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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on the Republican Party (US)
PostPosted: December 3rd, 2011, 12:16 pm 
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Man, I missed out on all the fun. Well, heres my two cents. I'm not a fan of Obama. If the republicans had a really good candidate to run against Obama. he would get thrashed. The problem is all the candidates have their obvious problems. Even though Obama has been a disaster he very well could win a second term. What I think all the Republican hopefuls need to do is really hone in on the economy. because Obama's record with economy has been extremely poor and he can't run on that. Obama's going to run negative adds consistently on the Republican candidate, so whoever it is needs to be prepared. I just wish Chris Christi would have ran, because he would give Obama a run for his money. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on the Republican Party (US)
PostPosted: December 3rd, 2011, 2:59 pm 
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Man, I missed out on all the fun. Well, heres my two cents. I'm not a fan of Obama. If the republicans had a really good candidate to run against Obama. he would get thrashed. The problem is all the candidates have their obvious problems. Even though Obama has been a disaster he very well could win a second term. What I think all the Republican hopefuls need to do is really hone in on the economy. because Obama's record with economy has been extremely poor and he can't run on that. Obama's going to run negative adds consistently on the Republican candidate, so whoever it is needs to be prepared. I just wish Chris Christi would have ran, because he would give Obama a run for his money. 8)


What is the "disaster" Obama has done to the economy and your solution that these republican candidates have/should have?

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PostPosted: December 3rd, 2011, 3:20 pm 
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Pennstate315 wrote:
Man, I missed out on all the fun. Well, heres my two cents. I'm not a fan of Obama. If the republicans had a really good candidate to run against Obama. he would get thrashed. The problem is all the candidates have their obvious problems. Even though Obama has been a disaster he very well could win a second term. What I think all the Republican hopefuls need to do is really hone in on the economy. because Obama's record with economy has been extremely poor and he can't run on that. Obama's going to run negative adds consistently on the Republican candidate, so whoever it is needs to be prepared. I just wish Chris Christi would have ran, because he would give Obama a run for his money. 8)


What is the "disaster" Obama has done to the economy and your solution that these republican candidates have/should have?


As much as that's an interesting subject, it's not to be discussed here. This has been morphed into a topic on what the issues are with the US political system and how both parties exacerbate the issue.

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The Republican parties candidates are a joke this year. I'd say Ron Paul for the sheer fact of his insane supporters.


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on the Republican Party (US)
PostPosted: December 7th, 2011, 2:34 pm 
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The Republican parties candidates are a joke this year. I'd say Ron Paul for the sheer fact of his insane supporters.


So with that, why Ron Paul compared to the others? How does that show the issue with that party or attempt to solve it?

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Wow, Shane. You sure do know how to open up a can of worms. This thread was fascinating to read. And, I have very mixed feelings about whether or not I should have interjected with my opinions. I have extremely strong viewpoints on the direction this Liberal society has been taking and I have chosen not to interject them here though, as I have very strong opinions that are quite conservative leaning. I already know that if I were to voice my opinions, some people may not like what I have to say.

I have therefore decided to keep my strong friendships alive and flourishing here at the RSBandB community and not say a word. But, I did want to say that I really enjoyed reading everyone's opinions on the matter. Quite an insight, indeed.

Sometimes the wisest thing to say is nothing at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on the Republican Party (US)
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Wow, Shane. You sure do know how to open up a can of worms. This thread was fascinating to read. And, I have very mixed feelings about whether or not I should have interjected with my opinions. I have extremely strong viewpoints on the direction this Liberal society has been taking and I have chosen not to interject them here though, as I have very strong opinions that are quite conservative leaning. I already know that if I were to voice my opinions, some people may not like what I have to say.

I have therefore decided to keep my strong friendships alive and flourishing here at the RSBandB community and not say a word. But, I did want to say that I really enjoyed reading everyone's opinions on the matter. Quite an insight, indeed.

Sometimes the wisest thing to say is nothing at all.


If your fear is that you would lose friends due to your conservative views that isn't something to be ashamed of. If then don't like you because of your point of view then they aren't your friend in the first place. The point of a topic of this is to hold debates (in my opinion). I think it is important to see other views on topics like this. While I am very liberal leaning I still have conservative friends who I constantly have debates with. That doesn't mean that they aren't my friend. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on the Republican Party (US)
PostPosted: December 13th, 2011, 3:49 pm 
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Shane wrote:
Just compare what the British/Canadian system has done to combat the recession compared to the US government. Your system doesn't work. Your economy is still faltering. Our economies have rebounded, our unemployment rates are lower, we didn't need to spend as much on recovery as you guys did.

The point I wanted to get across, to put it simply, is that the checks and balances of your government interfere. We do just fine here with fewer checks and balances. Democracies in Europe get by just fine too. It seems like the US likes to over complicate things. Thus it is your system that is at fault. And if you can't see that because you're trumpeting the constitution and that "separation of powers is necessary to a successful democracy" you're a part of the problem.

Dan, if no one else chimes in here we really should discuss this in another venue.

With that being said does anyone else have ideas on how you could make the system more efficient?


I don't think you can compare the economies of Canada to the US Shane. Our GDP is 14 times larger than yours, making the "system" much harder to control. Although we are a single country, we are made up of 50 states, each with regulations that differ from federal.

To make our system better I have several suggestions:

For health care, people who need federal assistance, must apply to a drug test.
For people applying for unemployment: If it goes longer than x amount of time, issue gov job to receive money.

If an issue cannot be passed and is attempted x amount of times, go to a nation wide vote. I think more nationwide votes need to happen. Then, we can not blame the gov for everything.

Ultimately, I think the two parties need to work more together, which is why I chose to be moderate than label as conservative. Candidates like Perry or Michelle Backman will not work with any democrats.

the health care system needs to be address more, and have a gov ran healthcare system that does not **** off the republicans. We can not pass a bill of this scale behind doors to the public and the opposing party like Obama did. Everything was pretty much a waste of time. It IS going to be repealed and the process will start over.

For Social Security. I want an option to do away with it, and place that money in a 401k. Currently, I have increased my 401k 10% by investing through research. I'd rather have control of my money than trust it to the gov.

Once the economy has be stabilized, make it so banks have to keep more reserve. Currently it is something like less than 10% reserve (means all check able deposits ((money you deposit into your bank) only 10% of that needs to be physically there.) The rest is loaned out, enabling bank to "create" millions of dollars. Why this enables more loans, it also is risky due to people not being able to withdraw the money that was there. (Housing crisis)

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