What Murdered Music?

Iron Maiden · **Posted:** September 19th, 2011, 10:53 pm

This is mainly a rant, so don't read if you don't feel like reading a rant.

I turn on the radio...just to turn it off 5 minutes later.
I change the channel every 2 minutes because what I hear bring me to anger.
I look at most viewed music video...just to see that it sucks.
I look at M+ (My version of MTV)... just to see that it sucks.
But why?
Why music has gone THIS bad? How could it?

I have the answers: Autotune, Grunge and New Artists

Autotune killed music. Because it gives the ability to any boderline retarded ****** or talentless ***** (yes, I'm looking at you Bieber and Rihanna, being the two worst artist that ever existed) to have a robotic or so much edited voice that it doesn't sound like yours to the slightest. Yeh, it gives a voice to people that doesn't have any. With budget, I could go on, take one of my self made lyrics, make a crappy beat and autotune myself and become a legend. It doesn't make me a GOOD artist. It's unnatural and it frankly sucks.
Aerosmith, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Kiss, Journey, Queen, David Bowie, Bon Jovi, G'N'R, Pink Floyd, etc. They didn't need autotune, because they had talent. They played with their heart, they had real instruments, real voicing and that's what made them special and even legendary.
And, am I the only one who noticed how much today's music sound quality is **** HORRIBLE? Try turning up the sound of a Lady GaGa song and hear how bad it sounds. In 80s, every single song had outstanding sound quality. And it was powerful, you could turn it up to an infinite level and still have a perfect sound.

Grunge killed music aswell. Because of Nirvana. Nirvana was an alright band that had some talent and made some few good songs in a way that only THEM could make that. Only Nirvana could make 3 chords songs with average lyrics and make it good. No one else. Because it was their style. It was simple, dirty, and it was fine that way. But they're responsible because EVERY other retarded thought it would be an awesome idea to do like them and start copying their style and it turned like crap, thus making crap music over the years. Because Nirvana and Nirvana ONLY could make real Grunge. The rest was just either wannabe or pure piece of ****. Seriously. I cannot imagine any other band, no matter how legendary they are, singing Smells Like Teen Spirit. No wonder why newbies only made bad songs if they took that style. Add the fact that it created laziness in the writing of lyrics and music and turned out poorly years later.

New Artist killed music. Because they don't give a ****. They make crap lyrics. Their songs mean nothing. And their videos...It's not music, it's either robotic noise or breasts exposure. Who the hell said you had to make a clip half naked to have succes? Look at Samantha Fox, she made one of the most erotic song of all time (Touch me), and yet she didn't have to show up nearly naked in her clip.
And singers today...They're all freaking the same all over again. Pop artists over and over again...
In the 80s, there was only two female pop singer: Madonna and Kylie Minogue. And it was very fine that way because they were true.
And only one male: Michael FREAKING Jackson. The King of Pop.
These three had talent, they made good songs, and they didn't need **** auto tune for that. They were the only main pop singer and they were pretty **** good. They even became legend. Now, I stopped counting pop artist, there's too many of them and they all sing the same thing over and over again.
And now I'm coming to my final point, bands are as bad. No, don't tell me «You're looking at the wrong place! Dont listen radio band! There is plenty of great bands, they're just underground!»
Yes, they might have some talent. But they cannot even think of about maybe tieing Queen, Journey or Metallica.
Why do you think Ozzy, Iron Maiden, Kiss and such are still around? BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT FOUND ANYBODY ELSE TO REMPLACE THEM!!! There is no **** artist that can remplace The Prince of Darkness, The Demon of Screaming or The Metal God. Modern bands like Three Days Grace, Disturbed, Avengend Sevenfold, Foo Fighters and The Killers might be great and underrated, but they will never reach the glory the other bands I listed. Because there is no **** way Disturbed can be compared to Metallica, Megadeth or Maiden. NO WAY! They had incredible lyrics, outstanding guitar riffs and solos, amazing sound quality and much more, something that today bands don't have and probably never will if it continues that way. Because rock/metal bands of today can only make songs about how angry they are, about how their life suck or how much they hate somebody or the society. And mainstream crap can only make songs about how rich they are, about how many ***** they get, about idiotic crap that mean absolutly nothing and sound like a bugged 64track.

