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 Post subject: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 21st, 2009, 1:42 am 
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Please watch all of it before discussing.
I love this video by the way.

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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 21st, 2009, 2:25 am 
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After watching all that, my opinion has not changed.

If anything, my opinion has become stronger.

Obama is not the right person to be President of the United States


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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 21st, 2009, 2:32 am 
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Dudee its an hour long. I'm not going to sit here and watch an hour of idiotic BS patriotism. Write up a summary or something, short paragraph explaining wtf the video is about. Not many are going to watch all that.

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PostPosted: March 21st, 2009, 10:35 am 
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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 21st, 2009, 5:10 pm 
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Dudee its an hour long. I'm not going to sit here and watch an hour of idiotic BS patriotism. Write up a summary or something, short paragraph explaining wtf the video is about. Not many are going to watch all that.

It was actually 2 hours long..
I watched a few minutes of it and I don't see the point. Are they just bashing wall stree executives for being in the government?

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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 21st, 2009, 5:10 pm 
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Interesting video. I only watched about 45 minutes of it but it taught me a quite a bit. and yeah, Obama has definitely lied to get into office.


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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 21st, 2009, 5:15 pm 
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Interesting video. I only watched about 45 minutes of it but it taught me a quite a bit. and yeah, Obama has definitely lied to get into office.

Honestly though, what candidate for president/prime minister hasn't? What lie made him so bad?

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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 21st, 2009, 5:19 pm 
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power crazy wrote:
Interesting video. I only watched about 45 minutes of it but it taught me a quite a bit. and yeah, Obama has definitely lied to get into office.

Honestly though, what candidate for president/prime minister hasn't? What lie made him so bad?

I never said that he was a bad president, I just said that he has already made lies.


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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 21st, 2009, 5:20 pm 
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Thanks for the clarification.

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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2009, 1:53 pm 
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If 'Loose Change' taught us anything it's that long internet films can make illogical and highly unlikely theories seem probable, even though if you stop and think for a minute they can't possibly be.

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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2009, 5:50 pm 
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Look,

Obama is in office, and we weill just have to put up with it for 4 years. If you dont want him to serve another term, Vote against him after his current term ends.

I'm not a voting person, but i do know this much.... Obama has made history and i am proud of what he's accomplished. Now whether or not he lied or didn't lie to get into office, we will never know.....

cheers, dafin0 :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2009, 6:14 pm 
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dafin0 wrote:
Obama is in office, and we weill just have to put up with it for 4 years. If you dont want him to serve another term, Vote against him after his current term ends.:



You should read the declaration of independence and the constitution, the people have the right to protect them self's from the government, we could start the vote to get him out of office tomorrow due to our right to petition for impeachment as citizens. This has never been done but its still a right we have. Also we have the right of revolution buts its a fuzzy area due to the fact our founding fathers used it on Britain which was a monarchy.


No drought every politician is a scum bag liar, but Bamako's main objection is to help is party while he in in power and not help the people, just look at the AIG incidents. His budget is gonna cost us $9,000,000,000 in total debt. Along with all the bailout were in debt for as long as the world turns. Bush had the right state of mind on our economy, its called free market for a reason, let banks go under more will open its called competition. Im not saying Bush did everything right but who ever is our president has to respect the free market.

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you all should really learn your rights...

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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 23rd, 2009, 9:35 am 
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name a politician that has never lied? name a president with the advent of the internet that has not been scrutinized? and honestly, poeople hate him because he's black or still believe he is the anti christ and a muslim

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PostPosted: March 23rd, 2009, 4:52 pm 
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name a politician that has never lied? name a president with the advent of the internet that has not been scrutinized? and honestly, poeople hate him because he's black or still believe he is the anti christ and a muslim

True... politicians aren't exactly known as honest people. After watching most of that it doesn't convince me that the government is all bad. :?


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 Post subject: Re: The Obama Deception
PostPosted: March 27th, 2009, 8:44 am 
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I had a spare afternoon and so decided to watch this. It's very interesting and a little scary, still undecided on whether I buy this or not though. I was dumb enough to believe Loose Change for a while after I watched it and I stand by my earlier statement that films like this can make very persuasive arguments for unlikely events or outcomes.

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After watching all that, my opinion has not changed.

If anything, my opinion has become stronger.

Obama is not the right person to be President of the United States


This films true meaning (if it is true) stretches far beyond Obama, or any other candidate, being the 'right' person. It suggests that every President since Kennedy has marched to the tune that Wallstreet has played. Kennedy being the one that didn't, got himself assassinated. It's much less a damning indictment of Obama and more an argument that the leaders of the western world are just the puppets of the 'ruling elite'.

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