them. Suspend them. **** hell we're teaching and supporting mini terrorists.

edit: Oh they did kick them out. Excellent. Don't let the **** get an education.


On a slightly different note, why are 12 year-olds on Facebook?


I think it's fine if the parents keep an eye on them.

@Warren if there going to threaten, bully and victimize an innocent child then yes. Kick them out the school. Why should his life be miserable to make room for them? Why should his life be at risk for them? Why should people in there school be afraid to speak there mind and even (god forbid) support there own country. How brainwashed are we for not wanting this type of behaviour in school. We should give them another chance.

If they want an education there parents can pay out the nose to send them to a private school.

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