why is this happening!?

momsrascal93 · **Posted:** May 16th, 2006, 3:54 pm

my freind, bloodfinder1, is becomin a mod in a week!or so i heared.any ways!im gonna no a mod!he will scare away the autoers!!but dont bug him about or u mite make him quit!so dont bug him about it!we need the extra mod!this is the best news ive gotten!we can mine coal at lumby swamp again!!!hurrah!

w00000000t!

Adbot · **Posted:** May 16th, 2006, 3:54 pm

Whitefire9 · **Posted:** May 16th, 2006, 4:49 pm

A good way to help stop autoers is to maybe get the websites banned that have the macro downloads, or at least stop having the advertisements on the main runescape forums. I mean come on, look at rsbandb homepage! There are a least 3 cheat and macro download advertisements there, different each time you load the homepage, along with site advertiseing free gold, free items, cheats, and real world item trading. Get rid of those, and im sure it will help stop the forming of new macro's and cheaters.

And over 100 macs are banned each week at the least. Im sure that thats not many of them, but runescapes haveing enough trouble with the real people, let alone the macs. Complaining about it wont help. Just report the ones you see a few times by a few people, and it probbably would help runescape out alot. Give em a break, their trying their hardest to stop cheaters, update the game, and give you 2 new quests and corresponding items each month. Runescape Moderators have to deal with the problems as they arise, not as the players want.

Mr Pink · **Posted:** May 16th, 2006, 4:53 pm

momsrascal93 wrote:

my freind, bloodfinder1, is becomin a mod in a week!or so i heared.any ways!im gonna no a mod!he will scare away the autoers!!but dont bug him about or u mite make him quit!so dont bug him about it!we need the extra mod!this is the best news ive gotten!we can mine coal at lumby swamp again!!!hurrah!

w00000000t!

He will become a mod not you and he will take care of autoers not you, and how can you prove that you have a mod friend

momsrascal93 · **Posted:** May 18th, 2006, 2:52 pm

he told me he was voted down....wat the heck!? well...a new hope is gone.... I kinda wish they wuld consider me as a mod....did u no they only have 150 mods!? they think thats enough!?they have to be jokin!if there were enough mods, mods wuld be a common sight!!!there most certainly arent enough mods!!!

honestly!no offense to jagex but..all u guys at jagex really need som help!cuz like that rant said,the gravy on the shepard's pie is runnin dry! u guys at jagex are slipping!!!but..there is good news!!! I havent seen one autoer today!

maybe the update worked.for now.....

Alex 43 · **Posted:** May 18th, 2006, 3:23 pm

Where do I start? ...

Ok. Pure Rune Essence idea? Probably one of the cleverest things I've ever seen the Jagex Team pull off. If you're against that idea, either your mining level is below 30 and you don't want to take the time to mine ... how many irons would it take? Or, you're perhaps one of those autoers yourself who makes new characters just to mine rune essense. Besides, so what if they only make elemental runes? I'm a good mining level, and so are the however many in the mining high-scores list, so I don't see why anyone who actually 'play' the game have anything bad to say about it. ... it's either this or level 25 dark wizards attacking people who try to mine it. Take your choice.

The Jagex Team are doing all they can to get rid of them! I know that they are an organization of game makers and such, but what can they do? Ban and delete all the auto-mining sites and programs? I don't think so! The cyber-police can't even scope out and ban all the world's (stuff)sites because there are not only so many, but they also pop up all over the place. There are billions of people in the world who each have the same oppourtunity then the other to pull something like this off.

Yelling about this for every honest player of rsbandb to read about isn't helping matters either. Unless you know a number of autoer-only forums to yell about this in, all it's doing is reminding us just how many greedy ... not to mention lazy people there are out in the world who all start off by looking at an autoer and thinking "Aw man, easy money! This'll be sweet!" and spreading the idea to all those other innocelnt people.

If you don't think you can't do anything about it, think again. Tell people who don't auto that it's bad and spread the message around. The message of autoing got around easy enough, so how hard would it be to contaminate the population with your ideas on how everyone should work together and destroy the ability to auto once and for all?

And to finish off my insights on the ideas, just report all that you see and can confirm are using autoers. The more, the better. And don't tick off player moderators just because you're jealous and want to prove a point. They are regular Runescape players like we are. They just have a few added bonuses to their accounts, like modding an XBOX and playing it online (Not that I'm saying THAT is right either ...). To be honest, I don't care whether or not I'm a player moderator.

I can play Runescape nevertheless, and if I do encounter an autoer mining coal or chopping trees, I'll just mine and chop the same rock and beat him to it after a few rounds of recognizing his pattern. It might even throw the autoer program off, you never know. That's the problem with autoing software. You can think, they can't. You know which rock will spawn coal next and beat them to it, they can't.

