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On a most of the videos there are not any clear markings.

By Officials I ment the FBI and such, and why would a demolition crew be there anyway?

No one was told what the 'renovations' were, and it was down systematically through the entire building.

The WTC were apparently ment to withstand a plane crashing into them, if not you would still get more fire on one side than the latter causing the steel structure to only give way on one half.

Typo, D'oh. Anyway, I know the B-52's stats.


Jet fuel is a Hydrocarbon with a maximum burning point of around 2000F or 990C.

If your understanding of chemistry is rudimentary I suggest you read this;

http://guardian.150m.com/wtc/how-hot.htm


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On a most of the videos there are not any clear markings.

By Officials I ment the FBI and such, and why would a demolition crew be there anyway?

No one was told what the 'renovations' were, and it was down systematically through the entire building.

The WTC were apparently ment to withstand a plane crashing into them, if not you would still get more fire on one side than the latter causing the steel structure to only give way on one half.

Typo, D'oh. Anyway, I know the B-52's stats.


Jet fuel is a Hydrocarbon with a maximum burning point of around 2000F or 990C.

If your understanding of chemistry is rudimentary I suggest you read this;

http://guardian.150m.com/wtc/how-hot.htm



I dont need a chemist to tell me what fire burns at, they do there test in labs. Ive seen fire bend steal without jet fuel. Take a fire, limit its oxygen and it will get small and hot.

Demo crews were there to assist firefighter, tons and tons of rubble had to be removed to get to the basements to find people.

No the WTC was not ment to withstand a hit by a plane. Winds, constant wind. Not 60tons hiting it at one...

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There was not limited oxygen in the WTC.

For a period of time only government officials, FBI and Demolition crews were allowed on site.

Watch at 36:40 of Loose Change.

It was overdesigned to withstand almost anything, including hurricanes, high winds, bombings 'and an airplane hitting it.'


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No the WTC was not ment to withstand a hit by a plane. Winds, constant wind. Not 60tons hiting it at one...


The builders said it was able to be hit by a plane.

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Kyle wrote:

No the WTC was not ment to withstand a hit by a plane. Winds, constant wind. Not 60tons hiting it at one...


The builders said it was able to be hit by a plane.

Remember:

If you're not the majority, you're wrong.



Please UMD, explain how WTC was not able to be hit by a plane, it was one of the tallest buildings in NYC.

If your not the majority your wrong? Yeah...ill leave it along, dont whanna an offical.

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Kyle wrote:
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Kyle wrote:

No the WTC was not ment to withstand a hit by a plane. Winds, constant wind. Not 60tons hiting it at one...


The builders said it was able to be hit by a plane.

Remember:

If you're not the majority, you're wrong.



Please UMD, explain how WTC was not able to be hit by a plane, it was one of the tallest buildings in NYC.

If your not the majority your wrong? Yeah...ill leave it along, dont whanna an offical.


I meant it could withstand it.

That sames to be the idea.

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Rubbish to be honest, just some guys with to much time on there hands.


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...People who believe this are typically people who don't think rationally.

America is a very proud nation, I have serious doubts that they would kill hundreds of their own people, to start a war. Their economy was also damaged, however slightly, by the loss of the WTC buildings. America tends to only do things for a profit... (UMD: which there was)


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There is no reason that America would kill 3,000 of its own people to incite a war. If they really wanted a war, they probably would have staged something with many less casualties or none. And if you would know the news, you would know that right now almost all America hates this war, and we don't want to be there (this includes many politicians in the government you claim was behind it). The government did not have a "conspiracy" to hit the WTC or the Pentagon.

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ryan1 wrote:
There is no reason that America would kill 3,000 of its own people to incite a war. If they really wanted a war, they probably would have staged something with many less casualties or none. And if you would know the news, you would know that right now almost all America hates this war, and we don't want to be there (this includes many politicians in the government you claim was behind it). The government did not have a "conspiracy" to hit the WTC or the Pentagon.


Wars kill many more than 3,000 people.

Where is your proof that there was no conspiracy?


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http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=1

There is your proof. Honestly, I've wasted my time watching that Loose Change. First, I want to know why people would want to believe this stupid kid over scientists and officials. But I suppose there will always be radicals who *must* believe these stupid theories.

Here is another page, less scientific but still a good argument.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons


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Anyone who takes anything Maddox says seriously needs to be shot, Lol.

I know it's rather off topic but it's kinda related to what Chris posted.

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Anyone who takes anything Maddox says seriously needs to be shot, Lol.

I know it's rather off topic but it's kinda related to what Chris posted.

Someone writing an article about using your common sense should be shot? XD

Frankly, I never believed that stupid conspiracy theory even before I read Maddox.

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There is no reason that America would kill 3,000 of its own people to incite a war. If they really wanted a war, they probably would have staged something with many less casualties or none. And if you would know the news, you would know that right now almost all America hates this war, and we don't want to be there (this includes many politicians in the government you claim was behind it). The government did not have a "conspiracy" to hit the WTC or the Pentagon.


Wars kill many more than 3,000 people.

Where is your proof that there was no conspiracy?


You can't prove that something doesn't exist. :)

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Chris, good links but niether answers all the questions surrounding both terrorism acts and one question, do you believe in god?

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Anyone who takes anything Maddox says seriously needs to be shot, Lol.

I know it's rather off topic but it's kinda related to what Chris posted.

Someone writing an article about using your common sense should be shot? XD

Frankly, I never believed that stupid conspiracy theory even before I read Maddox.


I honestly don't see why so many people worship the guy. I've always viewed his site as a place where people are told things they should already know. As you put it, common sense. Should we really need to go read Maddox just to learn what common sense is? I don't think so. But anyway I'm seriously digressing so I'll just leave this now.

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Brad wrote:
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Anyone who takes anything Maddox says seriously needs to be shot, Lol.

I know it's rather off topic but it's kinda related to what Chris posted.

Someone writing an article about using your common sense should be shot? XD

Frankly, I never believed that stupid conspiracy theory even before I read Maddox.


I honestly don't see why so many people worship the guy. I've always viewed his site as a place where people are told things they should already know. As you put it, common sense. Should we really need to go read Maddox just to learn what common sense is? I don't think so. But anyway I'm seriously digressing so I'll just leave this now.

Well, most people read it because it's funny. If you don't find it funny, then your sense of humour is just different.

Honestly, anyone who gives the US government THAT much credit for conspiring to do the 9/11 attacks doesn't have common sense to begin with.

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