I don't talk, does that make me a macroer?

Pat · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 12:06 am

One thing that really annoys me is when I'm woodcutting or mining or fishing or something and people try to get me to talk to prove I'm not autoing. I know they're just trying to make sure they're not being cheated out of their logs or whatever by a rulebreaker, but this still really irritates me. Especially when morons say I am (am, not might be) an autoer just because I don't feel like talking to them.

Never mind that someone likely asked the exact same question ("l13k, wc lvl plz!!1") about five seconds ago, and I grudgingly answered.

Never mind that I'm still here after last week's mass ban. If I really did auto, I wouldn't be here right now.

Never mind that nowhere in the Runescape rules does it state that I have to answer stupid, pointless questions, or that I have to answer when some random person I don't know says hi to me, or that I have to sell someone my rune axe just because they "really need it".

Never mind that there's a feature called "public chat" that could be set to "friends" or "off" if the game's general population is really getting on your nerves that day. It's drastic, but people do it. I've done it from time to time when I'm in a really bad mood. If I have public chat off, I can't even hear people let alone reply to them. It certainly doesn't automatically mean I'm an autoer.

Never mind that I could be (and probably am) doing something on another screen; I could be doing my homework, browsing a forum, looking up on the high scores how close I've come to catching my friend in a certain stat, or something like that. If this is the case, I probably won't even notice someone talking to me at first. I certainly won't reply immediately, even if the other person expects me to for some reason. But this doesn't make me an autoer, and no one ever said multitasking was illegal.

Yes, I know the easiest thing to do is to just reply and avoid creating a problem. But what if, because of one of the above situations, I don't? Does that mean I deserve to be judged as an autoer?

Should people who don't talk be liable to be accused of autoing?

and for all you people ranting about lvl 3 or 4s with 80+ fishing/wcing.

they apply to this also.

Adbot · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 12:06 am

Flare_Ember · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 12:53 am

Rant/10

Two thumbs up anyway.

Mushroom Queen · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 1:32 am

There's a simple solution to this: don't worry about it. Jagex knows if you're macro-ing or not and that's all that matters.

Anubis · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 1:52 am

I never talked in runescape.

I made my friends in my first 40 combat levels, and my friendslist and public chat have been set to friends since *-)

If I dont want to talk to a person who constantly asks questions he/she can find the answer to elsewhere - they cant stop me.

Dave · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 7:48 am

I have worried about this in the past before, but its not really that big of a deal. Jagex does have te ability to tell really easily if you are macroing or not. Just becuase you are at the trees and you talk to no one doesn't mean that you are autoing. Often when I go to the fishing guild I will put my public chat to friends because of the stupid conversations that go on in the guild. All you need to know is that if you are not autoing they will not detect you.

Lord Zamorak · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 7:57 am

They think the same about me when I don't do anything about there trade rewuests for free stuff. Now it's on off though.

Adbot · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 7:57 am

xOhYax · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 9:02 am

I know i hate this to, when im alching and people ask my mage lvl....

TheMothAssassin · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 9:03 am

The fools. Woodcutting and tree regrowth times are random. How do you make a macro for that?

Xbladez · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 9:55 am

Mushroom Queen wrote:

There's a simple solution to this: don't worry about it. Jagex knows if you're macro-ing or not and that's all that matters.

^best advice to be given on the matter^

if ur just not in a talkative mood, like some people do tend to be at times(meself included) you dont have to talk to other people. jagex can tell the differences most of the time, tho if u constantly leave your public and private both set to off they might get a lil suspicious of you after a few days tho as long as your not using any 3rd party software your safe and shouldn't be worried about minor things like that.
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TheMothAssassin wrote:

The fools. Woodcutting and tree regrowth times are random. How do you make a macro for that?

huh? who are you calling a fool the people making the macro's or jagex?

yes tree regrowth and such things is randomised a bit but most macro's have a seeking function to find what ever they are made to find and gather.
example: wear a black wizards top and hat near some coal miners and see how many move to try and mine you sometime at the major mining areas.

Christopher · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 3:23 pm

thorny wrote:

One thing that really annoys me is when I'm woodcutting or mining or fishing or something and people try to get me to talk to prove I'm not autoing. I know they're just trying to make sure they're not being cheated out of their logs or whatever by a rulebreaker, but this still really irritates me. Especially when morons say I am (am, not might be) an autoer just because I don't feel like talking to them.

Never mind that someone likely asked the exact same question ("l13k, wc lvl plz!!1") about five seconds ago, and I grudgingly answered.

Never mind that I'm still here after last week's mass ban. If I really did auto, I wouldn't be here right now.

Never mind that nowhere in the Runescape rules does it state that I have to answer stupid, pointless questions, or that I have to answer when some random person I don't know says hi to me, or that I have to sell someone my rune axe just because they "really need it".

Never mind that there's a feature called "public chat" that could be set to "friends" or "off" if the game's general population is really getting on your nerves that day. It's drastic, but people do it. I've done it from time to time when I'm in a really bad mood. If I have public chat off, I can't even hear people let alone reply to them. It certainly doesn't automatically mean I'm an autoer.

Never mind that I could be (and probably am) doing something on another screen; I could be doing my homework, browsing a forum, looking up on the high scores how close I've come to catching my friend in a certain stat, or something like that. If this is the case, I probably won't even notice someone talking to me at first. I certainly won't reply immediately, even if the other person expects me to for some reason. But this doesn't make me an autoer, and no one ever said multitasking was illegal.

Yes, I know the easiest thing to do is to just reply and avoid creating a problem. But what if, because of one of the above situations, I don't? Does that mean I deserve to be judged as an autoer?