In other words, make them wish that they never have started. You can use your mind and the report abuse against them, while they can do nothing to an honest hardworking Runescape player. Take advantage!

... that is all. Thanks for reading.

momsrascal93 · **Posted:** May 19th, 2006, 5:00 am

my mining lvl happens to be 50 and I used to mine coal every saturday until those autoers started switching to mining.so i knew i couldn't get much coal if any at all.did i mention my mining lvl is 50?oh and i made an friend who is a mod!last night!and i didn't see one autoer last night.....yay!

which means i we can mine our coal again

Adbot · **Posted:** May 19th, 2006, 5:00 am

Mckennant · **Posted:** May 19th, 2006, 9:56 pm

i saw 10 aouters at the varrock yew place i reported all of them :lol:

The Haysta · **Posted:** May 19th, 2006, 11:42 pm

ive said this on so many threads.

They should sent a Mod SWAT team to every world, every major autoing spot.

bustyou · **Posted:** May 20th, 2006, 4:35 am

If jagex made something for everyone like everyone who wants to mine coal must be combat 30 or some. Or auto woodcutters can be stopped by having combat 30. when they have to train there combat they need to be mpore atatched to the game so they probably give up. And to stop them from cutting yews is to make axes from steel or higher not tradeable for a level 3 so they cant get the axes. I also think that a tree spirit should cast someway of a bind so they can stop the level 3 from running. I think the best way to stop is that they must have some certain levels before they can do a skill. That would make it harder to auto. And finnaly jagex needs to make some changes to the reporting system now its only possible to report 1 every 60 seconds they should remove that and make it able to report all time. Cause if there are 5 bots you have to wait 5 minutes before next report.

And Jagex should make more work of the trades they make once they found a scammer they should follow his trades and see who has bought or recently has got a load of money from them. maybe they can track the ones who are behind this and ban them.

a good idea is also when you see a scammer you can kill him. This only in some certain areas to prevent everyone from dieing.

Ow here is a picture of them when i saw them you can see only 1/3 of them cause there were like 3 on every spot. Its really strange to see normally it takes a while to cut down a yew but in this case they chopped one down in 2 sec.

MattVortex · **Posted:** May 20th, 2006, 5:08 am

tjbartz2009 wrote:

What kind of "code" do the auto programs use?

Maybe if Jagex knew what type of code it is they can make some kind of firewall that relates with Runescape. And that would clear out a lot of the auto'rs that bought or downloaded the program off the net. But it would leave some because of the people that know how to make the auto program.

I'm not sure if thats possible but its worth a try

Delphi Pascal is quite popular, in terms of programming language. I know someone who used to help code these things, never used them, but he's stopped even helping them now.

Despite the fact Jagex say they find it very easy to find these things, it really isnt. Their applet cant scan whats using the mouse or whatever, its impossible (well, actually it isnt, but to be able to do that Jagex would have to resort to spyware).

The kind of thing jagex relies on is the repetitive clicking on one particular pixel over and over or something like that, but auto-programs get more and more advanced and skip round blocks like that by making it so the auto program uses a small area, just like a real human would, rather than one pixel.

Jagex will never be able to stop the autoer problem, really. Programs just get more and more advanced, skipping past techniques Jagex use and everything.

Pure ess, in my opinion, was a badly thought out idea to control an idea Jagex cant control through programming. Controlling macroers through programming is impossible, because they just update. You need humans to control these things, and human control. Pure ess slowed the macorers a bit, but like always, the programs were just modified to compensate.

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That's the problem with autoing software. You can think, they can't.

Very true. And thats exactly the point. We need HUMANS to stop the autoer problem, not crappy little scraps of code. Gold-crown mods need to be playing more often. We need more p-mods. Abuse reports need to be acted upon immediately.

The Haysta wrote:

They should sent a Mod SWAT team to every world, every major autoing spot.

Exactly.

bustyou · **Posted:** May 20th, 2006, 5:25 am

killing macroers would also be a good idea

Brad · **Posted:** May 20th, 2006, 6:23 am

With the new engine update all java bots are screwed, they won't work now, only the simpler colour pickers will work which means one person can't deploy more than one autoer per computer (since colour pickers need to use your mouse cursor) so until the java bot makes find away around the new engine we should be ok for autoers.

bustyou · **Posted:** May 20th, 2006, 6:51 am

now its only waiting maybe it take a week or 2 to then they are back. Jagex worked a few months on it and they think up something else. they should come with a better idea...

ccll55 · **Posted:** May 22nd, 2006, 2:35 pm

What do you want them to do about it?