I listened to a 60+ minutes compilation of the 80s music. I watched it until the end and loved almost all of the songs.
I listened to 10 minutes 2000s music compilation. I nearly shed a tear. It sucked SO **** BAD. I couldn't even make it through the end, it was so UGLY the way that music turned. Shame it is.

Who else agrees? If not, what do you think killed music or why do you think it is still alive?

I'll leave ya with a short compilation of what was real music to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJHzvhqVfyI
It's pure sheer power. The hell of a voice. It's not GaGa, Rihanna or Perry that could sing that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f06QZCVUHg
Again, fantastic voice. Catchy beat and true power. You don't see that anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlq0lYB3iSM
Van Halen at their best. Catchy, nice solo and REAL talent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kh84i1F7gg
Amazing sound. Great voice that reminds me of Freddie Mercury a little bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktdQiODWt84
HOW can you not like this song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWyeVfuolT4
Everytime I make long distance road, I listen to this. It is so nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cues2i1fv58
Powerful song, turn on the volume just to see how incredible it sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDMlk3kSYg
Disco at its best. I dream of dancing to that in a club. Go to the stage and start singing like an idiot. BUT I CAN'T BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY PUT NEW AGE MAINSTREAM CRAP!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afHQd-lP4yU
One of my favorite songs. It plays so good. The quality is perfect. Perfectly balanced. God this IS music.

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Priss · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 4:52 am

Disagree with you. Music has evolved and yes there are some weirdos like Lagy Gaga but I still like some of her music.

Now if you want to see some of todays tallent.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE0B6V4c-lc&feature=related
Tell me someone who can sing upsidedown. (She is NOT lip syncing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qemWRToNYJY
If you dont love this chick, I dont know whats wrong with you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gVN2Pj8kUI
Former singer of Nightwish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epp3uuBBm-w&feature=fvst
One more for Tarja, cuz I love her. (not many people can hit that note at 4:15)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n71KUiWn1I&ob=av2e
Because Nicki is levitation! (<3 Rihanna)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ayQT1lzXU8
She was sick for this concert and STILL sounds great!

Want me to keep going?

Iron Maiden · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 10:14 am

[I can get incredibly agressive and fighting in discussions to express my point of view, so don't judge me for that post like so many people do lol.]

Go on if you want to, I'm not going to stop you lol. Can't say they're all bad, but cannot say they're the very best either. Adele is obviously the best out of them. She has a great voice, great lyrics, great music, everything. And she make songs that don't get annoying to listen to AND she can sing live. Yes, she has a voice. This is to whom other artists should aspire to be like.

But to me, the Nicki Minaj song you posted gave me a gun to fight. Isn't the proof of what I'm talking about? This song is clearly autotuned. It's not pure talent, it's fake. The beat is always the same used in every songs of this kind. She has no power in her vocals. She's just talking fast. AND I WON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT RIHANNA. This is an other proof that she is the most untalent singer of our days. She always uses the same tone of voice that has been obviously edited over and over again at least 500 times. I'm sure she'd get instantly rejected on America's Got Talent or American Idol.

The other songs are alright. They do have some talent. But that's all. Nightwish girl has indeed a very powerful voice. But if you listen Phantom of the Opera in studio version, her voice always gets buried down by the music. The music, so loud, takes so much over that we can't really hear the awesomness of this voice unless you use and equalizer.
And you probably know where I'm coming: They might have talent, they might deserve credits for that, they might be very good. BUT can you even imagine any of them tieing any of the older bands such as Queen, Aerosmith or The Rolling Stones? No, they're very good at some point, but they aren't as legendary nor as good as who I listed. Talent's not missing, Very good talent isn't missing, Legendary talent is obviously missing. Pink Floyd, The Beatles and Led Zep left peacefully because there were plenty of band or singers that could match them such as Queen, U2, Michael Jackson, etc.
Today, U2, Metallica, Maiden, Judas Priest, Ozzy, Journey and such are still around because they have not found anybody to remplace them. Artist might have talent, but they cannot match any of these.
Finally, I saw you posted alot of live video. They're alright and good performence, but to me, these are live performence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBUJztI884M
Greatest frontman in music history. I have to see a man who can make scream a crowd like this. He's terrific and gives chills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v626CMvM5Q
The Demon of Screaming at his best. He nails high notes so easily.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7fxN3g5sLw
That's the hell of a crazy performance. They're so iconic. Look at all the fans in the crowd with make up. It's even better live than in studios.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEL6_SuQCu8
Metal at its best. You don't see bassists, drummer and guitarist as good as them anymore. And no more solos like this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U73sC6tAZQ&feature=related
This guy is probably one of the best lyrics writer in music history. It's pure, it's true. I'm sure he can make most of women go crazy with his love songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVoABTmcWsg
The drummer has ONE arm. No artists from today could have his courage to keep on rockin' after a such accident. And yet, he is outstanding.