Should people who don't talk be liable to be accused of autoing?

and for all you people ranting about lvl 3 or 4s with 80+ fishing/wcing.

they apply to this also.

It is in my opinion pretty easy to tell an autoer. The run in set patterns, stand next to trees that aren't there instead of going to a good tree, they will only harvest from two...sometimes three trees, but most of all they will never...ever the north tree in draynor forest.

Why is this? If the macroer was to complete his round on the north tree the fastest way back would be right throught the jail. This has lvl 26 guards that can kill a lvl 3 or 4 in two hits. So those are the way I tell. I suppose the talking thing might not work, but I myself never get bored of responding proudly how high my woodcutting lvl is. Why do you think I play runescape? Also, Jagex, I'm pretty sure has no real clue who is macroing part time. If they did they would have banned a 100,000 not 15k.

Plus just because you have a high post count on this site doesn't make you trustworthy. There are tons of scammers, macroers, and hackers on this very forum. Don't believe me? How do you think they find out about your bank...your stats, and you skills. I don't trust anyone here. You guys all act like your good buddies buddies here, but what is to say that the people who have been hacked on here weren't hacked by members they knew and trusted? I don't believe sob stories about getting hacked. There are a million ways to reduce the chances. I suppose once in a blue moon someone who has a bank pin, pasword, doesn't share with friends, doesn't use macros, and generally stays fairly annonomius does get hacked. But it is a rare, rare occation. Most people that have been hacked fill one of the above catagories.

Btw I am currently watching an autoer. He is moving between the middle and southern trees in Draynor only. He waits at empty trees while others are obviously open. He delays before cutting a tree...for the same amount of time...everytime, and even though I've talked to him several times he hasn't responded. The bot is a lvl 5 with 81 woodcutting. Funny thing is I saw this bot a few days ago and reported him...he had lvl 75 woodcutting then. Funny how six woodcutting lvls in two days would take oh 48 hours! (okay maybe not but he has obviously been on for a while, I'm about to use the rubber chicken. lol) So before you go spouting off again...I don't just report people blindly. It is one hello fo a coincidence if that guy isn't a bot!

Mckennant · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 5:01 pm

No that dose ont make u a aouter...i hate it when pepoel try to get you to talk ...u caould say hi back?

Anubis · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 5:08 pm

who needs an auto for fishing and woocutting anyway? Youre basically standing in the same spot.

I swear..
If someone is a 'pure' something. Theyre an autoer.
If someone doesnt talk to a group of 12yr olds - theyre an autoer.
If someone types fast - Theyre an autoer
If you stay at a tree after it has been chopped down, waiting for it to respawn while other wcers go to find another one - you're an autoer.
If you are on forums and dont notice someone trading you - You're an autoer.

Honestly... Autoers have never affected the way I play. If a person decides to make a program to become 'richer' than me. So what? Its unfair that he or she has more gold than me? Its unfair that they did so much without trying? Yes, thats right, but how does that affect me?

I played the game without cheats, without breaking rules. I got what I wanted, I didnt need something to move my mouse for me. I dont think there is any point in playing a game, if youre not actually going to play it.

They can't play the game - thats why they auto.
We can play the game - thats why we dont. ;-)

Has an autoer EVER affected what you do ingame? I doubt it...

Pat · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 6:55 pm

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Plus just because you have a high post count on this site doesn't make you trustworthy. There are tons of scammers, macroers, and hackers on this very forum. Don't believe me? How do you think they find out about your bank...your stats, and you skills. I don't trust anyone here. You guys all act like your good buddies buddies here, but what is to say that the people who have been hacked on here weren't hacked by members they knew and trusted? I don't believe sob stories about getting hacked. There are a million ways to reduce the chances. I suppose once in a blue moon someone who has a bank pin, pasword, doesn't share with friends, doesn't use macros, and generally stays fairly annonomius does get hacked. But it is a rare, rare occation. Most people that have been hacked fill one of the above catagories.

never hacked, scammed once, but that was when i was low lvl. besides, why would i hack? i'm perfectly content with what i have right now.

Christopher · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 7:01 pm

Anubis wrote:

Has an autoer EVER affected what you do ingame? I doubt it...

You would be completely and utterly wrong. Lets say I have to compete against five autoers for a yew tree. How hard is it going to be to fill up my inventory? How hard is it going to be to meet goals? A hell of a lot harder! I don't know how much woodcutting you've ever done, but having to cut against five people and no one can be a difference of an hour or two in completing a small goal. This is the same argument with steroids in baseball. Steriods don't hurt anybody indirectly, but the more people that do them the harder it is for the people who don't to compete. So everyone if they want to compete has to take the steroids. Same idea in runescape. The more bots the harder and more patience it takes to do a skill because you competing with things that don't need patience. So if I want to legitimately raise my skill it becomes hard and harder and harder. I eventually have to either leave runescape or get a bot myself...see the pattern. So to answer your question it has effected me and out of game as I see my time as valuable and I don't want to see some lazy 12 year old who can download virus ridden crap on to his computer take all the wood while I'm sitting here waisting my time while I have homework and other assignments to do. Maybe you guys who are in middle school and highs school who get by with easy b's and c's and don't take hard classes don't understand this...but us college students know time doesn't go on trees and we get ***** off when someone cheats and increases the amount of work we hav to put into something!:x

Btw what is your rsn I can't find it anubis.

Mushroom Queen · **Posted:** January 27th, 2006, 8:50 pm

The fact is, no matter how insignificant it seems that someone uses a WC autoer or farming autoer, it throws the game off-balance as a whole. And this is the main reason why it's banned. It creates an unfair advantage no matter if 1 person is doing it or 1,000 people are. There really isn't a lot you can do about it except report or terrorise them with a rubber chicken.. :lol: