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 Post subject: Benefits in RS (PROVE SLIMPPU WRONG)
PostPosted: July 14th, 2008, 6:26 pm 
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Slimppu: I need more money than that
Slimppu: :(
The l33t Winner of USOUD: L00l
Slimppu: Butler payments take a few millions
Slimppu: Let's say then that I need 100m
Slimppu: And when I'm 99
Slimppu: I need like 20m more
Slimppu: To make a fancy house
The l33t Winner of USOUD: l000l
Slimppu: What are you l000ling about
The l33t Winner of USOUD: construction
The l33t Winner of USOUD: spend the money on something more useful like prayer xD
Slimppu: I thought you needed money in KoL as well, mr. "lost 80% of bets"
Slimppu: Construction = Win
The l33t Winner of USOUD: construction = lightly disguised EPIC MONEY SINK
Slimppu: Prayer takes even more money than that. O.o
The l33t Winner of USOUD: so
Slimppu: And besides
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Prayer is useful
The l33t Winner of USOUD: xD
Slimppu: Useful?
Slimppu: It's a game.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: useful in the game
Slimppu: What is "useful" in RS is just another word for "making game easier and therefore more enjoyable after all the work"
Slimppu: What if my enjoyment in RS is construction? How is it not "useful" then?
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Well enjoy spending money on fewer game benefits then
The l33t Winner of USOUD: :P
Slimppu: Like I said, Prayer is more expensive. xD
The l33t Winner of USOUD: xD
Slimppu: And it's hardly a "benefit" after whatever is the highest level prayer
Slimppu: What's the use in "game benefit"
The l33t Winner of USOUD: I didn't want an essay D:
The l33t Winner of USOUD: But prayer is more useful to runescape players than a house that is there mostly for decoration
Slimppu: Go on, "newspaper staff is cool" boy.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: IT IS
Slimppu: Prayer is more useful to what now?
Slimppu: Yay, you got more prayer points. Congratulations, you can keep your prayers on a few seconds longer.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: more prayers and more prayer points to help you fight st0f
Slimppu: What use is fighting stuff?
The l33t Winner of USOUD: well if you just want to skill then a house could be more useful to you, mr. HIGHER COMBAT LEVEL THAN ME THEREFORE YOU DO CARE ABOUT FIGHTING STUFF
The l33t Winner of USOUD: or possibly spending it on logs for fletching or essence for runecrafting
Slimppu: Fletching is for noobs
Slimppu: Runecrafting is too boring
Slimppu: Construction is unique!
The l33t Winner of USOUD: So you'd rather look at decorations that you spent millions on
The l33t Winner of USOUD: instead of having a new skill xD
Slimppu: So you'd rather do whatever you do in RS?
Slimppu: What do you do in RS anyway?
The l33t Winner of USOUD: at the moment I'm burning out in a competition
The l33t Winner of USOUD: xD
The l33t Winner of USOUD: fletching
The l33t Winner of USOUD: I do pretty much everything
Slimppu: What's the use in Fletching
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Making bows
The l33t Winner of USOUD: ;D
Slimppu: It doesn't even give decorations. IT DOESN'T GIVE ANYTHING AT ALL.
Slimppu: Except skill.
Slimppu: Way to go, talking about "benefits" and choosing to train fletching
Slimppu: Actually
Slimppu: Name a skill that has benefits on level 99
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Post a thread in rs general about it and I think most people will agree with me
The l33t Winner of USOUD: xD
The l33t Winner of USOUD: SMITHING
The l33t Winner of USOUD: something else you could spend money on
Slimppu: Because I'm thinking that Construction is one of the only skills that has content on level 99.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Rune platebodieeeeees
Slimppu: RUNE PLATEBODIESS
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Which done things
Slimppu: Huzzah!
The l33t Winner of USOUD: do
The l33t Winner of USOUD: ...Wtf
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Why in the world did I type done
The l33t Winner of USOUD: xD
Slimppu: The materials cost nearly as much as platebodies
The l33t Winner of USOUD: IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE ABOUT THIS POST A THREAD ABOUT IT IN GENERAL RS DISCUSSION
The l33t Winner of USOUD: AND YOU'LL SEE I THINK PEOPLE WILL AGREE WITH MY SIDE
The l33t Winner of USOUD: XD
Slimppu: You started arguing.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: I made a statement of opinion and you turned it into arguing
Slimppu: And you'll continue arguing, or you'll quit and become a loser.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: :P
