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- If someone has stars appear five times in a minuete the game should auto mute them for 10 mins.


Um, I think not. Maybe if Jagex's system actually blocked swear words, then I'd think about it. But muting merchanters because they are trying to say "and 1k please"? No way.

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Ok i have made a list of things that need to be changed as jagex has no clue what so ever lets hope they read this!

- Protection prayers need to be moved up to a level between 50-70 i AM NOT a pker but i dam well disagree a level 60 should get an easy run from a level 100 because he has a measly level 40 prayer.

- Mining needs to give high levels a chance to beat low levels. Random is pathetic i am sick of being beat by a level freakin 40 miner.

- Money is far to easy to make now. Stop realising good armor and weapons and making them stupidly easly to get - people should WORK for there money.

- Remove the luck system. It's pathetic.

- Increase magic logs and sharks time by how high a level you are so it is AT LEAST noticable claiming it does is stupid and i don't believe you.

- Ban people.

- If someone has stars appear five times in a minuete the game should auto mute them for 10 mins.

- Sort out the forums - they suck. Worst forums i've ever seen.

- Stop bringing out god dam weapons and armor..jesus what about those of us that don't particuly care about pking or melee?

- Put some variety in your quests. "go here - get this - get back here - kill that - well done here have a useless 5k exp"

- Stop catering for low levels.

- Put up a links page on your main site intitled "games better then runescape" so the next time and there will be a next time you decide to kiss low levels feet i can leave and take my money else were.


Okay, here we go, in order. Brace yourself. :twisted:

Prayer: Leave it the way it is. The majority of this rant of yours is anti-PK in basis, yet this suggestion is geared toward PKers. If you want to change prayer, add more prayers beyond 43. What kind exactly, I don't know, and I'm not going to wrack my last 3 functional brain cells to come up with them right now.

Mining: Agreed. I especially hate the "ha ha noob!!" crap you get when some twit 20 levels lower comes along and one-hits the rock you've been hacking at for 15 or 20 seconds. It's ridiculous.

Money: I must have missed the part where money is too easy to make. I have a helluva time making money. Sure, there are level 3's walking around with phats. Good for them. If they want to dedicate themselves to acquiring a piece of paper to adorn their heads, more power to 'em. My whole mission in RS life is to be able to acquire the best things that--GASP!--will actually have an effect on my game play. Armor, weapons, runes. These things I will spend money on. A piece of colored paper? Pfffffffff.

Luck: Absolutely agreed. Kinda goes along with the mining thing. I'm killing Fire Giants for hours with nothing better than a rune scimmy to show for my efforts, and some halfwit wanders in and gets a d med on his first drop? Either I have the worst luck ever, or my ring of wealth is defective. Remove the luck system. Make a set number of kills for certani items. Say 10,000 kills for a dragon drop. That's 10,000 consecutive kills. Not kill 30, go kill lessers for a day or two, come back and kill 40 more. You leave the area, you start over. Simple, no?

Magic logs and sharks: YES!!!! I can watch an entire episode of a show in the time it takes to get one freaking load of sharks. I understand that they're supposed to be harder to get. But isn't it half the point that it's hard as hell to get to 76 fishing anyway? Do they really need to be obnoxiously slow?

Banning: Bah, that's too easy. They'll never do it, and we all know why. The power of the almighty dollar. Unless they catch someone freebasing Bob they really don't give a rat's posterior, as long as their membership payments are on time.

Stars: Disagree, because not only does the retarded censor block out words that it shouldn't, half the time it also blocks out whatever you're trying to say instead of what it originally blocked out to begin with. It's almost impossible to carry on a decent conversation with someone anymore. Unless someone comes out with an "English to Asterisk" dictionary, or Jagex actually programs their chat filter to not be quite so Rain Man like, muting people for having their chat starred 5 times is overkill.

Forums: Agreed. They're absurdly difficult to navigate, and God help you if you're trying to track down a specific topic. It's a little like trying to rollerskate uphill on ice.

Weapons/Armor: Agreed, in part. I like the idea that they're creating a little variety in weapons and armor, but the fact that all the specials and protections are geared directly towards PKers is irritating. I don't PK. So it stands to reason that I'm not going to care if my new weapon can drain my target's prayer to 0 instantly. How on earth is that going to benefit me training on black demons? The game isn't PKScape.

