Guns, guns, guns.....

czskrazzi · **Posted:** April 20th, 2007, 9:51 pm

Ok I want to say a few things here, and I don't care if my opinion isn't liked.

I'm going to rant a little here about guns..

Guns are not bad, but they are not good, plain and simple, there is no other truth to that.

A gun is soooo easy to get in america, you have to be 21, have a valid I.D. (license etc), and not charged with any felony's etc. There may be more but I'm not sure of anything else.. So the point to that is, they are a little to easy to get access too.

Gun violence, this will always happen no matter what, this is truth, nothing else. If there is a law passed in the U.S. that bans civilians from owning guns, do you really think that will stop or reduce killings by guns?. NO!. It will not!. Criminals and other people like that will always have access to weapons, knowing that most people wont have a gun to protect themselves, crime would actually increase.

It was said by some recently, to arm more people with guns? What the hell is wrong with people? More guns = more death, more violence.

Look ill get to the point, you cannot ban guns, you can't arm more people with guns, those will both increase crime, and deaths. Either way, nothing will change, people will always have guns, there will always be violence and killings by guns, innocent will die. The unfortunate truth about our human nature.

Adbot · **Posted:** April 20th, 2007, 9:51 pm

The Killer · **Posted:** April 20th, 2007, 10:27 pm

Good thing my country banned guns since the end of World War II. And also an extremely strict law against possession of guns and similar weapons.

I mean, you're almost always sentenced to death or life imprisonment for just owning a gun.

I love my country. So safe and secure.

Mikhail · **Posted:** April 20th, 2007, 10:40 pm

Well I hope USA passes such a law, that says that a citizen can only own a firearm, if they went to army or any military branch...otherwise I agree with your idea Krazzi.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 12:33 am

czskrazzi wrote:

Ok I want to say a few things here, and I don't care if my opinion isn't liked.

I'm going to rant a little here about guns..

Guns are not bad, but they are not good, plain and simple, there is no other truth to that.

A gun is soooo easy to get in america, you have to be 21, have a valid I.D. (license etc), and not charged with any felony's etc. There may be more but I'm not sure of anything else.. So the point to that is, they are a little to easy to get access too.

Gun violence, this will always happen no matter what, this is truth, nothing else. If there is a law passed in the U.S. that bans civilians from owning guns, do you really think that will stop or reduce killings by guns?. NO!. It will not!. Criminals and other people like that will always have access to weapons, knowing that most people wont have a gun to protect themselves, crime would actually increase.

It was said by some recently, to arm more people with guns? What the hell is wrong with people? More guns = more death, more violence.

Look ill get to the point, you cannot ban guns, you can't arm more people with guns, those will both increase crime, and deaths. Either way, nothing will change, people will always have guns, there will always be violence and killings by guns, innocent will die. The unfortunate truth about our human nature.

Well yes, it will. It's been proven it does, look at every country that has banned guns. Looking long term, more and more guns being removed from the flow it'll become harder and harder to get one and yes, ok, you might get organized criminals still using guns but you WONT get phycho school students doing it, because they don't have the means of getting a gun anymore.

You're right, you can't stop gun crime you could however greatly reduce it if it wasn't for this BS "I HAVE TEH RIGHT TO DEFEND MYSELF@@" crap.

Slimppu · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 1:14 am

I don't quite agree.

Krazzi, you mentioned alarm system in other topic. That is, indeed, a great idea. If robber comes to your house quietly, without making any noise, please tell me, how the hell can a gun save you while you are asleep? NO, it can not. But! There is no robber that stupid (i hope) who would stay in your house while alarm system ringing.

And to my second point. If a robber/murderer possessed a crime with gun, it is very hard for police to find that person, seeing as everyone can have a gun for "personal protection". If guns were banned, that'd mean that having a gun is crime, and if police could find a person with gun, there is a high possibility that he is a robber/killer of somekind.

So, ban the guns, get alarm system and everything will be FINEEE.

ryan1 · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 9:33 am

But what about our right to bear arms?

Banning guns because some people who use them kill people is like banning cars because some (mostly intoxicated) people who use them hit and kill people with them.

Adbot · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 9:33 am

Evelyn · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 9:34 am

Banning guns will start underground trafficking.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 9:50 am

I love how people just ignore whats been said and carry on with "WELL IF YOU BAN THEM THEY WILL CARRY ON ANYWAY".

We've established that much, we've also established if they was banned it'd be greatly reduced and that a "right" to own a gun is stupid. What about Irans "right" to develope a nuclear system? THEY MIGHT NOT BLOW UP HALF THE WORLD1!!1

Also A car is used to transport you from A to B a gun is designed to do what? Kill stuff.

Argue it whatever way you like, guns are made to kill things and as there so easy to get there, they need to be banned.

Mr Pink · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 9:54 am

Of course there will be gun violence even if there will a law not allowing it, but it will reduce the lives taken away every day since it won't that easy to get a gun as it would be now.

czskrazzi · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 10:00 am

Cliff Dude wrote:

Banning guns will start underground trafficking.

Exactly..