Evelyn · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 10:20 am

I absolutely hate autotune, and most things that I do hear on the radio or played in public are songs that I cannot ever bear to listen to at home with Winamp.

Priss · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 12:27 pm

Lol Nicki and Rihanna was to annoy you.

Warren · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 12:38 pm

Arghghg music I like is better than what everyone else likes (not that I disagree, it's not that hard to not like mainstreammy).

I'd tell you that music isn't dead, you're just looking at "mainstream" popular stuff to satisfy your taste when it won't, but you don't want me to tell you that.
Cool, maybe no one can replace those guys you like, I dunno why you are looking to replace them in the first place though. And what gets popular is what is profitable, which is what probably has "killed" music. It's a shame that music gets lost in money but GOOD THING THAT that's the way the world works.
I generally don't like masspopular music either, but sometimes I like some even if they suck or sometimes I think some are good... Like someone posted the lyrics to pumpped up kicks on facebook and I thought it was some new hip hop thing but I looked it up and actually liked it XD

Although, you can take a ******* song, put a good video behind it, and it becomes good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvqUhx4hJgw

I'll link viddies like everyone else, but it's not going to prove anything because individual taste ≠ music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bHtneB_ ... yer_detailpage#t=20s
Hahaha (because it is popular yet it is good, paradox???)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peVBRCs0chA
Hahaha (because it is not too popular yet it might suck to you)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAouOc2u1hA
Yeahh, **** Don Cherry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91762o44K40
This is widespread too, I guess not really mainstream but sounds so goodie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87nyXnflAGY
I DUNNO ABOUT YOU BUT I JUST FOUND THIS AND I THINK HOW COOL IT IS THEY CAN DO THE SONG ACOUSTICALLY LIKE THAT ACCURATELY

BUT I'D DISAGREE. Music isn't murdered, just raped. Again and again and again and again.
Lol i noticed I don't know any music from 2011

Adbot · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 12:38 pm

Uncle Dano · **12 99's on 12/12/12!**

Couldn't agree with you more, Batman. Besides the fact that the young, no-talent *cough* "artists" *cough* of today have to manipulate their songs electronically in order to correct for their off key horrible voices, the lyrics make me cringe... many newer songs are just about partying and ***, (<--- you can guess what that word is) with no shame in being in your face. Innuendo... oh NO, rather more like direct filth.

Sad to say but there are absolutely very few artists in the last 10 to 20 years that have produced a high quality musical track that can be called a "classic"... one that in 20 years time will still be played on the radio. Those listeners with actual taste in music have resorted to going back to the classic bands of the 70's and 80's (Pink Floyd, Aerosmith, Styx, The Doors, etc.) Retro? No, just good music that will last forever. Who can say that about the garbage produced today?

*sounds of crickets chirping*

Iron Maiden · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 12:57 pm

Warren wrote:

Cool, maybe no one can replace those guys you like, I dunno why you are looking to replace them in the first place though.

Well I don't want people to remplace them for now because I don't want to see them leave/split/die/retire for now. Because they're all that remains from the good days.
I just wish someday if a band I like retire I could be able to say «It's ok, they've done their time, they provided great moments, but there's plenty of good bands out there left!»
I couldn't say that today. But we did when The Beatles left (They've split in 1970, but the 70s had SO MUCH other great artists), same for Led Zepp (Split in 1980 because of Bonham death) and then again we've said, «Fine, there is still plenty of good bands in the 80s, the greatest music decade.»

Now can you imagine all the remaining bands from the 70-80s leaving? **** no, because there won't be anything left good to listen to. Or at least, all of the good songs will be buried down by the mainstream crap and will never get the succes and credits it deserves.

