Abortion

Evelyn · **Posted:** June 6th, 2011, 9:33 pm

China has the 1 child policy because they have population issues.

Places that don't have population issues should never instate a 1 child policy.

Adbot · **Posted:** June 6th, 2011, 9:33 pm

Sunset Fish · **Posted:** June 7th, 2011, 7:00 am

Planet Earth, has an over population problem.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** June 7th, 2011, 7:57 am

No it doesn't. Yet.

India certainly should consider following in Chinas footsteps though.

Killjoy · **Posted:** June 7th, 2011, 12:05 pm

Interesting story pertaining to the topic:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43302321/ns ... nd_courts/?GT1=43001

Sunset Fish · **Posted:** June 7th, 2011, 12:48 pm

Sure it does.. It's not critical yet. We are almost at 7 billion people. Something needs to be done. Much more people are being born then are dying, partly due to advances in medicine, people are living longer.
Space is running out for people.. and jobs are hard to come by now as it is.. It wont get any better.
the entire rainforest will be destroy for land to harvest food and to house the ever growing population. People have to sleep somewhere.

And food.. there are already millions and millions of people who go hungry every night. Just just due to the fact that they have no money. ( brings up the lack of jobs again )
But because we can't produce enough food to feed everyone.
In 10 years.. I see a very hungry world. Food demands will be high. Which will lead to increase in price and with no job to pay for them..

hope you see where I'm going with this. :wink:

Evelyn · **Posted:** June 7th, 2011, 1:46 pm

Space? Running out? There's a nice wasteland in Siberia and Sahara. We've changed climates before we can do it again!

Adbot · **Posted:** June 7th, 2011, 1:46 pm

Priss · **Posted:** June 10th, 2011, 12:13 pm

I am pro life, but the only exceptions are rape (with proof), mothers life is in danger (it is up to the mother to decide), and if its known for sure the baby is going to have serious problems. People shouldn't be having *** at ANY age if the person is not ready for an "accident" to happen. The system needs to drill this into peoples heads, and if they want to have *** and not kids, well take out the scissors.

Duke Juker · RSBandB Donor since 07/01/2010

"It should be allowed but only for health complications."

I chose that. I'm pro-life. But to clarify my choice, I would only allow for abortions in cases where the mother's life is in danger. Can't think of any other exceptions that would apply. While rape is "unfair and unfortunate," it's not the future child's fault. Two wrongs (rape and abortion) don't make a right or make things right at all imo. I would also not agree that knowing ahead of time if a child is going to have serious health issues allows for abortion. That sounds too close to the idea of selective breeding/social engineering which is not the direction people should want to be headed.

On a personal side note, my mother was faced with the choice of having an abortion with me as her life was in grave danger due to a torn placenta. But, she choose to go through with it and risk her life and mine, and I have to say I am very grateful that she chose not to have an abortion. That said, I still believe it is right to have an abortion only if the mother's life was in grave danger.

I did have to laugh at the tax incentive option. In truth, the government should not allow abortions and offer tax incentives for having more children. More children = more taxpayers = more tax revenue. Hence, if we are looking at this from a government standpoint, abortions are not economically beneficial.

Edit: @Priss
Shouldn't the government and society be focusing on what causes unwanted pregnancies and prevent/deal with those things rather than dealing with the after affects? Perhaps people should be a bit more personal responsibility and self-control.

Warren · **Posted:** June 12th, 2011, 6:54 pm

I am happy that my parents didn't abort me, I think we all are, but had they done it it's not like I would exist in any capacity to condemn them because of it. Had the events of their lives not taken place in time exactly as it had, differing by even slightest bit of a second and had things not been in the exact position as they had been and all the stuff like that, I wouldn't have existed in any capacity in the first place either so it's not really something to care about.

My parents could have not been ready for kids, which they probably weren't but whatever they dealt with it, but it could have been so much worse. I could have had a completely terrible life. My mother could have had a completely terrible life because of it. If you could have foreseen the future in a situation like that and were somehow able to ask me what I'd thought of been aborted I would have been like, "Go right ahead." Because it would have been the same thing had they waited until they were ready - had they waited, I would not have existed in any capacity anyways.

The cells with potential to grow in to life are naturally aborted. Don't really see a difference when they are purposely aborted after the egg and sperm come together since it's still just a bunch of cells with the potential to form life for a while.

Priss · **Posted:** June 13th, 2011, 1:24 pm

Duke Juker wrote:

Edit: @Priss
Shouldn't the government and society be focusing on what causes unwanted pregnancies and prevent/deal with those things rather than dealing with the after affects? Perhaps people should be a bit more personal responsibility and self-control.

Exactly!

trekkie · **Posted:** June 13th, 2011, 1:56 pm

problem is duke, there is no one way to stop people from having unprotected ***. there are teens who do not want to have a baby, have a baby to make themselves feel better, not using protection, media etc etc

there is no one size fits all plan. that's why it has been a problem.

on the other hand, teenage pregnancy did drop dramatically last year, because MTV had that tv series on teenagers pregnancies.

Ranging God · **Posted:** June 13th, 2011, 3:31 pm

As for the overpopulation topic, if everyone switched to a vegetarian diet, world hunger would be solved. ;p

Warren · **Posted:** June 13th, 2011, 3:58 pm

I'd think world hunger is more because we're greedy as **** rather than that we've run out of space for food production because of inefficient use of land for meat purposes. Even if everyone switched to a vegetarian diet and we grew enough food to feed the entire world, no matter how cheap it is, I'd doubt many people would be up for it XD

Duke Juker · RSBandB Donor since 07/01/2010

trekkie wrote:

problem is duke, there is no one way to stop people from having unprotected ***. there are teens who do not want to have a baby, have a baby to make themselves feel better, not using protection, media etc etc

there is no one size fits all plan. that's why it has been a problem.

on the other hand, teenage pregnancy did drop dramatically last year, because MTV had that tv series on teenagers pregnancies.

One size fits all = personal responsibility and self-control. You are partly right in saying that on the outside, you can't stop it from happening. But if people were forced to take personal responsibility for their actions, you would see a lot fewer unwanted pregnancies (among other things). Also, controlling wants and desires (aka selfishness) would prevent unwanted pregnancies. It's not a matter of providing abortions to prevent unwanted pregnancies. The preventative means are already their...it's something teenagers and adults can control (aside from rape or other kinds of forced ***). All I'm saying is why not deal with the problem that is the root of the cause rather than trying to deal with the after affects by way of an abortion. That is the bigger and more important issue at stake in this whole debate imo.