Pope speech compares atheist 'extremism' with Nazism

Look at that. The aids supporting, pedophile defending, sexist pig of a homophobe nazi himself is calling others nazis. Who let this **** in my country.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11332515

I wont even go into the amount of money spent on him, nevermind those in need lets bring in this ******* to spread his insane beliefs.

Still waiting for him to come to the US so we can citizen arrest his ***, and I don't know why no one there has.

Aside from your ad hominem abusive fallacy, I don't see the association of his statement. First, he states a historical example, but follows with a statement about atheism. He's not comparing the two and calling them similar with regards to what you and are people are thinking. Nazism and atheism seek similar goals. The Nazis sought to eliminate religious freedom and in doing so, ended up killing Jews and other groups because of their various beliefs (although, I would say these reasons aren't justified and weren't necessarily the real reasons for killing all these people). In similarity, atheism seeks to remove God from the picture entirely, thus endangering the beliefs of +3-4 billion plus followers (because Islam and Christianity as a whole factors into this as well as any other religions that accept the existence of God or gods).Thus, the comparison made is approriate. It's not saying atheism is Nazism or vice versa. Nor is it saying they both hold the exact same beliefs. But when it comes to religion, the desire the Nazis sought to eliminate religion is also the same desire or idea behind atheism. And if atheism continues to grow and distort the views we have of humanity, society won't change for the better, but for the worst. That's the argument I believe the pope is trying to make. It's a comparison on beliefs, not an accusation.

Plus you have to remember he is the pope. He's a man all the same, but he is the leader of one of the largest religious in the world. So when you say he is spreading insane beliefs, just remember that those same "insane beliefs" are the beliefs of nearly one billion Catholics. That being said, just because he says something doesn't mean that applies to all those people either. He just represents them.

Also, what if anyone else has said what he said Creepy? What if Obama said it? or the head of the UN? How about the head of Islam? Or Judaism? My point in bring this up is that frankly, it doesn't matter who made the statement. Any person can say the exact same words the pope said. Does it change the argument? In arguing in general, it doesn't matter who the person is who said the statement or what they are like. It's about what is being said, the validity of the statement, and whether its ture or a good comparison. If Hitler said "The earth is round," do we discount his argument because of who he is? No, because the fact of the matter is that the statement is true. It doesn't matter that Hitler said it. It's still a true statement all the same. So don't judge a statement by the person who is saying it. A statement is words with no connection to the speaker. Any person can make any statement. It's the analysis of the statement which matters.

Lastly, don't you think people are smart enough to evaluate what is said Creepy? or do you think the average human in this world is stupid enough to take what is said by the media or other people at face value without critically evaluating for themselves what is being said (similar to what you are doing here)? I tend to think the former is true and that people can decide for themselves what they think of a certain belief and the reasons why they don't like that belief. It's fine to hold your opinions, but I don't see your reasons for your opinions. All you've done is agreed with the article which I don't think has the story entirely accurate. Why don't you provide like I have done a reason why or why not this analysis of what the pope said is true or accurate and the reasons why you accept that besides what you only think of the pope?

This comparison doesn't even come close to being appropriate. The reason that fascist leaders in the past have attempted to eliminate religion is because they saw religions as threats to their political ideologies (how can be loyal to your fascist leader when your ultimate allegiance is to God?). They stifled religion for political reasons, not based on their personal beliefs.

Attempting to eliminate religious freedom isn't even in the same ballpark as trying to rationally convince others that their religion is nonsense. Are there some atheists who, given the power, would take away religious freedom? Probably. Are there many Christians/Muslims/Jews who would gladly rid the world of atheism and opposing views? Definitely. This isn't even a hypothetical. Just look at the Inquisitions, Jihad, etc.. To say that getting rid of religion would be to the detriment of humanity is a huge stretch.

As for the Pope and the context of his message: It's to be expected. Pope man needs his money, and atheists are taking away paying sheep.

To claim that atheism is comparable with Nazism is total hypocrisy, for in doing so he desires to rid the world of atheists. "Endangering the beliefs" of several billion people is only exactly what he himself is doing.

Atheism is in fact its own belief system, and it is not a lack of belief unless you consider that to be directly linked with the beliefs of another - which is again hypocritical even though this has become the generally accepted definition. This is important to remember if you want to consider the arguments of both sides.

Bit gutted this morning when I found out 5 had been arrested for conspiring to do something to the Pope. Best bit is they're all street cleaners and not one of them is British

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11346001

I really detest the Pope, I have nothing against the religion, he's just a complete nob with the most acute views that most of his '4 billion fans' (as advertised on the TV in the UK as part of a campaign for his visit) do not share in the slightest.

I should probably also point out the anniversary of the battle of Britain was a few days ago. It's not likely a coincidence he made this remark. Which is also a real ****** move.

edit: Warren totally just said exactly what i was going to say. Weirdd. ;]

Duke, might I remind you that Creepy has no attention span?

@ Duke - you have 3 people who are against what the pope said. See them.

@ Mage - correct good sir.

@Chris - actually my "small statement" was true. Every word. Do your research if you want back up i cba I figured what i said about him was common knowledge.