Alarm systems do help, some response time of the police can be 2minutes, sometimes less/more. What about people who are not making a good income and can't afford a fancy alarm system. Only very good robbers can break into your house quietly, get a dog that will bark when someone is around.
Not a stupid french poodle as a guard dog hehe

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I personally don't give a flip for this "Right to bear arms". I believe anyone has the right to defend themself with a firearm. No offense to anyone, but if you think its stupid to defend yourself with a firearm, learn some real logic please. If your confronted by anyone with a gun, and unless you can dodge bullets, your survival is extremely low if you don't have a gun.

There are country's that have banned guns, yes that's true. However has it stopped gun violence.. NO!.. People still get them, and yes even the mentally insane psycho killers. Its just harder for them to get their hands on the gun.. You know why this won't reduce mass murders, because they are already rare as it is, you don't see one every week. Ban guns, there would be no change, you wouldn't see one every week, but you still will see mass murders every now and then.

I wish it was as easy as banning guns. But it will never happen, lately I've been a realist. I see the facts, and I face reality, not hide behind some stupid belief that makes me feel better and safer. I face reality, and I deal with it.

Btw creepy, anyone has the right to defend themself, i bet you would be wanting to defend yourself if you were on your knees begging for your life right now if someone had you at gun point. Do you have a gun to protect yourself? This is of course the small chance of it happening. Nice to see some people all around the world would rather die from some sick degenerate low life crack head criminal shooting them rather than owning a gun to at least save their own life.. Awesome logic..*sarcasm.

Alex · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 10:46 am

We don't have much gun violence in the Uk, its all about knives.

Alot of teanagers who were in gangs have been murdered over the past couple of months.

The Killer · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 10:49 am

If guns were banned, no robber would've been able to use a gun to threaten the victim, and besides, you can easily take down someone being unarmed if you're skilled enough with your martial arts. Therefore you don't need a gun to protect yourself.

CreepyPirate wrote:

We've established that much, we've also established if they was banned it'd be greatly reduced and that a "right" to own a gun is stupid. What about Irans "right" to develope a nuclear system? THEY MIGHT NOT BLOW UP HALF THE WORLD1!!1

Gotta agree on that one.

Pat · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 11:05 am

Guns are an instrument of death and destruction. Cars kill people too, but they have other uses too. What other purpose do guns serve? None.

Anti-gun control people give worst-case scenarios involving an armed burglar and some innocent man's home. Burglaries should be punished by vigilante killings and ironically, criminals are more like to have a gun when they think the owner of the house has a gun.

I am not saying that guns should be banned. Guns can be a good thing, but only if used properly. That's why there should be stricter gun control.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 11:12 am

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I personally don't give a flip for this "Right to bear arms". I believe anyone has the right to defend themself with a firearm. No offense to anyone, but if you think its stupid to defend yourself with a firearm, learn some real logic please. If your confronted by anyone with a gun, and unless you can dodge bullets, your survival is extremely low if you don't have a gun.

Please, anyone who uses a gun is usually using it as a last resort, they use it as a way to get what they need/want and wont want to hurt anyone if i was confronted by a gun i'd do as they say, over pulilng a gun and either getting myself killed (over what, some money? oh wow, worth it.) or killing them and getting put in jail. (oh good, i lose my life anyway and spend my time getting raped up the *** by some big butch hairy guy, fun.)

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There are country's that have banned guns, yes that's true. However has it stopped gun violence.. NO!.. People still get them, and yes even the mentally insane psycho killers. Its just harder for them to get their hands on the gun.. You know why this won't reduce mass murders, because they are already rare as it is, you don't see one every week. Ban guns, there would be no change, you wouldn't see one every week, but you still will see mass murders every now and then.

Never said it would stop, everyones been saying it would greatly reduce it. Think about it, how the hell would a kid get a gun to shoot people at school with if they was banned? How many kids do you know that know enough shadey contacts to get ahold of guns and the like? XD

Get the guns out the system and gun crime will drop, no it wont happen right away but a few years down the line it will.

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I wish it was as easy as banning guns. But it will never happen, lately I've been a realist. I see the facts, and I face reality, not hide behind some stupid belief that makes me feel better and safer. I face reality, and I deal with it.

Apparently reality is getting your life ruined cause you think you have the right to take the law into your own hands.

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Btw creepy, anyone has the right to defend themself, i bet you would be wanting to defend yourself if you were on your knees begging for your life right now if someone had you at gun point. Do you have a gun to protect yourself? This is of course the small chance of it happening. Nice to see some people all around the world would rather die from some sick degenerate low life crack head criminal shooting them rather than owning a gun to at least save their own life.. Awesome logic..*sarcasm.

The awesome thing about my country is we've banned guns. Gun crime is so rare now. Seriously, even air rifles and the such are banned in public.

Guns get used in big big criminal going on's. I don't need to worry about one coming in my house, i don't need to feel like i have to own a gun incase a burglar comes in, like you. Because it simply will not happen.

England is proof that banning guns can and does work well, yes we still have gun crime but not much, i rarely ever hear of any.

Mikhail · **Posted:** April 21st, 2007, 11:13 am

Like why doesnt anyone agree with me that in order to get a gunm you have to go to the Army, or any military divison, and as well as pass background testing and things...Yes guns very easy to get here.