Man sentenced to death in Iran for changing faiths.

Ranging God · **Posted:** February 22nd, 2012, 12:46 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/02/22 ... or-convert-to-death/

This is absolutely repulsive. In short, Iran is sentencing a Muslim turned Christian pastor to death. I hope that something happens to stop it, like other country influence, but seeing as how this is Iran, I doubt that will be the case.

Adbot · **Posted:** February 22nd, 2012, 12:46 pm

Shane · **Posted:** February 22nd, 2012, 5:55 pm

Just goes to show how horrible Iran is. I really wish NATO and the UN would have acted on Iran a few years back. It doesn't make sense that an operation for Libya is fine because they were practically unarmed while the same things that happen in Iran and now Syria are allowed to go unchallenged.

Also of note from the article:
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and 89 members of Congress, along with the European Union, France, Great Britain, Mexico and Germany, have condemned Iran for arresting Nadarkhani and have called for his quick release.

THAT WON'T WORK. Iran is very close to having what they've always wanted, sanctions, condemnation, and every form of diplomacy means nothing now.

Estor · **Posted:** February 22nd, 2012, 6:10 pm

Oh how many problems religion can cause! Glad I'm not a part of it. Even though it's not so much because of religion, more so Iran just needing to chill over stupid ****.

trekkie · **Posted:** February 22nd, 2012, 6:50 pm

time to nuke it. and send it back to the dinosaur age.

Warren · **Posted:** February 22nd, 2012, 7:02 pm

Tough on crime. He broke the law, and it doesn't matter what you think about them, laws are laws and must be followed.

In our world the death penalty can still be used, it doesn't, but it can be. In our world, religion is taken very seriously. In our world, there are many people hostile towards Muslim faith. Iran is centuries behind and it's horrible, but not incomprehensible that it would happen. Not just because it's Iran, but because of the atmosphere on this side of the world... good thing we have rights sometimes.

Estor · **Posted:** February 22nd, 2012, 7:50 pm

trekkie wrote:

time to nuke it. and send it back to the dinosaur age.

It's already in the dinosaur age

Adbot · **Posted:** February 22nd, 2012, 7:50 pm

Duke Juker · RSBandB Donor since 07/01/2010

Quite a tragedy really. I hope they release him and let him go to another country.

ryan1 · **Posted:** February 23rd, 2012, 9:42 am

Unfortunately, this is what their religion calls for. They're just being good adherents.

If you look closely at Christianity, it calls for the same thing:

The Bible wrote:

Deuteronomy 17: 2-5 --- "If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars in the sky, and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death."

Luckily for those of us living in civilized countries, religious rules such as these have been wiped out with rational thought.

Ranging God · **Posted:** February 23rd, 2012, 10:05 am

ryan1 wrote:

Unfortunately, this is what their religion calls for. They're just being good adherents.

If you look closely at Christianity, it calls for the same thing:

The Bible wrote:

Deuteronomy 17: 2-5 --- "If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars in the sky, and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death."

Luckily for those of us living in civilized countries, religious rules such as these have been wiped out with rational thought.

While your scripture is true, you must take note that Deuteronomy is in the Old Testament which was before man realized God is a loving God, not one of wrath, which has been acknowledged in the New Testament.

Duke Juker · RSBandB Donor since 07/01/2010

Ranging God wrote:

ryan1 wrote:

Unfortunately, this is what their religion calls for. They're just being good adherents.

If you look closely at Christianity, it calls for the same thing:

The Bible wrote:

Deuteronomy 17: 2-5 --- "If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars in the sky, and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death."

Luckily for those of us living in civilized countries, religious rules such as these have been wiped out with rational thought.

While your scripture is true, you must take note that Deuteronomy is in the Old Testament which was before man realized God is a loving God, not one of wrath, which has been acknowledged in the New Testament.

Along those lines. you are taking Deuteronomy not only from the Old Testament, but also from the Jewish Pentateuch. The first five books of the bible were specifically for the Jewish people. Christianity wouldn't come until much later. Christianity more focuses on the New Testament rather than the old.

Ranging God · **Posted:** February 23rd, 2012, 1:19 pm

Duke Juker wrote:

Along those lines. you are taking Deuteronomy not only from the Old Testament, but also from the Jewish Pentateuch. The first five books of the bible were specifically for the Jewish people. Christianity wouldn't come until much later. Christianity more focuses on the New Testament rather than the old.

Duke Juker wrote:

If you look closely at Christianity, it calls for the same thing:

But that is what you said? You said Christianity calls for the same thing, and then posted the scripture... I am a little confused to what your point was?

Duke Juker · RSBandB Donor since 07/01/2010

Ranging God wrote:

Duke Juker wrote:

Along those lines. you are taking Deuteronomy not only from the Old Testament, but also from the Jewish Pentateuch. The first five books of the bible were specifically for the Jewish people. Christianity wouldn't come until much later. Christianity more focuses on the New Testament rather than the old.

Duke Juker wrote:

If you look closely at Christianity, it calls for the same thing:

But that is what you said? You said Christianity calls for the same thing, and then posted the scripture... I am a little confused to what your point was?

Got your quotes mixed up. Ryan said the second quote. It's quite true that if I said both statements, it wouldn't make any sense at all.

Estor · **Posted:** February 23rd, 2012, 2:30 pm

ryan1 wrote:

Unfortunately, this is what their religion calls for. They're just being good adherents.

If you look closely at Christianity, it calls for the same thing:

The Bible wrote:

Deuteronomy 17: 2-5 --- "If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars in the sky, and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death."

Luckily for those of us living in civilized countries, religious rules such as these have been wiped out with rational thought.

Yeah but when are people honestly ever killed for changing faiths in the US/UK/Canada or really any non-3rd world country. I've heard of people killed and the murderer's reason is something similar to that, but it doesn't make much sense and they're still sentenced for 1st degree murder. It makes it sounds like I should be killed as I have no 'faith'. Not having one doesn't seem much different than changing one.

ryan1 · **Posted:** February 23rd, 2012, 4:49 pm

Ranging God wrote:

While your scripture is true, you must take note that Deuteronomy is in the Old Testament which was before man realized God is a loving God, not one of wrath, which has been acknowledged in the New Testament.

You can try to dismiss the Old Testament, but then you're directly opposed to what Jesus supposedly said.

The Bible / Jesus wrote:

Matthew 5: 17-18 --- “Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law [AKA The Old Testament] or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law [AKA The Old Testament] until everything is accomplished."

Ranging God · **Posted:** February 23rd, 2012, 5:45 pm

ryan1 wrote:

Ranging God wrote:

While your scripture is true, you must take note that Deuteronomy is in the Old Testament which was before man realized God is a loving God, not one of wrath, which has been acknowledged in the New Testament.

You can try to dismiss the Old Testament, but then you're directly opposed to what Jesus supposedly said.

The Bible / Jesus wrote:

Matthew 5: 17-18 --- “Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law [AKA The Old Testament] or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law [AKA The Old Testament] until everything is accomplished."

*whips out Bible on Nook

If you read on, it is referring to the 10 commandments I believe. You may want to read farther on.

For instance
Matthew 5: 21- Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment
Matthew 5: 27 - Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery
Matthew 5: 33 - Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths

So, while the 10 Commandments IS in the Old Testament, the scripture that is not the direct word of God, such as the horrible stuff is not really followed anymore. The 10 Commandments however is a direct scripture from God, and is still Law, recognized in the New Test.