yay!!! finally learned html, also some links here =P

Devin · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 1:46 am

withen the past 2 days i tought myself html and some xhtml *not like (or so it seems) theres much of a deference* anyways, heres some stuff u might find usful...

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/xhtml01.php

http://www.w3schools.com/html/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_basic

http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_intro.asp

and heres a little site i made just to test the stuff i learned and for fun...

http://www.freewebs.com/devinmsz/mypage.htm

Adbot · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 1:46 am

khfinalmix · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 1:55 am

no offense but you learned nothing. i learned that so fast. nice links and good beginning webpage

Devin · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 2:45 am

learn nothing? took me forever? thus my eyes decieve me?

by 2 days i ment on the first day i sorta just took a quik look at xhtml link, and on second day i did the tutorial on other site and it took me like an hour, its not like i sat there for 10 hours both days or anything...

and i made that site just to test that i put the coding in right *and to have a little fun*

mabye tomorrow ill make somthing real...

Evelyn · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 9:22 am

Keep going, you'll get something like my page or something better

Dave · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 9:42 am

Oh thanks for the links to the site. I have forgotten most of the html I learned because I never had a chance to use any of it. Mabye now is a good time to learn it again.

Lisaz · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 11:21 am

congrats lerning it

nice job

Adbot · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 11:21 am

Chris · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 11:23 am

And if you ever get into XHTML, you can use this validator to make sure it's 100% correct.

http://validator.w3.org/

Devin · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 11:44 am

thx for the comments ppl....

yeah, i thought id try to learn xhtml first... but then the last site i listed suggested i should know at least basic html b4 i tried xhtml, and i think its prolly better to focus on html anyways... seems more universal...

Chris · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 11:57 am

Well, yes of course. You have to learn HTML before you learn XHTML. XHTML is basically just "fixing up" HTML.

Evelyn · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 12:07 pm

Chris wrote:

And if you ever get into XHTML, you can use this validator to make sure it's 100% correct.

http://validator.w3.org/

I hate those validators, I don't care if my pages don't have a doctype!
It looks wierd if I put the doctype in!

Basically, If you can see it right in IE, then it's fine.

Chris · **Posted:** December 4th, 2005, 12:41 pm

Cliff Dude wrote:

Chris wrote:

And if you ever get into XHTML, you can use this validator to make sure it's 100% correct.

http://validator.w3.org/

I hate those validators, I don't care if my pages don't have a doctype!
It looks wierd if I put the doctype in!

Basically, If you can see it right in IE, then it's fine.

No, it should be more, "If you can see it in Firefox," then it's fine, because IE lets some mistakes go by, whereas Firefox doesnt.

Vity · **Posted:** December 25th, 2005, 3:48 am

Chris wrote:

Cliff Dude wrote:

Chris wrote:

And if you ever get into XHTML, you can use this validator to make sure it's 100% correct.

http://validator.w3.org/

I hate those validators, I don't care if my pages don't have a doctype!
It looks wierd if I put the doctype in!

Basically, If you can see it right in IE, then it's fine.

No, it should be more, "If you can see it in Firefox," then it's fine, because IE lets some mistakes go by, whereas Firefox doesnt.

Yep, because when i was designing my website I saved my buttons as PNG. It looked fine on firefox, but there was white space in IE where transparency should have been

Lisaz · **Posted:** December 25th, 2005, 6:05 am

i dont even understand those html and other things... i never created a webpage by codes and so on

limetang · **Posted:** December 25th, 2005, 1:45 pm

Vity wrote:

Chris wrote:

Cliff Dude wrote:

Chris wrote:

And if you ever get into XHTML, you can use this validator to make sure it's 100% correct.

http://validator.w3.org/

I hate those validators, I don't care if my pages don't have a doctype!
It looks wierd if I put the doctype in!

Basically, If you can see it right in IE, then it's fine.

No, it should be more, "If you can see it in Firefox," then it's fine, because IE lets some mistakes go by, whereas Firefox doesnt.

Yep, because when i was designing my website I saved my buttons as PNG. It looked fine on firefox, but there was white space in IE where transparency should have been

A better way to think of it, would be, 'If my page works on Internet Explorer, Opera and Firefox, then it is fine.' Even though IE doesn't support standards and incorrectly renders websites, most users of Windows tend to use it, thus, a web developer should support it.

Next, a doctype is important to make a page valid! Without a doctype, a validator has no clue of whether a page is or isn't valid, different HTML versions have different specifications. For example, in HTML 4, the target attribute is valid, while in XHTML 1.0 Strict, it is not.

Thirdly, HTML and XHTML are very different languages. Firstly, HTML follows a basic SGML syntax, it also has badly defined standards, this means that pages made in HTML tend to be unsemantic. XHTML, on the other hand, is an XML based application, XML is a much more well formed subset of SGML. As the most common phrase to describe XHTML is, 'a reformulation of HTML in XML.' XHTML is now a W3C recommendation, therefore, it's worth learning.

Lastly, as I have to go, there is no reason whatsoever to learn HTML before XHTML! HTML teaches bad habits which will make XHTML documents invalid. Please, don't learn HTML before XHTML!

Just to add a bit of praise, keep going at those websites, and who knows, maybe one day you could be a master at it. Nice start!

Link of god: http://validator.w3.org/

Devin · **Posted:** December 25th, 2005, 6:17 pm

limetang wrote:

Vity wrote:

Chris wrote:

Cliff Dude wrote:

Chris wrote:

And if you ever get into XHTML, you can use this validator to make sure it's 100% correct.

http://validator.w3.org/

I hate those validators, I don't care if my pages don't have a doctype!
It looks wierd if I put the doctype in!

Basically, If you can see it right in IE, then it's fine.

No, it should be more, "If you can see it in Firefox," then it's fine, because IE lets some mistakes go by, whereas Firefox doesnt.

Yep, because when i was designing my website I saved my buttons as PNG. It looked fine on firefox, but there was white space in IE where transparency should have been

A better way to think of it, would be, 'If my page works on Internet Explorer, Opera and Firefox, then it is fine.' Even though IE doesn't support standards and incorrectly renders websites, most users of Windows tend to use it, thus, a web developer should support it.

Next, a doctype is important to make a page valid! Without a doctype, a validator has no clue of whether a page is or isn't valid, different HTML versions have different specifications. For example, in HTML 4, the target attribute is valid, while in XHTML 1.0 Strict, it is not.

Thirdly, HTML and XHTML are very different languages. Firstly, HTML follows a basic SGML syntax, it also has badly defined standards, this means that pages made in HTML tend to be unsemantic. XHTML, on the other hand, is an XML based application, XML is a much more well formed subset of SGML. As the most common phrase to describe XHTML is, 'a reformulation of HTML in XML.' XHTML is now a W3C recommendation, therefore, it's worth learning.

Lastly, as I have to go, there is no reason whatsoever to learn HTML before XHTML! HTML teaches bad habits which will make XHTML documents invalid. Please, don't learn HTML before XHTML!

Just to add a bit of praise, keep going at those websites, and who knows, maybe one day you could be a master at it. Nice start!

Link of god: http://validator.w3.org/

whoa quite a statement 0.0

anyways this is pretty old, whyd u peeps start posting in it again lol =\