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 Post subject: What Regular People Think of Runescape
PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 2:00 pm 
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Here is a great video about what regular people (gamers and not gamers) think about RS3 and Old School runescape. What do you guys think of this? Do you agree?


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 Post subject: Re: What Regular People Think of Runescape
PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 5:58 pm 
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Killjoy wrote:
Here is a great video about what regular people (gamers and not gamers) think about RS3 and Old School runescape. What do you guys think of this? Do you agree?

Everyone seemed to hate the new interface, I can't exactly say I am surprised and I completely agree. I could possibly see myself playing EoC semi-seriously with the old interface like it was in the EoC Beta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYzMtW2jarE) but I can't really play the game in any major capacity with the new interface. It really is one of the worst interfaces I have used in my life out of any game/program. Things that used to be quick and easy to find (like your current gear stats) required me to ask people in the chat because I couldn't find it after minutes of searching.

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 Post subject: Re: What Regular People Think of Runescape
PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 11:00 pm 
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I agree, the interface could use some different icons to show what they are suppose to be. being more streamlined would be helpful for new players.

I still remember when it first came out i couldn't find anything.

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 Post subject: Re: What Regular People Think of Runescape
PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 11:36 pm 
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The ribbon will be tweaked later this month.

Read:
http://services.runescape.com/m=news/a= ... -scenes---march-2014

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 Post subject: Re: What Regular People Think of Runescape
PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 11:41 pm 
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yes shane I remember reading that, but it seems with the beta and the many 11 year old rants on the forum, something should have happened a long time ago.

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 Post subject: Re: What Regular People Think of Runescape
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Shane wrote:
The ribbon will be tweaked later this month.

Read:
http://services.runescape.com/m=news/a= ... -scenes---march-2014

They just need to have an option for the old interface style period. The current interface feels horribly claustrophobic because it goes over the actual game window and takes up a horrendous amount of space, also re-sizing the game window (which everyone does) is a total joke because the interfaces do not automatically scale. And no I do not have claustrophobia but that's how poorly the interface is designed.

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 Post subject: Re: What Regular People Think of Runescape
PostPosted: March 6th, 2014, 10:00 am 
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Throughout watching this video, I was forming my own opinions about what each person was saying. At the end, however, the host pretty much wrapped all of my thoughts up. I think it goes to show that most of us veterans share the same opinions about the current game state without whining and complaining all over the RSOF. Here are some of my opinions on the whole subject though.

Side note: I wasn't a fan of Rupert. Getting a veteran WoW player into RS is like trying to sell a Toyota Corolla to an Audi fanboy. That's just the way they think. I have a couple maxed characters on WoW and quite a few of my real life friends played pretty hardcore. Notably, I have a friend that was ranked in top tier world PvP and was friends with some of the world's best Arena players, was top Diamond tier in Starcraft, and competed in Dota tournaments. Every time I got on WoW to play and mentioned RS he took every opportunity to bash it and ask if it was still that ******* point and click combat trade-off game. Not to say Rupert's opinion doesn't matter, but it should be taken with a grain of salt because he had quite the "gaming elitist" background (if you will). Battlefield, WoW, CoD, etc.

I think the age group really did play a significant role because they all analyzed it way more than I did when I started in 6th grade (college graduate now) but the opinions are still valid. If certain components are confusing for 4th year university students then there is no way they would make sense to a 10-15 year old.


GRAPHICS:
I think this was the biggest area they were a little too harsh on. I absolutely love the graphics, lighting, etc. Yes, it is a little too bright and colorful but everything to do with models and lighting is perfect where it is. I think they kept forgetting that RS is a browser game. Not something you spend 2 hours installing on your computer only to find that there's 3 hours of patches that have to be applied. Given the perspective the graphics are great, but they just need to be toned down a few steps color-wise.

MUSIC:
This shouldn't be a huge factor to worry about since most people that play (new and old) listen to their own music. I used to listen to the old MIDI tracks when I started back in 2004-2006, but that didn't ultimately deter or attract me to/from the game. The full scores that released with RS3 were kind of necessary otherwise the old MIDI tracks would have dated the new interface and gameplay and would have felt very unbalanced. Overall, leave the music how it is. The iconic tracks and melodies are still there. They're just "HD".

INTERFACE:
One of the biggest gripes of mine and of everyone probably. This needs to change the most and I'm glad they are taking steps to finally address this. The ribbon customization being released this month will be a giant step forward in my opinion. I'll be honest. The new interface system deterred ME (an 8 year veteran at the time) and I actually ended up taking a ~2 month break after RS3 was released. It seriously took me about 20 min to even find where to change my chat settings. They did a poor job categorizing windows together and I believe they could do a better job consolidating and organizing. The cleaner and simpler the interface, the easier it will be to keep new players (and old) interested.

Suggestion: Make a single "MENU" button. This button will open up a larger version of the Treasure Key/Bond/SGS/Membership window and provide access to every tab or window currently scattered across 5 different buttons. Of course the player is still able to drag and drop windows, but the consolidation of all window into the same space will make it less confusing and virtually fool-proof.

COMBAT:
He really hit the nail on the head about making "Legacy Mode" the default mode for RS3. I originally thought, along with many other players, that Legacy Mode should only be available to accounts created prior to November 2012. While that keeps the veteran "Legacy" alive it also creates a huge barrier for new players. Call "Legacy Mode" something like "Default Mode" and then have "Evolution Mode."

OVERALL:
I really like the way he worded his wrap-up. Veterans are the grandparents of RS. Most of us are focused on trying to stay elite over new players, but that pretty much numbers RS's days. If we want to continue to play this game and possibly have a game that our children can grow up playing, as we did, we need to make sure the game is accessible as ever. The new tutorial needs to either be scrapped or reworked completely because it is absolutely horrible. Last time I completed it, it was like a pathetic attempt at a quest trying to weave a story into you baking a loaf of bread or burying bones. I'm sorry but RS was never popular for story. New players see that and are deterred because the tutorial is so lame and cartoon-y. It doesn't really tell you how to play the game. It doesn't really tell you that the higher levels you get, the cooler things you can do. It doesn't encourage that. I remember back in 2004 I left Tutorial Island and went straight to the Varrock mines because I wanted to train Mining to mine new types of ore and sell them. New players just think RS is a series of dumb *** quests with a horribly confusing interface and combat system. My girlfriend actually created an account a couple of months ago but quit playing out of frustration and confusion. It was so fluffed up with crap that I couldn't even help her or tell her what to do over the phone. They need to scrap Ashdale, and just have an area like Tutorial Island (rest it's soul) with all the F2P tutors. Heaven forbid resurrect Tutorial Island.

TL;DR -> see OVERALL

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 Post subject: Re: What Regular People Think of Runescape
PostPosted: April 1st, 2014, 12:57 am 
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The interface is a valiant effort, but to this day, many months after the release of RS3, it still is just to jumbled up and a wreck.
What I feel needs to happen is an interface tutorial. it could simply be added into the start-up tutorial as the player is learning the controls. Or after Ashdale, the tutorial eases up but offers help as players are given further help like the objective system.


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 Post subject: Re: What Regular People Think of Runescape
PostPosted: April 1st, 2014, 10:41 am 
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I just saw some old videos of the old runescape and I find the old version much better.


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