02 April 2012 - Squeal of Fortune – Extra Spins

Shane · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 2:50 am

RuneScape.com wrote:

There are new ways to earn additional, free spins through playing RuneScape:

Being a RuneScape subscriber is another great way to get more chances to win. Members get 2 free daily spins rather than just 1, and have exclusive access to the D&Ds listed above. Also, members have access to 182 great quests!

If you require more spins, or simply prefer to save some time, you can purchase various spin packages. to do this, simply click the "buy spins" button within the Squeal of Fortune interface.

Finally, soon you will also be able to earn free Squeal spins as rewards for completing any quests. The team are working hard on this feature, and we expect to be able to provide it to you before the end of April.

When you spin the Squeal of Fortune, your free, daily spins will be used first, following by the spins you earned through RuneScape gameplay. Finally, any purchased spins will always be used last. Here's an insider's tip - if you want to spin faster, just double-click the big, red button to stop the wheel early!

The RuneScape Team

In Other News

It’s no longer necessary to log out and back in to access the Squeal of Fortune interface once it’s closed. You’ll find a Squeal of Fortune button in the bottom-right corner of the game screen

Adbot · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 2:50 am

Ranging God · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 6:44 am

Wow... Jagex finally hit a rock bottom. You can BUY spins for real money.... Pathetic. Technically, you can buy 10M of gp now for enough money. This is no different from people buying 10M from another player now imo.

Jmycenae · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 7:32 am

I hardly ever post on the Runescape forums, but here is the post I made today:

I am so surprised and disappointed to find that Jagex has chosen to become an online gambling website.

The option to spend real world money on gambling is much worse than simple microtransactions where money is spent for specific items. Either cheapen the game as they are both real world trading, which Jagex has until now claimed to discourage. However, allowing all players, including minors, to spend real money on a game of chance transforms Runescape into a branch of an online casino.

I predict that many members will cancel their membership due to this update. Many who are simply disgusted will quit at once. I imagine that many more memberships will be cancelled next month when the parents of minor members get their monthly billing statement from their credit card companies and discover that their kids have become gambling addicts on Runescape. Those parents will probably also be demanding refunds, and if Jagex refuses, I imagine that a number of lawsuits will be filed.

Not to mention the fact that encouraging minors to gamble online probably violates the online gambling laws in a number of the countries where Jagex does business.

This seems like a very poorly thought out update. I hope that Jagex revokes the ability to purchase spins.

Jer99 · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 8:41 am

Here are my thoughts about this update:

I really like this update. Not because of the fact that you can purchase spins, but because of all the new availability of getting free spins. I think everyone is overlooking this fact, as you can get them quite often as monsters drops as i have so far. You can also get extra free spins from the squeal itself, which is another huge bonus. And remember, there are only a select items exclusive to the squeal of fortune and most of which actually have no stats and are for esthetic reasons.

I really don't understand the backlash jagex is getting for this update. Sure they included an OPTION to purchase extra spins, but now there are plenty of new ways to get free spins. I believe they are a better company than most, because of the fact that almost all companies are releasing DLC's at a high cost which include exclusive items, and you can get everything in the squeal of fortune without dropping a single penny.

5/5

Ranging God · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 8:46 am

Jer99 wrote:

Here are my thoughts about this update:

I really like this update. Not because of the fact that you can purchase spins, but because of all the new availability of getting free spins. I think everyone is overlooking this fact, as you can get them quite often as monsters drops as i have so far. You can also get extra free spins from the squeal itself, which is another huge bonus. And remember, there are only a select items exclusive to the squeal of fortune and most of which actually have no stats and are for esthetic reasons.

I really don't understand the backlash jagex is getting for this update. Sure they included an OPTION to purchase extra spins, but now there are plenty of new ways to get free spins. I believe they are a better company than most, because of the fact that almost all companies are releasing DLC's at a high cost which include exclusive items, and you can get everything in the squeal of fortune without dropping a single penny.

5/5

I like all the new ways to get spins, except for the buying them.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 9:06 am

Jer99 wrote:

Here are my thoughts about this update:

I really like this update. Not because of the fact that you can purchase spins, but because of all the new availability of getting free spins. I think everyone is overlooking this fact, as you can get them quite often as monsters drops as i have so far. You can also get extra free spins from the squeal itself, which is another huge bonus. And remember, there are only a select items exclusive to the squeal of fortune and most of which actually have no stats and are for esthetic reasons.