Duke Juker · RSBandB Donor since 07/01/2010

Music has become less about talent and more about show and created talent (auto tune and over hyped/overplayed). Music and talent should come naturally, not artificially. The thing I can't stand about singers like Lady Gaga, Ke$ha, Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, etc. (yes, they are all girl singers, but that's what's at the top right now in the US) is that they aren't that great of singers. Their lyrics are repetitive and lack creativity. Auto tune makes up for anything they lack in their voice. Unfortunately, they are continually played and hyped despite not being the best available singers. It's too bad the music industry has turned out this way. I still like to listen to my oldies when songs and voices were based on mostly talent.

Ablazin Scar · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 2:48 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2beZSFe7I4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPR799CTfmA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjhSJ2xCL4&feature=related {couldn't find a video that wasn't from someone's sh*tty camera.}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqo-HA0vWO0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD1MTNnbU9U {skip to like 1:45}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaFVvNFrnrE {you have to get used to their style to like the band. It's my favorite band, actually.}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU_dfT6dM5M

I could find more, but I guess that's enough. New music is good, just not autotuned buttrape. Ohwait, buttrap.

{If Priss wasn't a girl, I'd probably slap them for saying Pink, Rihanna, etc. is good.

Oh, and this is better than Metallica. All of Metallica's songs sound almost EXACTLY the freaking same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hdpmJBdONg

Iron Maiden · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 4:39 pm

No way, dude. Justice For All, Master of Puppets, Fade To Black and Nothing Else Matter and MANY more all have different sounds. And besides Judas Priest or Iron Maiden, I have yet to find a Heavy Metal band that can match Metallica. They've sold over 100k albums worldwide and toured around the globe for 30 years for a reason.

Priss · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 5:05 pm

Im Hard Tbh wrote:

{If Priss wasn't a girl, I'd probably slap them for saying Pink, Rihanna, etc. is good.

I was jking about Rihanna. But P!nk has talent, simply not a lot of people like her style. She has a great voice and puts on a great show. Talking about that, music has evolved on whoever puts on a better show because people rip their music. How else are they supposed to make money? (This one is for you Im Hard TBH) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3stsDXki__U&ob=av3e

Lady gaga is a weirdo but she has talent, and a great voice. A few friends of mine got into discussion about her and we all agreed that she will be remembered like one of the big ones. If you ignore the weird video and just listen to the music, you will apreciate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9YMU0WeBwU&ob=av2e

Music has evolved like everything else around has. There are people out there with great talent but they haven't had the chance to rise. There are different types of music and it is not fair to compare all as the same. Also remember people like different music. You are comparing mainly Rock/Heavy Metal with Pop. Completely different. If you don't listen to the music, you shouldn't put your opinion on it.

Like Warren said, why replace something that is good? I say why will they stop doing something they are good at. You are comparing people who have been in the industry longer than our current singers. I am sure they wont stop either if they can continue.

Iron Maiden · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 5:41 pm

Never said I wanted to remplace them. I only say that in the future, when they'll be too old to play and to tour, let's say in 20 years, there won't be anyone to take the relay. That's all

I know comparing Rock to Pop isn't 100% fair. However I like various pop singer from the 80s that do have some talent. Michael Jackson, ABBA and many more. And in no way any pop artist from today can match MJ or ABBA. And that's either in succes or talent.

Besides, I don't really hate GaGa. She has some talent, and yes I think she deserves the credit she gets BUT the problem is the sound quality of her songs. I cannot rise the volume of any of her song without getting an horrible BRRRRZZZTTTT in background. In live, she doesn't have that issue, but she lacks voice strength a little bit, but that's not a real problem.

Priss · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 5:49 pm

Batman wrote:

I cannot rise the volume of any of her song without getting an horrible BRRRRZZZTTTT in background.

Really? I just raised the volume all the way up on "You and I" and my speakers didn't have any issues lol

Iron Maiden · **Posted:** September 20th, 2011, 6:01 pm

Lucky you. I have a 4000Watt sound system, like the one you see in the clubs, and trust me, the sound quality is terrible. Same when I go to clubs or bars, LG music and modern music in general has a really really bad background sound. Nobody seem to hear it but I do. And I know I'm not crazy, I don't hear it when it's disco music, 80s music or such.