Slimppu: Arguments ARE statements of opinion, you silly Dan.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Arguments to me involve people going back and forth trying to prove a point that their statement of opinion is correct
The l33t Winner of USOUD: I just said it
The l33t Winner of USOUD: xD
Slimppu: To you, maybe.
Slimppu: But your opinion hardly makes any difference.
Slimppu: So
Slimppu: Back to the topic
Slimppu: What is a benefit to you in RS?
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The l33t Winner of USOUD: /faceaplm
The l33t Winner of USOUD: /facepalm
Slimppu: LOL
The l33t Winner of USOUD: :(
Slimppu: But do tell.
Slimppu: I'm curious.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: I consider a benefit to be something that I can use to explore new areas, do more skill related things, and fight new monsters
Slimppu: Does prayer give you that?
Slimppu: Does fletching give you that?
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Fighting new monsters
Slimppu: You can fight any monster with Protect prayers.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Fletching used to be moneymaking which could give you access to new stuff
The l33t Winner of USOUD: With the prices bouncing all over now, not as much
The l33t Winner of USOUD: You say you can fight any monster with protect prayers, but could someone with 43 prayer run in and do an effective barrows run? no
The l33t Winner of USOUD: he'd have to bring lots of prayer potions
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Which would cost money and lots of inventory space
The l33t Winner of USOUD: So he'd have less food
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Which would keep him from doing effective barrows
Slimppu: Food isn't important in Barrows
The l33t Winner of USOUD: So you can run in with 5 sharks and the rest prayer potions and still come out fine?
The l33t Winner of USOUD: :o
Slimppu: I can run in with 5 sharks and 3 and a half prayer potions and be just fine, yes.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: The benefit of higher prayer is less prayer potions, which = more money making if that's what you choose to do by monster fighting
Slimppu: What benefit is money
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Do they have a debate class at your school?
The l33t Winner of USOUD: If they do you should be in it
The l33t Winner of USOUD: xD
Slimppu: They definitely should >:(
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Back on topic, money helps you buy things like ores for smithing, logs for fletching, weapons or runes for combat
Slimppu: You can mine ores. You can cut logs. You can make weapons. You can craft runes.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: But it is a benefit if you can buy them instead if you wish to, since that makes it faster and easier
Slimppu: "Money got from not buying prayer potions" doesn't quite make it.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: It's not just the absence of having to buy prayer potions
The l33t Winner of USOUD: you could stay in (example: barrows or god wars dungeon) longer snice you can carry more food and less prayer potions
The l33t Winner of USOUD: Which can equal more loot
The l33t Winner of USOUD: And more skill training if that's what you are doing
Slimppu: You don't gain any damage with prayers on, so food is merely useless
Slimppu: So in the end, despite your prayer level, you'll always bring the same amount of prayer potions.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: I AM MAKING A THREAD IN GENERAL RS DISCUSSION
The l33t Winner of USOUD: xD
Slimppu: About what?
The l33t Winner of USOUD: This whole thing since my knowledge isn't as strong as that of a person that frequently does god wars etc.
Slimppu: Whatever
Slimppu: Don't expect me to go there
The l33t Winner of USOUD: :P
Slimppu: You're going totally off-topic
The l33t Winner of USOUD: No u
Slimppu: You don't need to spend any money on prayer potions either.
The l33t Winner of USOUD: If you have a lower prayer level you need more prayer potions
The l33t Winner of USOUD: If a person with 99 prayer goes into barrows for an hour
The l33t Winner of USOUD: and a person with 43 prayer goes into barrows for an hour
The l33t Winner of USOUD: The person with 43 prayer will need a lot more prayer potions to keep prayer going
Slimppu: A person with 99 prayer has spent so much money on training that the 3 prayer potions he'll spare per a whatever run is going to be beneficial after what, 1000 runs?
Slimppu: More than 1000.
Slimppu: The person will have died to boredom before that happens.
Slimppu: So case closed. Prayer is useless.

