jointntoday wrote:
i still dont see how someone could hate a group of people, thats not even hurting that person, enough to take away their rights.
i dis like people who wear pants 5 sizes to big, but even if i was given the chance i wouldnt take away their right to do so.
For the hundredth time...
WE DO NOT HATE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ***!!! We disagree with what they
do and find it wrong. I find it to be antiproductive for society and quite frankly degrading to the human genome. Now, once again...
I DO NOT HATE *** PEOPLE! Hell, i'm a musician in Theater and i'm in the Music Combo for a Show Choir. I'm surrounded by *** people. If I hated them I doubt I'd be doing what I'm doing. I'm perfectly fine with the people. I'm simply against the act of being ***. That's what we're arguing about, not the people...the act.
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it being "unatural" means nothing, driveing a car is unatural but millons of people do it everyday. ( so is flying in a plane, or rideing in a train...)
useing makeup or hair spray is unatural but millons of people do it everyday.
wearing clothes is unatural but if everyone stopped i bet ya wouldnt be so happy about it.
The only thing mentioned that is truly unnatural is the driving of cars. However, that isn't even unnatural either.
-Monkeys in forests swing from vines to travel quicker. So, they use tools found in their environment to travel. We used minerals and coal to create a device that allows for faster travel. We're doing the exact same thing monkeys are. I bet they would use cars, too, if their brain was large enough to find a way to make them.
-Certain species of birds and monkeys (lol, monkeys are about the most advanced species out there...) have been observed putting dirt and mashing berries against themselves to make them appear vibrate and colorful. They used this to appeal to the other ***. Isn't that what make-up is for? People put on make-up to look better, and in the end to attract the other ***? So make-up, too, is natural.
-Wearing clothes is simply a form of shelter. The only function of clothes is to provide cover from wind, rain, and the elements. Over the years we've stylized clothes appeal, once again, to the other ***, but the function remains the same. So now, cloths are natural in two ways. 1) to attract the other ***, and 2) to provide shelter.
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most laws are set for safty (not all, i know). like speed limits, seat belt laws, anti murder laws etc etc
just being *** isnt hurting anyone or makeing them less safe. so why does it matter? theres tons and tons of *** people, haveing *** ***...and doing *** things but i dont think (i may be wrong...) that just being *** has ever hurt or killed anyone.
not only that, i, like most citizens have no control over laws. **most** laws are not voted on by the public but just set by the governmet.
but most (not all i know...) *** rights laws have been voted on by the public ( IE prop8 ) so it was the public that forced their veiws on gays by voteing on, and setting that/those law(s).
Yes, most laws are made for safety. But what kind of safety? The answer is every kind of safety. Physical safety, economic safety, emotional safety...
Although being *** hasn't physically hurt anyone, I can assure you that emotionally it has caused more pain than most gang bangs or robberies. *** people are "sad" because they can't be MARRIED. However, people like me find it emotionally and psychologically disturbing to see somebody being *** in public. It goes against my nature, and my beliefs. Thus, although they don't physically harm me, they are hurting me in some sense. So, *** rights laws would provide my emotional and psychological safety.
I know you'll probably say "Well, they would also prohibit *** people from feeling emotional security in society. Thus, the laws would be hurting them in the same sense they would be helping you."
Yes, that's true. But *** people are the minority. You will never see a law helping the minority in a situation like this. They will ALWAYS benefit the majority of the
nation. Thus, prop8 was right in my eyes. The state shouldn't forget the majority of it's people in trying to please the minority.