I really don't understand the backlash jagex is getting for this update. Sure they included an OPTION to purchase extra spins, but now there are plenty of new ways to get free spins. I believe they are a better company than most, because of the fact that almost all companies are releasing DLC's at a high cost which include exclusive items, and you can get everything in the squeal of fortune without dropping a single penny.

5/5

Your not paying a monthly SUBSCRIPTION for those other games. It provides an unfair advantage to those with money to spend. But i dunno what people expect. Once you let those ******* loyalty rewards slide you got yourselves on a very slippery slope. That again was locking content away from there subscribers behind a pay wall. That's again an unfair advantage for those that can afford membership month in month out nevermind the poor kid that can only afford it every once in a while.

I hate to say i tol..well i don't actually. I'm loving watching Jagex suck it's customers dry. Wonder how far they can push it i doubt it stops here the outrage isn't high enough. You'll see more things like this in the future. :]

Adbot · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 9:06 am

Jer99 · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 9:16 am

You do not need a monthly subscription to spin the squeal of fortune as jagex even gives free members a spin a day. And its unplausible to make more money buying squeal of fortune tickets then to make money from bossing or skilling. How often does the squeal land on the 10m super rate item? Not that often. I guess the only good thing you can get from buying tickets would be the extra experience, but with all of the ways to gain huge amounts of exp in game i really doubt its worth it.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 9:25 am

Jer99 wrote:

You do not need a monthly subscription to spin the squeal of fortune as jagex even gives free members a spin a day. And its unplausible to make more money buying squeal of fortune tickets then to make money from bossing or skilling. How often does the squeal land on the 10m super rate item? Not that often. I guess the only good thing you can get from buying tickets would be the extra experience, but with all of the ways to gain huge amounts of exp in game i really doubt its worth it.

You think?

150k slayer exp in 8 minutes. I've not played the game in about a year or two. Is there really content IN GAME that can provide that sort of exp rate? Jesus slayer must be easy nowadays.

Jer99 · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 9:34 am

If you want to pick individual skills out thats fine. Frost dragon bones can earn upwards of 1mil xp per hour, as well as making overloads. That's not the point though. Of course slayer is one of the slowest skills to raise and getting lamps would make that particular skill faster.

Consider the fact that he is pretty much maxed in every skill which earns him a huge amount more then the average player would get. If someone wants to buy out 99 slayer starting at ~50 slayer, its nowhere near as close per xp lamp as that gentleman in the video. If you want to max out 200m exp in every skill then yes it would be the fastest way, but most players arent even close to being maxed.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 9:46 am

Jer99 wrote:

If you want to pick individual skills out thats fine. Frost dragon bones can earn upwards of 1mil xp per hour, as well as making overloads. That's not the point though. Of course slayer is one of the slowest skills to raise and getting lamps would make that particular skill faster.

Consider the fact that he is pretty much maxed in every skill which earns him a huge amount more then the average player would get. If someone wants to buy out 99 slayer starting at ~50 slayer, its nowhere near as close per xp lamp as that gentleman in the video. If you want to max out 200m exp in every skill then yes it would be the fastest way, but most players arent even close to being maxed.

It takes less exp to level up at lower levels. It'll still be faster for them to level up at there level than actually playing the game.

Can't say i know anything about Frost dragons. Tell me is it as easy as pulling a lever and sitting back? Or do you have to actually - you know play the game? Do you need equipment? Food? Potions? All that jazz? I can't imagine why I'd bother to grind away at frost dragons. I earn enough that i can dump £20 on spins and get the exp faster and easier than anyone playing the game. Add in prep and travel and it's more than an hour. Much more effort too.

Admit it. It's giving those with money a free ride. It's an unfair advantage. It's selling gold/exp for real world money. Something i thought Jagex was against. :-%

Jer99 · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 10:01 am

Frost dragon bones on gilded altar, all you have to do is light the incentives with marrentil and use the bones on the altar for a huge boost of xp.

The same can be argued about people who cannot afford membership and those who can. People without membership have extremely limited access to content and methods to level up skills, while members have numerous ways to level up skills way faster then free players.