Quests: God, yes! Honestly, the whole "fetch, kill, fetch, reward" formula is tired. I actually liked the Recruitment Drive quest, despite how easy it was. Why? Because, instead of "fetch, kill, lather, rinse, repeat," it was original. A series of challenges and puzzles. I like that. Just don't incorporate the sliding block puzzles. I can't do those to save my life.

Catering: Well, they do need to pay some attention to the lower levels, otherwise they'll lose interest quickly. But they shouldn't get the majority of the attention. If they have nothing to work towards, they're going to lose interest just as quickly. Some kind of balance has to be found here. Which, of course, means it won't happen. They can't balance the PK triangle. What makes us think they can balance their updates?

Links: LOL! I like it, but I seriously doubt it'll happen. I would laugh my big flabby rear end off though if they did. :lol:

There. Now that wasn't so painful, was it?

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PostPosted: July 3rd, 2005, 6:10 pm 
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There. Now that wasn't so painful, was it?


Nope it wasn't. And I agreed with you on most of them too. I think rs needs to take a trip to the makeover mage.

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I disagree with the ones that is bad for medium players and good for the high levels.
You want to change it so high level won't be owned? Mining will always win? Woodcutting will always get the logs?
No, I don't want that.

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You want to change it so high level won't be owned? Mining will always win? Woodcutting will always get the logs?
No, I don't want that.


No, we just want it so, in short, a person who's spent more time dedicated to a specific activity, be it combat, mining, etc. will be given a better chance than a person who hasn't put *as* much time.

This mainly refers to say if a level 70 miner and a level 55 miner both hit a mithril rock, the level 70 has a statisticly better chance at getting the ore, rather than the level 50 just got the lucky number out of the random number draw.

I took a computer science class this previous school semester, in which I learned a little Java. The programming language of Runescape. One of the things I learned about are random number programs. I also learned that you can set up these random number programs so that they'll pull a random number, but from a set range. I would say that with every level it should look kind of like this:

level 55 miner: numbers 1-44
level 70 miner: numbers 1-29

If the number lands 1, the person gets the ore, thus the person with the smaller range has a better chance of getting the ore. This would of course be relative to the ore being mined, the pick used, and the person's level.

Yeah I know, a bit complicated.
But that's the only way I do things :roll:

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- Protection prayers need to be moved up to a level between 50-70 i AM NOT a pker but i dam well disagree a level 60 should get an easy run from a level 100 because he has a measly level 40 prayer.


That, I agree with. Not entireley though.
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- Mining needs to give high levels a chance to beat low levels. Random is pathetic i am sick of being beat by a level freakin 40 miner.


Disagree, those miners have worked hard, and hard. They probably really like mining, so they got it up. JaGex can't do that just because a level 40 miner has a higher mining level.

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- Money is far to easy to make now. Stop realising good armor and weapons and making them stupidly easly to get - people should WORK for there money.


People do work for thier money. With the exception of the fat, retarded, overweight scammers in Runescape.

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- Remove the luck system. It's pathetic.

May I ask how?

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- Increase magic logs and sharks time by how high a level you are so it is AT LEAST noticable claiming it does is stupid and i don't believe you.


Um, in english please?

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- Ban people.


They do. Go to the forums, watch scammers, watch them get in trouble, then ask the mod how they dealed with it.

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- If someone has stars appear five times in a minuete the game should auto mute them for 10 mins.


I agree with that. Pretty good idea.
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- Sort out the forums - they suck. Worst forums i've ever seen.


JaGex can't do everything they want the players to do in a snap, give em' a break, they've been working hard enough bringing out Slayer, Farming, and Carpentry.

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- Stop bringing out god dam weapons and armor..jesus what about those of us that don't particuly care about pking or melee?


JaGex said they would give other people who like range or mage armor and weaps, and they have. Karil's Set, and Ahrim Set, but yeah, I agree with you they should bring out more than one range and mage set.

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- Put some variety in your quests. "go here - get this - get back here - kill that - well done here have a useless 5k exp"


Storyline, buddy, thats what they're there for.

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- Stop catering for low levels.


Again, may I ask how their doing this?

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- Put up a links page on your main site intitled "games better then runescape" so the next time and there will be a next time you decide to kiss low levels feet i can leave and take my money else were.


Don't complain that you feel like they're not catering to just you. They got tons of more customers than just 1.


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Allow me to clarify a few things.

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Disagree, those miners have worked hard, and hard. They probably really like mining, so they got it up. JaGex can't do that just because a level 40 miner has a higher mining level.

