You all are gonna hate me...

Yep, I'm about to ask for relationship advice (of sorts). Ok so, since the 4th of July is on a Sunday, my family decided that with everyone's schedules that sunday, we are going to have a cookout for lunch/dinner and have fireworks on the 3rd. Well, there's a girl that I'm interested in and I want to invite her over. However, she has a boyfriend (their relationship is a little rocky so that's why I'm doing this) and I don't want the 4th to end up like New Year's (I invited her over to hang out, and her boyfriend randomly showed up out of freakin' nowhere and completely ruined the evening ). So I'm tossing the idea in my head of whether or not to even invite her over, or if I do, completely forbid her boyfriend from even stepping foot in my front yard. So any advice or ideas for me?

What I am about to say will be a bit harsh, but extremely helpful from personal experience. Don't try to pursue a girl who already has a boyfriend no matter how "rocky" their relationship is. Causing them to break up would be a terrible thing to do and I don't think it's ever wise to jump into assumptions and try to make decisions for them. To save yourself the trouble don't try to start as friends. Simply wait until she becomes single and take off from there.

well im not trying to steal her or really even break them up. i guess the best way to explain what im doing is to say "hey yo, im here in case you didnt know" although that amkes it sound like she wasnt that interested in me to begin with, but i found out she was/kinda still is except when she moved to my school last year i wouldnt talk to her due to...shyness lol

Well if she is interested and might have some feelings for you then she will make the decision herself, but like I said before considering that she already has a boyfriend don't try to get your hopes that much.

Forget about it. Its not worth it. It never worth it no matter how hard you try. Unless you're masochist, give it up while you still can.
Speaking of experience, this situation is lost cause. I'll tell you what happenned. Her boyfriend was a ****, screaming at her, calling her a *****, etc. I told her:

-Listen, I know you're suffering with him. Why are you doing this to yourself, you don't deserve that. Maybe I could help and you could finally be free. It doesn't have to be this way.

She said:

-No *in tears* sorry, but this is too late...I love him too much.


*insert epic way to make the greatest facepalm of all times*


Don't try anything at all if:
-She's a stranger - She won't accept obviously.
-She's your best friend - She only consider you as her best friend.
-She's in the middle - She won't know you enough, so she won't accept.
-She has a *** boyfriend - No matter how much of a ******** he is, she'll love him more than you.
-She's ******** - Thanks to you captain obvious.
-She's the most popular kid in the school - She'll think you're not good enough for her.
-She has an inferiority complex - She'll think she's not good enough for you.
-She is incredibly beautiful - She has a boyfriend
-She is incredibly ugly - You don't want that *thing* to get into your underwears eh?
-She is below your age - Either she'll think you're weird/pedo/scary or all of them.
-She is above your age - She'll think you're too immature.
-She has a fully grown beard/moustache and her name is Roger - It's not a girl.

Things not to do:

-Save her life - Apparently, it doesn't do anything.
-Ask her out in the front of 20+ people - She'll think you're a showoff or an idiot.
-Hesitate to ask her out until you never see her again - There is no worse pain.
-Betray all your friends to show her how committed you are - She'll suddently start to like your friends more than you.
-Don't try to get too befriended with her - She'll only call you her best friend, nothing else.


I could tell you the story of my life for hours and hours again, but it's not a place for that. Try if you really want to but I'm not recommanding it. Relationships are bound to fail.

That's exactly what I was going to say.

well, when me and him are around each other and her for more than about an hour, our "primal instinct" of competition kick in, then she gets ticked at us both lol

I do like your thinking. Tho i suggest you invite them both over and add alcohol to his drink all night. When hes completely wasted start flirting wtih her more and more. He'll get *****, take a swing at you. She'll be HORRIFIED at his actions because your such a nice lad getting him drinks all nice and being all sweet to her.

Then you ask him to leave and he'll be SHUUDDUP U JRKZ so then you turn to her and say "I'm so sorry about this" then nock him on his *** with a right hander and drag him outside. Make sure when you come back in you have a friend conviently standing by to ask you where you was and reply in your most britishy voice ever "Just taking the trash out".

If you do this right she'll be putty in your hands. It's worked for me countless times.

Only in the movies. xD Sure it could pan out that way, but I don't know how the reception would be taken. The kissing part might backfire. And I mean BACKFIRE!!!

Anyways...Discrestion is the better part of valor? I don't know if that helps. I'd say drop it for now. As mentioned before, a boyfriend is a boyfriend, no matter where the relationship is. I would say that if you invited her as a friend rather than as a "date" sort of move, it would play out much better. I'd try to get to know her better before you go after her. You just don't know how the boyfriend and his friends will take it or how the girl and her friends will take it (not that it matters what they think, but you gotta make sure you aren't stepping on everyone's toes). Anyways, advice can only get you so far. It's your call in the end. I'd just think it through before you rush into anything head over heels. Never test water with two feet.