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I understand your point but in your case, the parents can actually bring up the child and let it grow up without having to sell it for prostitution, work at age 8, etc. It's true that great people have risen from poverty. But it's also true that people turn to drugs, gangs, and mobs to make money.

I see what you are trying to say, but you have to realise that problems like crime and prostitution arise from being poor more than anything else. With people unable to get work in poor neighborhoods, they resort (most of the time) to doing illegal activity. Giving parents licenses won't solve that problem, it'll just decrease the amount of lower-income children being born. If you really wanted to cut down on crime, disallowing people to become parents isn't the way to do it. Improve the economic situation of an area by creating sources for jobs and increase police protection. That's the way to cut down crime more than anything

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I've been thinking this for a long, long time.

If you live in britain, you've seen what charvs are like. They get pregnant at 13 and have like 12 kids, get given a house and an income by the government and do nothing with their life. They don't bring the children up at all having had no decent parental figure in their own lives, so they see nothing wrong with this and their children see nothing wrong with this.

People should have to pass a test to be able to have children. Whenever they want to have a child, past say 18. People below 18 should still be in education. If you can't vote, you can't raise a child. If they fail the test, the foetus (if there is already one there) should be aborted, with parental protests ignored.


I disagree with abortion. Adoption is what they should do, I think.

Parents who bring up children badly, i think, should be sent off on courses, and their children taken away for a while. Some people are naturally brilliant parents, although some people arent. Everyone should be given the chance to show that they are good, but if they arent, they should be educated and have to have a licence.

As for intelligence, while you dont have to be clever to be a good parent, in general, stupid parents breed stupid children. There's actually a gene for it.

And the words Chav and Charva are actually seperate, despite having the same meaning.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/charva
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chav

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If they fail the test, the foetus (if there is already one there) should be aborted, with parental protests ignored.

Erm... I'm pretty sure its against some religions to have an abortion, but I'm not a religious kind of guy so I could be wrong...


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Hmm in ways it could help, but parents would just act like a good parent, get their license and abuse their child. Or whatever makes them a bad parent.

But bad parenting needs to stop. There needs to be some sort of punishment for child-abusers.

Has anyone read 'A boy called it' ?

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Has anyone read 'A boy called it' ?

Yeah, that was a really sad book.

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MQ is right. I totally agree.

And also, even though people are poor and have children that they can't take care of, they can solve it by getting jobs! If they're so poor, they should get a good job, that pays well, and if they can't, then I don't know what they can do.

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MQ is right. I totally agree.

And also, even though people are poor and have children that they can't take care of, they can solve it by getting jobs! If they're so poor, they should get a good job, that pays well, and if they can't, then I don't know what they can do.


They might not be well educated though.

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connor10238 wrote:
MQ is right. I totally agree.

And also, even though people are poor and have children that they can't take care of, they can solve it by getting jobs! If they're so poor, they should get a good job, that pays well, and if they can't, then I don't know what they can do.


They might not be well educated though.


I never really thought about that...

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connor10238 wrote:
AlexTommo wrote:
connor10238 wrote:
MQ is right. I totally agree.

And also, even though people are poor and have children that they can't take care of, they can solve it by getting jobs! If they're so poor, they should get a good job, that pays well, and if they can't, then I don't know what they can do.


They might not be well educated though.


I never really thought about that...


no offense, but think about your post before posting.

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thorny wrote:
connor10238 wrote:
AlexTommo wrote:
connor10238 wrote:
MQ is right. I totally agree.

And also, even though people are poor and have children that they can't take care of, they can solve it by getting jobs! If they're so poor, they should get a good job, that pays well, and if they can't, then I don't know what they can do.


They might not be well educated though.


I never really thought about that...


no offense, but think about your post before posting.


I did. It sorta came to my mind about education for a brief few seconds before I decided what to type, but they can at least get a good job. It doesn't have to be something that you need a high education for, but anything that can get them food and help pay the bills.

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Ha...hahahahaha.

This may have been a good idea in Nazi Germany.

Not in a supposedly democratic country.


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