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And I think F2P's should NOT divide by 15, they still have the other skills, they just can't use them. Without those other skills they're average lvls will be drastically higher and it's harder for P2P's to catch up with their average lvl.


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And I think F2P's should NOT divide by 15, they still have the other skills, they just can't use them. Without those other skills they're average lvls will be drastically higher and it's harder for P2P's to catch up with their average lvl.


not really true cause the first 50 levels of a skill are easy to get so the average will also be easier to level up. I think p2p and f2p are quite equal to each other. p2p for leveling up faster( more skils) and f2p for the lesser amount of skills available

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And I think F2P's should NOT divide by 15, they still have the other skills, they just can't use them. Without those other skills they're average lvls will be drastically higher and it's harder for P2P's to catch up with their average lvl.


not really true cause the first 50 levels of a skill are easy to get so the average will also be easier to level up. I think p2p and f2p are quite equal to each other. p2p for leveling up faster( more skils) and f2p for the lesser amount of skills available


Wtf? So, you don't get it.

F2P play a game where it's free and harder to lvl up. That's supposed to try and get them to play P2P. They still have the members skills, they don't pay, so they can't use them. It affects their average level.

And it is unfair because their average lvl will be WAY higher than a P2P of the same total level.


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And in case no one believes me.. 1506 Total..

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71 average on P2P. 100 in F2P.

And in case no one believes me.. 1506 Total..


you have to take your free-playing skills only......

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71 average on P2P. 100 in F2P.

And in case no one believes me.. 1506 Total..


you have to take your free-playing skills only......


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And I think F2P's should NOT divide by 15, they still have the other skills, they just can't use them. Without those other skills they're average lvls will be drastically higher and it's harder for P2P's to catch up with their average lvl.


not really true cause the first 50 levels of a skill are easy to get so the average will also be easier to level up. I think p2p and f2p are quite equal to each other. p2p for leveling up faster( more skils) and f2p for the lesser amount of skills available


Wtf? So, you don't get it.

F2P play a game where it's free and harder to lvl up. That's supposed to try and get them to play P2P. They still have the members skills, they don't pay, so they can't use them. It affects their average level.

And it is unfair because their average lvl will be WAY higher than a P2P of the same total level.


If it makes you feel any better you can take the total...multiple by 15 add 6 and divide by 21. Come on who said this was competition. Hilarious post. You actually feel like you competing with f2p's. Lol. :lol:


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Bib User wrote:
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And I think F2P's should NOT divide by 15, they still have the other skills, they just can't use them. Without those other skills they're average lvls will be drastically higher and it's harder for P2P's to catch up with their average lvl.


not really true cause the first 50 levels of a skill are easy to get so the average will also be easier to level up. I think p2p and f2p are quite equal to each other. p2p for leveling up faster( more skils) and f2p for the lesser amount of skills available


Wtf? So, you don't get it.

F2P play a game where it's free and harder to lvl up. That's supposed to try and get them to play P2P. They still have the members skills, they don't pay, so they can't use them. It affects their average level.

And it is unfair because their average lvl will be WAY higher than a P2P of the same total level.


at the begin of this thread there was a method how to calculate their average so if you dont take those ones you see it wont affect average. And p2p is easier to raise cause there are more skills and easier methods to train so its equal to each other. There is no advance in my opinion.

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i got 63.66
961 f2p skill total


Example, right here.

Hmm..I'm 500 total levels more than this guy, but only 5 average levels ahead? Why? Because one third of his skills don't count.


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I agree with Bib.

My skill total: 1422÷21=67.714


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Bib User wrote:
sate wrote:
i got 63.66
961 f2p skill total


Example, right here.

Hmm..I'm 500 total levels more than this guy, but only 5 average levels ahead? Why? Because one third of his skills don't count.


you cant compare a f2p with a p2p. You have to see it seperate from each other. For f2p are there lesser skills so its harder to train average. But at the other side it makes it easier to train cause there less levels needed to go up a average. So this varies a lot at one side hard 2 train and at the other side easy.

The difference with p2p is that it doesnt varies as much as f2p. p2p is more stabil. what i mean is that when you got more skills it will be easier. Of corrs your quite right when you say "i am only 5 higher" but when a f2p got all his skills like 70 for example it will be much more difficult to train a average.

lets say a f2p got all skills 70 ok? then his average is 70.
this means from 15 skills = about 11.064.405 xp.

This number i got from counting xp from level 1 to 70. To get 1 skill from 1 to 70 you need 737.627 i multiplied that number by 15 to get the 11.064.405xp

When you take the total xp (which i figured out) and you split that over 21 member skills you get 526.876 xp. this number means the average level you need to have the same xp as a f2p.

So a f2p needs to have 737.627xp to all his skills to get average 70. But a p2p needs 526.876 xp. To translate this xp numbers in to levels it lays between the 66 and 67.

So a p2p needs to have all his levels 66-67 to have the same average as a f2p which needs all 70.

Conclusion: You need to train lesser as a p2p to get the same average as a f2p. at the end which starts like around all skills 80 average will suddenly raise way higher. I think when you got all skills 80 or higher youre average will be much higher then a f2p.

this is my calculation feel free to post comments on it. I studied on this for half a hour. :)

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And I think F2P's should NOT divide by 15, they still have the other skills, they just can't use them. Without those other skills they're average lvls will be drastically higher and it's harder for P2P's to catch up with their average lvl.


not really true cause the first 50 levels of a skill are easy to get so the average will also be easier to level up. I think p2p and f2p are quite equal to each other. p2p for leveling up faster( more skils) and f2p for the lesser amount of skills available


Wtf? So, you don't get it.

F2P play a game where it's free and harder to lvl up. That's supposed to try and get them to play P2P. They still have the members skills, they don't pay, so they can't use them. It affects their average level.

And it is unfair because their average lvl will be WAY higher than a P2P of the same total level.


at the begin of this thread there was a method how to calculate their average so if you dont take those ones you see it wont affect average. And p2p is easier to raise cause there are more skills and easier methods to train so its equal to each other. There is no advance in my opinion.


You know bib user no one is forcing you to post in this topic. Infact you can create your own with your own formula. Infact you can go buy your own website and start your own forum that is p2p only forum if you dispise f2p so much. I for one have a f2p pure...that means that I am trying to create the strongest f2p I can. There is pride to that. So just don't flipping off and trying to change topics because you don't feel you are high enough above a certain class of player. Aka this topic is made using two equations. Stick with them or go start your own topic.

979/15=65.27


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