Abortion

Killjoy · **Posted:** May 26th, 2011, 2:41 pm

So we need a good controverial topic.

So what is your opinion of abortion?

I will throw my opinion in later.

Edit: Added a poll.

Adbot · **Posted:** May 26th, 2011, 2:41 pm

wogboykon · **Posted:** May 26th, 2011, 2:46 pm

I'm pro-choice, always have been, and always will be.

Evelyn · **Posted:** May 26th, 2011, 2:47 pm

I say abortion is okay if the pregnancy was a product of rape, if the mother is underage, or if having the child will endanger the mother's life.

Abortion due to poor planning or "I don't want the baby" shouldn't be allowed.

The problem with the pro-choice and pro-life people is that they can't seem to get a middle ground. My opinion is middle ground.

edit: put in my vote for health complications

Warren · **Posted:** May 26th, 2011, 3:20 pm

I think there should be a solid successful adoption program in place (dunno if there is) and that abortions should be discouraged (not as a bad thing though and not consider those who have gone that route horrible people) with adoption being completely viable. And providing counseling for the decision and stuff. But I think there is a place for abortions and it doesn't matter what legally is done about them, they're going to happen. I think it is better to have that adoption program so that it is not always necessary and when they do happen, have them performed safely in a hospital or whatever.
Because you're not aborting a human. You're aborting a bunch of cells with the potential to grow into something. And it's not even like you're sucking the cells out if you're using medication treatment or whatever it is.
Don't like that how about you stop killing things that have actually formed into their potential.

And I don't know how anyone could think a woman could just conceive and abort conceive and abort over and over and not be affected by it. Oh yeah provide counseling afterwards if necessary for if it does happen. Adoption is mentally hard, why would abortion be any easier. But I think the worst thing is keeping the child when circumstances dictate that you shouldn't.

What I don't like though the idea of aborting when a problem is recognized before birth. Though I guess that depends the severity.

1 Stone Pwn · **Posted:** May 26th, 2011, 3:38 pm

I'm pro-choice, but I also support the discouragement campaigns and see abortion as a last resort.

trekkie · **Posted:** May 26th, 2011, 3:58 pm

how about... we stay neutral because not many of us here would ever have to push a parasite out of a small hole. so unless you plan on doing some major organ shifting, or you're not the family or potential father, we shouldn't have a say.

Adbot · **Posted:** May 26th, 2011, 3:58 pm

Shane · **Posted:** May 26th, 2011, 11:10 pm

What does "health complications" mean in your poll? Would rape be included in that?

I am only for allowing abortion in cases of rape or when someone is under the age of consent. Age of consent in Canada is 16, varies by US state. If you are over the age of consent you know what you are doing, there's no excuse to need an abortion.

I would like to see change on this issue here but everyone agreed it was too touchy.

Warren · **Posted:** May 26th, 2011, 11:43 pm

I don't understand why it'd be objectionable to end the possibility of it forming life but then if the mother wasn't old enough to have *** according to a law, well then that changes everything. You cannot set a magical age where one day you don't know what you're doing and then the next you do. Especially if the schools aren't doing *** ed, and before the age of consent.

I don't think punishing people for their errors by throwing a child to take care of is anyway right either. At that point it has formed life, I don't see why the child has to pay for the parents' irresponsibility.

To add on to last post, when I said discouragement but not as a bad thing in my post I couldn't really think of what I wanted to say until after: not discouragement but like making sure all possibilities have been considered and they understand all the choices they have and that kind of stuff.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** May 27th, 2011, 3:58 am

I think it should be encouraged in many cases. And forced in extreme cases.

If your a fat waste of space with 8 kids already none of which you pay for cause the more you squeeze out the more money you get off the government you should be banned from having children because your a **** leech who contributes nothing but more scum to grow up and leech further.

Also if your one of those pikey twats off Jeremy karl you should be forced into adoption/abortion it's terrifying to think of you in charge of a child.

For everyone else though. Totally optional.

ryan1 · **Posted:** June 1st, 2011, 2:13 am

"How can you kill that which has no life?"

Both a quote from a funny South Park episode and totally applicable to the topic. In my opinion, abortions should be allowed for anyone at any time during the pregnancy. The fetus is not conscious, it feels nothing, it has no memories, and it has no sense of identity. It has none of the characteristics which most of us would define as the characteristics of a living human being. I would even go so far as to say that euthanizing an infant is fine for similar reasons (except the moral line as to exactly when the cut off would be becomes a lot blurrier in this area), but I'm generally a misanthrope, and almost no one agrees with me on this last bit.

Pennstate315 · Runite Member 5-25-10

I'm against it, but i'm not going to tell someone they can't do it. I'll let them live their own lives and make their own decisions.

trekkie · **Posted:** June 2nd, 2011, 1:09 am

honestly, unless you're the father of family of the unborn child, you really do not have a say in what they do. making it illegal would mean they would go to other means to terminate the child. no abortion should never be used as a form of birth control, and anybody that has had more than 1 abortion should have their private part sealed shut or the guy becomes a Eunuch.

Evelyn · **Posted:** June 2nd, 2011, 1:33 am

trekkie wrote:

honestly, unless you're the father

Why the father? It's the mother that goes through the burden of having the child. It should be her choice.

trekkie · **Posted:** June 2nd, 2011, 1:39 am

Yeah but as well, the father should also have a say in his child's life.

Sunset Fish · **Posted:** June 6th, 2011, 6:44 pm

I've always said and express myself with that..
If your not old enough to drink.. then your not old enough to care for new life. (forced abortions)

I get a lot of hate from my ideals.. but I love China's 1 child policy and should be adopted everywhere ( with some few flaws fixed )

But 1 thing I don't like.. say China. They are allowed to abort I think it's up to 6 or 7 months.. now even I feel that is wrong.