He's saying he thinks a person with lower mining than him should have a
worse chance than he does. Your statement doesn't make any sense.
And the idea of mining is that the higher the level, the better chance
you have of getitng the ore, not because you like it
(for most of the RS population anyway).
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People do work for thier money. With the exception of the fat, retarded, overweight scammers in Runescape.

Mainly pointed towards the merchants of RS,
at least in my interpretation.
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May I ask how?

Referring to how the ring of wealth and such is supposed to raise
"luck" of getting rare drops. The change isn't that noticable though.
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Um, in english please?

Increase the rate at which you get sharks and Magic logs so that it
more noticably increases with each increase in level. The rate increase
now is so small that it can hardly be seen.
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They do. Go to the forums, watch scammers, watch them get in trouble, then ask the mod how they dealed with it.

Not in refence to the forums, but in the game. I reported one guy
several times (not all at once) over the course of the day for trying to
trim peoples armor. Know what? Saw him the next day, he didn't
even remember me.
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Storyline, buddy, thats what they're there for.

More options in the quest please, like I said, branching story lines.
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Again, may I ask how their doing this?

They're changing quite a few things lately because of numerous
complaints of "this is too hard" and "I can't do this". I haven't
seen one hard thing since Barrows, before that Desert Treasure.
This latest quest? No reals skills involved, other than puzzle abilities.
They promised hard and challenging puzzles, I wasn't that challeneged.
Perhaps a quest that has skill based puzzles? As in if you're crafting
is high, a crafting-based puzzle?
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Don't complain that you feel like they're not catering to just you. They got tons of more customers than just 1.

You don't know Creepy... :roll:
He does speak for alot of the higher leveled
players in the game though.

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Ok i have made a list of things that need to be changed as jagex has no clue what so ever lets hope they read this!

- Protection prayers need to be moved up to a level between 50-70 i AM NOT a pker but i dam well disagree a level 60 should get an easy run from a level 100 because he has a measly level 40 prayer.

- Mining needs to give high levels a chance to beat low levels. Random is pathetic i am sick of being beat by a level freakin 40 miner.

- Money is far to easy to make now. Stop realising good armor and weapons and making them stupidly easly to get - people should WORK for there money.

- Remove the luck system. It's pathetic.

- Increase magic logs and sharks time by how high a level you are so it is AT LEAST noticable claiming it does is stupid and i don't believe you.

- Ban people.

- If someone has stars appear five times in a minuete the game should auto mute them for 10 mins.

- Sort out the forums - they suck. Worst forums i've ever seen.

- Stop bringing out god dam weapons and armor..jesus what about those of us that don't particuly care about pking or melee?

- Put some variety in your quests. "go here - get this - get back here - kill that - well done here have a useless 5k exp"

- Stop catering for low levels.

- Put up a links page on your main site intitled "games better then runescape" so the next time and there will be a next time you decide to kiss low levels feet i can leave and take my money else were.


I pretty much agree with everything here, again though, except for the mute one, the sensor is.... bad, lol, it wouldn't work, everybody wont be able to talk! Also ban peopl, its not exactly difficult to tell whos autoing!

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o.0 Thanks for covering tylon. :P

I'm not trying to turn this into a high level game. I'm trying to get jagex to turn there dam system back to rsc. It worked! And guess what? The game was a lot nicer then! Why was it nicer? Because idiots would quit within a week after realizing you have to work to get advantages (shock horror) so we didn't get complete MORONS with fifty mining going "haha u noob i beat u!!!11".

You have NO idea how irritatingly annoying that is. And im not the type to get annoyed over a word like noob but once i've spent up to four years getting my mining level it is SLIGHTLY annoying that when rs2 came out they threw the old system out the window and screwed over anyone with a level 50 stat. If i could transfer my account back to rsc and keep all the work i've put into it i sure as hell would. And i KNOW a lot of other people would as well.


Still negative on the muting eh? It's only 10 mins...and they would have to do it 10 times...i don't get why that's so bad but er ok, ignore that one. :P

Ignore the prayer one to - wasn't that well thought out on my part.

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creepybacon wrote:
Ok i have made a list of things that need to be changed as jagex has no clue what so ever lets hope they read this!

- Protection prayers need to be moved up to a level between 50-70 i AM NOT a pker but i dam well disagree a level 60 should get an easy run from a level 100 because he has a measly level 40 prayer.

- Mining needs to give high levels a chance to beat low levels. Random is pathetic i am sick of being beat by a level freakin 40 miner.

