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 Post subject: saradomin sword: the king of the worthless.
PostPosted: March 26th, 2008, 3:30 pm 
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hey all, i'd like to argue a point.

lots of people seem to like the saradomin sword. it strong, fast, trains strength, has a good special attack... generally a good weapon. right? well i'd like to say its all a load of ****. there is nothing good about the saradomin sword. fact. and now i'll prove it.

things people usually say to defend the saradomin sword:

the saradomin sword is better than a whip: false

here's a stat comparison for the whip and saradomin sword:click

basically they are the same weapon, but here's the kicker. the saradomin sword is 2 handed, so youget no shield. if you like offense, you can use a rune defender and be 19 points more accurate, and 5 more strength with a whip, instead of the shield-less saradomin sword.

the saradomin sword has a good special attack: true

yes, its special attack is good, but one thing you're missing is that the dragon dagger, longsword, and mace all have good specials too, and 4 of them, not just one. at 99 strenght in the best gear you can imagine, you can literally 1hko any player with a lucky hit from the dds. scary? yes. true? yes. th edragon mace can hit upwards of 60, and the d long upwards of 55, more accurately than mace i might add, but this isnt' mace bashing, this is sara sword bashing. it is true that in the best gear, you can hit 45+ with a sara sword, but seing as i don't know the max hit of the special attack, i cannot tell you what the overall max is. (if you hit with the spec you get 2 hits)

edit: the special adds a magic attack dealing 5-15 damage in adition to your normal attack. this does not increase as your magic or any other level increases. it also has a chance of splashing, and dealing no damage. however, i've observed that what you hit with the magic attack refletcts the damage of the melee attack that turn. usually if you splash you'll hit 0 with the melee part, and if you get a 15 you hit closer to your max hit. so indeed its special attack is decent. but seing as you'll most likley be in melee gear with a negative magic attack bonus, it doesn't serve well for the saradomin sword's special attack.

sara sword's good special attack: dismissed


the saradomin sword has agressive strength training, you can't do that on a whip!

this also is true, but theres one thing they're missing. in a tournament or pking, training strenght doesn't matter.what matters is hitting hard and fast, thus a whip is better than a saradomin sword could ever be. if you insist on training strength with a good weapon, why not use a dragon longsword or scimitar with a rune defender?

69 slash 71 strength on dragon longsword, add the defender its 88 slash 76 strength. slightly weaker, more accurate, but slightly slower, yet with, as said earlier, one of the best special attacks of all dragon weapons.
67 slash 66 strength on dragon scimitar, add the defender its 86 slash and 71 strength, you'll hit at most 3 less damage then you would with a saradomin sword, hit at the same speed, and be slightly more accurate.


tell me, what do you think? is it worth paying 12m for a weapon constantly going down in price that is proved obsolete by gear thats requires 10 less attack anyway? talk about an lol.

so you're still unconvinced? you like your sara sword so much? i've got a better weapon for you. guaranteed. barrelchest anchor. 92 crush, yes crush, not slash, and 100 strength. attack speed is the same as a dragon longsword, barrows weapons, and the godsword. its special is 50% drain and doubles your chances of hitting. crush is the weakest defense of all melee armours. thus you have a great chance of hitting in the first place for a far more powerful weapon. it also can lower defense with its special, not by much, but if you hit well, its enough. oh and guess what... IT TRAINS STRENGTH. and its only 230k to get it, and its price will never go down because its not tradeable.

there you have it. evidence of the saradomin sword's failure, successfull alternatives. now discuss. thanks

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 Post subject: Re: saradomin sword: the king of the worthless.
PostPosted: March 26th, 2008, 5:13 pm 
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Those are all good points and I had no idea sara sword was same exact stats as whip except for some crush. Waste of cash for sure.

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 Post subject: Re: saradomin sword: the king of the worthless.
PostPosted: March 26th, 2008, 5:21 pm 
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SS is marginally better than scimmy and defender for training. Marginally ,nowhere near worth the price tag.

the only good use for SS is waterfiend killing (better than godswords, anchor, flail, guthans, about equal to zam spear).

So yeah, it's pretty much rubbish. I think the main reason for sales is people who can't afford a GS and want something flashy, but with gs prices beign a lot cheaper now we migth see less, and they will become more worthless. It's really not worth it.

The spec is a waste of space, because you can just switch to dirt cheap dds spec.


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 Post subject: Re: saradomin sword: the king of the worthless.
PostPosted: March 26th, 2008, 8:37 pm 
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I think the Saradomin sword's more for show, and a weapon available to those who like collecting Saradomin stuff. Part of a set, if you get my meaning. Swinging that thing in full Saradomin runite armor and Saradomin cape gives the impression of holiness.

Well, I don't disregard that as stupid, as I'm Saradominist myself, but you get the idea.

Plus, you sort of cut yourself away at one of the good points that you "didn't know", so that's giving an unfair argument against the Saradomin sword.

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PostPosted: March 26th, 2008, 11:30 pm 
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Alex 43 wrote:
I think the Saradomin sword's more for show, and a weapon available to those who like collecting Saradomin stuff. Part of a set, if you get my meaning. Swinging that thing in full Saradomin runite armor and Saradomin cape gives the impression of holiness.

Well, I don't disregard that as stupid, as I'm Saradominist myself, but you get the idea.

Plus, you sort of cut yourself away at one of the good points that you "didn't know", so that's giving an unfair argument against the Saradomin sword.



one quick trip to the manual shows the saradomin sword special deals 5-15 points of magic damage as a bolt of lightning. magic damage means it can splash. i'll add this into my first post. sorry alex, but i'm more credible than you think :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: saradomin sword: the king of the worthless.
PostPosted: March 27th, 2008, 8:28 am 
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Well, even though it can "splash", we're still looking at a prime "protect from melee" foil at Castle Wars. That one hit can potentially decide who wins and loses a game.

Not just that, but one can even use it against the Kalphite Queen form 2 for a couple of extra hits, or anything weaker to magic like demons.

I'm not trying to throw off your argument, I'm just stating that the Saradomin Sword isn't the *does sign language* "king" of worthless. I mean, look at javelins, for instance. Slow, hard to hit, and not even a special for the runite ones.

Still, I agree. You are more credible then you seem. I can tell you did your research. I'm just an adamantite suit of armor with a fancy spear and an opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: saradomin sword: the king of the worthless.
PostPosted: March 28th, 2008, 12:45 pm 
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lol, its the "king" of worthless because has the highest cost for something with little use. you'd waste 13m buying a sara sword. although i will admit javalins are pretty bad >.> you'd think jagex would make each ranged item have some advantages of their own. thrown axes are pretty low on the food chain too, as well as most weapons not in the mainstream. i've never seen anyone use a shortsword before, nor claws other than rune. :P

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 Post subject: Re: saradomin sword: the king of the worthless.
PostPosted: March 28th, 2008, 1:54 pm 
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I realised the saradomin sword was bad after actually buying and testing one out when it was worth 22m. I sold it within two days and lost a million or two.

If I was ever to spend over 20m on a weapon it would be on a godsword, or whatever the so-called best is at that time. until then, I'll use my whip. :)

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PostPosted: March 29th, 2008, 5:37 pm 
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So basically my 99 mage does nothing? Such a shame because if mage level would change the special damage, it would be an interesting hybrid weapon.

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