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PostPosted: May 29th, 2007, 4:06 pm 
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Anti-Macro Solution

This is a possible solution to the macro crisis, although, this idea is only based on macros woodcutting. What is a macro? A user in RuneScape is considered a macro when that user uses a program which will execute a series of commands in series (clicks), saving the user having to repeat clicking or data input. When a macro user is woodcutting the macro user uses a sequence of clicks to chop down the trees. Now what if we could break that sequence of clicks?

This is where my idea comes in to affect. When a macro user or any RuneScape user clicks a tree to chop it down an ‘Options’ screen will appear in the chat box window giving to options to chop down the tree and to cancel the options screen. Now you’re probably thinking So what? The macro user can just set the sequence of clicks to click the Chop down Tree option every time. That’s not how it works. Every time you click the tree and the options screen appears in the chat box window, the Chop down Tree and Cancel options will be placed in different random places, which will make incredibly difficult for a macro user to click the Chop down Tree option. If the macro user sets his sequence of clicks to click a million times in different places on the chat box window, they may possibly click the Cancel option bringing them them back to the starting of the process (click the tree to open the option screen → choose your option).

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Here is a basic example of the idea and Options screen. The two options will randomly appear in different places every time opened.

You may also be thinking Will you have to go through this Options screen every time one log is cut for a user?. No, once you click the Chop down Tree option you will continuality chop down the tree until there is no more to chop, which will then make you have to click the tree again and go through the options again. For macros it’s not preventable every time, but it will make it much more difficult to cut trees. Also to conclude, when you right click on a tree it will already give the option (Chop Tree) to chop the tree. Well, sorry to say but clicking that will also bring you to the Options screen in the chat box window.

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No way :/ . I would never want to do that everytime I wanted to chop down a tree. Good thinking, but they will never do it.


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No way :/ . I would never want to do that everytime I wanted to chop down a tree. Good thinking, but they will never do it.


Exactly what he says. :?

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No way :/ . I would never want to do that everytime I wanted to chop down a tree. Good thinking, but they will never do it.


Exactly what he says. :?

Agreeing here too. Good thinking, but it seems more of a hassle than a solution, and Jagex will never do it.

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I can't see that happening. Even though I do agree with it. I don't woodcut much :wink:

1) The autoers would still get around it
2) Jagex would get never ending rants from normal players.

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Rune Beast0 wrote:
but it seems more of a hassle than a solution.

Why would it be a hassle? Is it because it would take longer? Sure it would take a tad longer, but than it’s just more of a challenge. Yes, it would be very annoying, but it could lessen the number of macroers and make the game better. With just a mere extra click you could widely reduce the number of the macros who woodcut.

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1) The autoers would still get around it

Uh .. how? You should justify your thoughts with some reasoning you know..

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Jagex would get never ending rants from normal players.

Aren’t there already many rants in relation to macroers and autoers?

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1) The autoers would still get around it

Uh .. how? You should justify your thoughts with some reasoning you know..


I will for him. If I remember correctly, Snowfox has seen autoer doing randoms. Compared to that, your idea is a piece of cake.

With the autoers today, they can search for certin colors, patterns and text.

All it would do is just cause them to take a 3 second delay, for everyone.

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^ Yes, what he said. Some of the current randoms flip their options around and stuff, but that doesn't stop them.

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This wont work if it was put, why? because Macro users still have a Person looking over the player for when being attack or for getting out a Random event such as Mime or maze. So the person looking over the account just simply click on it and let the Program do the rest. :(

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1) The autoers would still get around it

Uh .. how? You should justify your thoughts with some reasoning you know..


I will for him. If I remember correctly, Snowfox has seen autoer doing randoms. Compared to that, your idea is a piece of cake.

With the autoers today, they can search for certin colors, patterns and text.

All it would do is just cause them to take a 3 second delay, for everyone.


He was doing the Bob the Cat balloon random, which is one of the most complex. Autoers can get around any random. Random events will never stop autoers, and although I have to say it's a well thought out idea, Jagex would never hear the end of it in their rants section, and it would be an annoyance to most players.

Get to work Spades United.

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Macroers have OCR, wouldn't work.

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Clever idea but too simple.
I believe that macroers cant be stopped...

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Rune Beast0 wrote:
but it seems more of a hassle than a solution.

Why would it be a hassle? Is it because it would take longer? Sure it would take a tad longer, but than it’s just more of a challenge. Yes, it would be very annoying, but it could lessen the number of macroers and make the game better. With just a mere extra click you could widely reduce the number of the macros who woodcut.


A tad?

What about people who want to chop down normal trees? They only produce one log. That would take a LOT longer.

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That'd be like the bank pin. The bank pin is a pain in the *** but what it does is protect you. This? This just stops you. =\


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Rune Beast0 wrote:
but it seems more of a hassle than a solution.

Why would it be a hassle? Is it because it would take longer? Sure it would take a tad longer, but than it’s just more of a challenge. Yes, it would be very annoying, but it could lessen the number of macroers and make the game better. With just a mere extra click you could widely reduce the number of the macros who woodcut.


As everyone else is saying, if bots can get around Bob's Balloons, I believe they can get around this, so it would be hurting honest players. If RuneScapers complain about the Wilderness Ditch (which I think was a good update) for slowing them down, they will surely complain about this. It will slow down bots a little since they have to do it as well, but it will hurt more honest players than bots.

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