L33t Winner of USOUD is me, by the way.

So, who agrees with me (Basically, that prayer and other skills hold more benefits for the RS player than construction) and who agrees with Slimppu (who says that prayer is useless and the money is better spent on construction)?

Or possibly there could be someone who agrees with both of us.

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PostPosted: July 14th, 2008, 6:26 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Benefits in RS (PROVE SLIMPPU WRONG)
PostPosted: July 14th, 2008, 9:28 pm 
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Wow I can't believe I just read all this ...

I think it's two different opinions of useful - something that you enjoy and want to do, and something that the majority of the RS population has benefited from. I could see it either way - if Slimmpu wants an awesome house, go for it. Won't get him anywhere in terms of fletching or prayer, but as long as he enjoys doing it, more power to him.

Construction obviously isn't a skill that makes money though, but spending on it is his choice :P Prayer has its advantages ... fletching ... not so much other than bows and arrows ... meh, people can sink money into any skill as long as they enjoy the game doing it.

Note: it's 11:28, I've been up 17 hours, kinda tired here :P

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 Post subject: Re: Benefits in RS (PROVE SLIMPPU WRONG)
PostPosted: July 15th, 2008, 4:29 am 
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I'd say Prayer is more useful.

As you can't do many quests without it.

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 Post subject: Re: Benefits in RS (PROVE SLIMPPU WRONG)
PostPosted: July 15th, 2008, 5:05 am 
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Ditto. On the other hand, and I'm not indirectly flaming, Slimppu does have a tendancy to shun everything he's not interested in at the time. So take no notice of it.

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 Post subject: Re: Benefits in RS (PROVE SLIMPPU WRONG)
PostPosted: July 16th, 2008, 8:27 am 
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As far as 99 skills are concerned, rs pretty much makes you do repetitive things until you reach your goal, similar to the boredom we call school where they teach same **** over and over again.

In the end we all feel proud and feel we accomplished something after getting 99 in any skill (except cooking or fletching and the like) just like we feel pleased after we put in effort in other stuff like life itself.


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Slimppu: Name a skill that has benefits on level 99


combat 99s for gwd and pvp
99 agility for energy and stuff
99 slaye--- meh 90 is enough

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Slimppu: I thought you needed money in KoL as well, mr. "lost 80% of bets"


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 Post subject: Re: Benefits in RS (PROVE SLIMPPU WRONG)
PostPosted: July 16th, 2008, 1:50 pm 
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Slimppu: Name a skill that has benefits on level 99


Smithing - Make Rune Platebodies, Platelegs, Plateskirts and 2 handed swords
Runecrafting - Make 10x airs
Summoning - Steel Titan, Dragon pet
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 Post subject: Re: Benefits in RS (PROVE SLIMPPU WRONG)
PostPosted: July 18th, 2008, 10:13 am 
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I don't have to read the whole thing to state my opinion. I spend all my money on construction and gather the bones myself for prayer. This was, I train both. Slowly, but that's better then just having level 99, where there no longer is any challenge to it.

Personally, I like construction, and you can use it with other players. Prayer, however, is a self-inflicting thing. Depending on rather you like yourself more than society, prayer and construction stand as equals in my book.

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 Post subject: Re: Benefits in RS (PROVE SLIMPPU WRONG)
PostPosted: July 18th, 2008, 4:34 pm 
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Prayer is better. After gilded altars, construction loses all possibility of value. Construction is nothing but an EPIC MONEY SINK (not even lightly guised tbh).

Slimppu's retort to this was that Prayer costs more. This may be true, but prayer is not a 'money sink' because the money stays with the players, while money to construction goes back into the game.

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