- Money is far to easy to make now. Stop realising good armor and weapons and making them stupidly easly to get - people should WORK for there money.

- Remove the luck system. It's pathetic.

- Increase magic logs and sharks time by how high a level you are so it is AT LEAST noticable claiming it does is stupid and i don't believe you.

- Ban people.

- If someone has stars appear five times in a minuete the game should auto mute them for 10 mins.

- Sort out the forums - they suck. Worst forums i've ever seen.

- Stop bringing out god dam weapons and armor..jesus what about those of us that don't particuly care about pking or melee?

- Put some variety in your quests. "go here - get this - get back here - kill that - well done here have a useless 5k exp"

- Stop catering for low levels.

- Put up a links page on your main site intitled "games better then runescape" so the next time and there will be a next time you decide to kiss low levels feet i can leave and take my money else were.


well heres what i agree with..

- Protection prayers need to be moved up to a level between 50-70 i AM NOT a pker but i dam well disagree a level 60 should get an easy run from a level 100 because he has a measly level 40 prayer.
hmm no..i think the prayer lvl is fair enough..it takes forever to get it that high just from burying bones and not buying anything to help and usually low levels are too lazy to make an effort to get it that high.

- Mining needs to give high levels a chance to beat low levels. Random is pathetic i am sick of being beat by a level freakin 40 miner.
Totally agree! im sick of being a lvl 85 and getting beated by lvl 60s..unfair.

- Money is far to easy to make now. Stop realising good armor and weapons and making them stupidly easly to get - people should WORK for there money
Too true. Maybe the armor and rares are a little too expensive at the moment due to the inflation but before that they were high enough that people had to work for a while to be able to afford them. if you want something thats rare or hard to get then it shouldnt be hopelessly easy to obtain.

- Remove the luck system. It's pathetic.
Amen to that! WHERES MY MIME!!

- Increase magic logs and sharks time by how high a level you are so it is AT LEAST noticable claiming it does is stupid and i don't believe you.
mm wouldnt know cos im F2P but i have fished for sharks before and it didnt actually take that long to get each shark..roughly 30 seconds each with a lvl 89 fisher :?

- Ban people
As far as i knew they did. but i think they should start getting their facts straight and amking sure they are banning the right person for the right reasons and then ban them properly..none of this 24 hours banning etc. its just retarded.

- If someone has stars appear five times in a minuete the game should auto mute them for 10 mins.
No way. maybe if the stupid censor on the game actually worked then i would consider itbut since it definatly doesnt then no. then again it does get annoying when its clear to people that whatever they are trying to type isnt going to work..then they keep typing it another billion times to to double check that maybe their eyes arent working proply..euhh!

- Sort out the forums - they suck. Worst forums i've ever seen.
Again wouldnt know..im F2P..but hey if they suck..they suck.

- Stop bringing out god dam weapons and armor..jesus what about those of us that don't particuly care about pking or melee?
heh heh..i like the new weapons and armor 8)

- Put some variety in your quests. "go here - get this - get back here - kill that - well done here have a useless 5k exp"
What other varitey can there be? i mean thats sort of the whole point of a quest to go and get something. i mean if theres nothing to get..why make a quest about it and why do it? its not like they are going to give you a reward for going from one side of the game to the other

- Stop catering for low levels
again couldnt agree more. whats the deal with making everything suddenly easier just because a couple of lvl 3's started to have a cry?? whats the point of continuing playing the game for higher lvls if theres no challenge left?

- Put up a links page on your main site intitled "games better then runescape" so the next time and there will be a next time you decide to kiss low levels feet i can leave and take my money else were
lmao..id **** myself if they actually did do that!


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I find it ever so funny, there are alot of these "how jagex can make the game better" threads in almost every runescape forum you see, well here's the facts

~The game is still very playable, at peak times over 120,000 people are online so they're can't be that much wrong with it

~Jagex are free to update the game as they wish, they may make some bad decisions (female look for example) but these are soon fixed and other updates that are met with disapproval (Slayer), well you don't see mass numbers of people quitting because of it do you?

~The Game isn't perfect it's not possible, Jagex cannot monitor what every person Say's and cannot listen to every suggestion and even if they do they don't have to like it or take any notice of it, we pay membership (well most of us) we don't own the company

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Most of these suggestions are pretty good, and i think they would help byut some of them.......not so much, RuneScape is starting to go downhill, some of these suggestions would help, but others would push it down the hill....

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