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PostPosted: June 16th, 2007, 11:21 am 
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Music piracy - downloading or sharing music from the internet, without paying it.

The debate is this: Is it wrong? These artists are incredibly rich as it is, usually. Their record labels are even richer, and the RIAA, are richer still. Should they sue people for 'stealing' the odd song?

Extending from this, is DRM a justifiable technology to use?

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Naa. Lets ses how much does it cost to make a CD and package it? Certainly isn't the £10-12 they charge me for an album.

Soon as record companys stop ripping people off then people might start paying. I wont, i'm happy to just "steal" it either way.

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I think it's sharing when you actually use it for your own personal use, but now when you start making copies and try to sell them to make some cash is a different kind of situation which some people abuse.


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Music Piracy is the same as going in a store and stealing an album.


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if you think about it, downloading music is better because instead of having to wait for the cd you get it instantly. also you can pick the song you want, not just buy a cd and only listen to one song.

if the companies would actually keep track of where people are downloading from they can make a lot of money. if they see that a large wave of people start downloading the song in a new area they can throw a concert or something and make more money.
most artist don't really care, it's the record company (and fox) that wants them banned.

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gzpro wrote:
Music Piracy is the same as going in a store and stealing an album.


I'd disagree with that. Stealing said album is wrong - but you are stealing the CD and said CD's case, which is wrong.

Downloading music, though, I dont think that is so wrong. True, the record labels dont get so much money, but it should not be the record labels that get the money. It should be the artists. Have you ever noticed how a book is copyright to the author, not the publisher; but a CD is copyright to the record label, not the artist? Just an interesting fact about the music industry.

I think that music is something that should never be bought or sold, nor should information or fiction or anything like that. The books, as the paper that holds the story, can be sold, just as the CD, as the plastic and metal medium that holds the music, can be sold, but I do not think music or stories or information should ever be sold. Downloading something requires no physical medium, therefore downloading it, in my opinion, can be done.

If I were an artist, and I saw people downloading my music, I would be very happy. I lots of people were downloading my music, it would probably be because of word-of-mouth interest, proving people like the music. That would make me happier than the money.

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What I think-

I don't think that downloading music for free is that big of a deal, but people that upload the music should be punished, if anyone gets punished, instead of the downloader.

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I don't think it's that big of a deal. Music artists, if famous enough,get paid just to show up at a specific location! And if singing doesn't make that much money, be like Hanna Montana and get your own show on disney channel. Baskstreet boys were famous at one time...but they weren't rich beacause they were a lame,lovey-dovey boy band! :lol:

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In any way that it's explained, it's still stealing and, yeah, I realise that. But, I don't really feel bad about it. I think that for a lot of artists, it helps spread their music to a massive audience. For the insanely rich artists who think of this as a "big issue", I think most of them are just out for the money anyway.

I would pay for music if it were DRM-free and I could pay a monthly fee for unlimited downloads. I see that as fair.

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Stealing is stealing. Unfortunately it's so easy to steal music, and 99% of the time there will be no consequence. Why pay for something you can easily get for free with no consequence? I've done it, you've done it, I'm pretty sure we all have done it at some point in our lives.

I hold no grudge against any artist or company for whatever reason they may have for producing and selling music. I have no reason to not pay, other than the fact I don't have to, to get what I want.
Solution? Get rid of what makes it free. =]

But is it wrong?
Yes. Music Piracy is stealing. Stealing is wrong.

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I think a price of a cd is outrageous. The artist stick it to the people for the price of a cd. So i do and will download music the the future. There rich enough.

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The ones that are 10 cents a download I think is really great. You save 14 dollars! (Approx) I think Limewire is a Rip-Off NubCake Production America thing. I mean you get viruses. Its really bad. Same thing with Kazaa and Morpheus, and SoulSeek and Grokster. They all are bad, give you viruses and suck. Plainly there are two ways not to get sued badly and lose. Download 10 Cents a pop, or buy an album. Downloading music is illegal but hey... Go ahead Creepy. If you find it a rip off, good for you you are taking a stand and downloading off limewire :) Its good some1 is. I hate how much they cost.

They got enough gold records, to fix Hurricane Katrina's damage on New Orleans. :roll: A music artist that doesnt donate (other then being too old to) Should rot in heck.


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The truth is that people pirate your music only when it's good. No one's going to pirate some terrible songs. People will buy your music if they think it's good because people like to "own" their own music. (I'm talking adults and people who are really into music.)

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I know people say it is wrong, but I have done it, and probably will do it again. I know people consider it as stealing, but I find that the prices of the CDs are way to high, and they are literally stealing fom us. I know people say it's wrong, but I don't observe it as stealing, I'm not sure why, but I just don't.

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 Post subject: Downloading Music is Legal
PostPosted: July 10th, 2007, 8:30 am 
You can download music. How the hell is it illegal? You pay for the internet and downloading songs are an included feature. People are saying its illegal because they want you to downloiad music on their website. 8)


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