I just think that they aren't going as low as people think they are. They did release 2 new ways of getting free spins on the wheel along with the buyable spins, but i think jagex is alot better then companies who just release content and there is no other way of getting it then buying it.

They might have to rethink how often you get lamps though, because yes some skills like slayer and mining would be way faster buying lamps.

I still like the update because of the new tab in-game for the squeal of fortune which makes it easily accessible, and the vouchers that come from monsters and the opportunity to get 2 free spins while playing the squeal of fortune. I won't be buying any spins because i don't think it's worth it, but regardless i think it is one of their best updates in a while

Warren · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 10:58 am

Jmycenae wrote:

I hardly ever post on the Runescape forums, but here is the post I made today:

I am so surprised and disappointed to find that Jagex has chosen to become an online gambling website.

The option to spend real world money on gambling is much worse than simple microtransactions where money is spent for specific items. Either cheapen the game as they are both real world trading, which Jagex has until now claimed to discourage. However, allowing all players, including minors, to spend real money on a game of chance transforms Runescape into a branch of an online casino.

I predict that many members will cancel their membership due to this update. Many who are simply disgusted will quit at once. I imagine that many more memberships will be cancelled next month when the parents of minor members get their monthly billing statement from their credit card companies and discover that their kids have become gambling addicts on Runescape. Those parents will probably also be demanding refunds, and if Jagex refuses, I imagine that a number of lawsuits will be filed.

Not to mention the fact that encouraging minors to gamble online probably violates the online gambling laws in a number of the countries where Jagex does business.

This seems like a very poorly thought out update. I hope that Jagex revokes the ability to purchase spins.

I never actually thought about sof as gambling until you said that... even though it's a dumb downed version of slots.
Which is pretty interesting. DICING IS EVIL WE WILL KILL ALL FORMS OF GAMBLING IN RUNESCAPE. WAIT NVM WE WILL INTRODUCE OUR OWN GAMBLING AND MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT. BUT REAL WORLD TRADING IS EVIL WE WILL KILL IT. WAIT, WHAT IF WE COMBINED RWT AND DICING AND WE MADE REAL MONEY OFF OF IT? WHAT A GREAT IDEA OMG OMG MAKE IT RIGHT NOW

I can't imagine a huge influx of people canceling membership. Some will but they've being doing this for so long now that everybody should know the direction the game is heading and yeah this will be the breaking point for some people like other updates have been for others. But not everyone. And since they've been doing it so long they could probably predict very accurately how many lost subscriptions would result and how many of those lost subscriptions would be "permanent" - and how many of the lost subscriptions would be from people who'd subscribe for a few months then stop for a few months then subscribe again. And their predictions show the amount of money lost will probably be insignificant to the money gained from bought spins. Or I imagine they would since they're not going to do something so bad if they predicted an overall loss and I wouldn't think they'd expect a hugely positive reaction. Then again, it is Jagex.

But I don't get why they've gotten so good at making terrible updates. It's like they were making a lot of money when the game wasn't complete **** and now they aren't making as much so they're willing to do anything to get back up there except making an actual good game.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 12:02 pm

Supposed #1 rs player right now. Begging for donations. Pathetic. :]

This also raises the point of donations and popular rs characters on youtube. Making money off youtube. They can afford to sink what money they make from fans/runescape into the game to further advance themselves ahead of everyone else.

How exactly would i compete with this sumo guy or whatever his stupid name is when hes got an army of fanboys helping him out with donations? I'd be ***** if i was top 20 or so and this guy was asking for hand outs.

Rodsay · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 12:28 pm

Jagex have stated that it is not gambling because you always win a prize. If you are f2p and win a members item you can only claim it by becoming a member immediately. In my view that is a definite LOSS for most f2p players.

The extra spins from other activities is equalised; you kill a boss, you take part in a mini-game, you all have an equal chance to with (within the limits of f2p and p2p)

It is certainly RWT and micro-transactions, two concepts that Jagex has frequently stated they would never introduce.

Bad BAD move.

Warren · **Posted:** April 2nd, 2012, 12:36 pm

Well if slot machines gaurenteed you'd always win something (free turn, 1 cent, etc) does that mean it isn't gambling?