Worst school shooting in U.S. history...

Rapidash · **Posted:** April 16th, 2007, 9:11 pm

Brad wrote:

Alex wrote:

Why did they close all entrances after it started? Surely you would try to evacuate ASAP.

...And spread the word a better way than an email.

It's a huge campus apparently. Would have been near impossible to secure it completely.

30,000+ people living there. It's like a town itself.

I have a cousin who is going to VT, I've not heard back from her but I'm sure she is fine, I'd have heard otherwise by now, I guess.

And banning guns wouldn't help much, people who use their right to bear arms they way they are supposed are fine, it's the people who abuse it that need to be controlled. And even if those people can't have guns that's not stopping them from getting them illegally.

Adbot · **Posted:** April 16th, 2007, 9:11 pm

trekkie · **Posted:** April 16th, 2007, 10:30 pm

i think after this schools around the nation are going to try and get a better plan to keep the students safe

Steven · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 12:02 am

I heard about the Virginia Tech shooting this morning, I was watching the News all morning and afternoon.

I found out my Cousin died in the shooting at 2:21 AM (Mountain time).

They said the shooter was a Asian male, 21 Years old,and he went to Virginia Tech.

After he went and murdered many students and Professors, he went and shot himself in the face.

This all started from him having a fight with his Girlfriend, and so he killed his girlfriend and went to the campus and started killing students and Professors there, afterwards.

The first shooting was around 7:14 AM (Pacific time), and then the first E-Mail to all the students was sent about 2 hours later. The second shooting was 10 minutes after the first E-Mail was sent out. The third E-Mail was sent out at 10:00 AM (Pacific time), and then the sencond shooting was confirmed at 10:08.

I was alive to witness the Colombine shooting, and I thought that was bad. Seeing this happening on Television this morning was worse than 9/11 and the Colombine shooting combined.

R.I.P Students who were murdered in this shooting. R.I.P

The Haysta · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 12:24 am

Very nice Zaros, but how can someone not rest in peace because the murderer killed himself? Sure, the families may feel a bit cheated that they can't throw racial slurs at him, but... what the hell?

Steven · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 12:29 am

Agent Waffles wrote:

Very nice Zaros, but how can someone not rest in peace because the murderer killed himself? Sure, the families may feel a bit cheated that they can't throw racial slurs at him, but... what the hell?

Thanks, I pay attention when these things happen, and I can feel the fear, sadness, and everything else these students feel. I decided to delete that thing about then not being able to rest ing peace, after I read it a few times, I decided it didn't realy make any sence.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 1:39 am

Jeff wrote:

trekkie wrote:

watch as the media blames the shooting on video games or marlin manson

Yea. Jack Thompson was already on Fox blaming it on "Counter Strike: Half Life" and "Grand Theft Auto".

CreepyPirate wrote:

Brandt wrote:

The reason they allow guns and dont abolish the NRA..etc..is because of the 2nd amendment, which gives the right to bear arms. IF the legistlature sets a law prohibiting it, the supreme court will instantly deem it unconstitutional. Thats why there are laws...they just arent followed.

So remove it from the amendment, problem solved. I don't see why anyone would disagree with it being removed but gun crazy idiots.

I don't see any reason why guns should be banned. There are several recent cases in which the gunman was gunned down by someone legally possessing a gun in Utah. This guy here probably got the gun illegally anyways. Outlawing guns isn't going to help much.

It wouldn't help short term no but long term it would. Civilians have no need to own guns, this whole "TO DEFEND MYSELF" crap is just that, crap. At the start a lot of guns would still be in the system but once you've gone through all those that are registered to legally own a gun and removed theirs you've then cut back on a lot and wont have as many children shooting it up everywhere.

Guns was legal here once upon a time and in several other places but look now, barley any gun crime. Even our police don't use guns, there just isn't a need to. + We have a department for armed police just incase a gun man does come up.

Adbot · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 1:39 am

Chi Meng · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 8:14 am

CreepyPirate wrote:

Jeff wrote:

trekkie wrote:

watch as the media blames the shooting on video games or marlin manson

Yea. Jack Thompson was already on Fox blaming it on "Counter Strike: Half Life" and "Grand Theft Auto".

CreepyPirate wrote:

Brandt wrote:

The reason they allow guns and dont abolish the NRA..etc..is because of the 2nd amendment, which gives the right to bear arms. IF the legistlature sets a law prohibiting it, the supreme court will instantly deem it unconstitutional. Thats why there are laws...they just arent followed.

So remove it from the amendment, problem solved. I don't see why anyone would disagree with it being removed but gun crazy idiots.

I don't see any reason why guns should be banned. There are several recent cases in which the gunman was gunned down by someone legally possessing a gun in Utah. This guy here probably got the gun illegally anyways. Outlawing guns isn't going to help much.

It wouldn't help short term no but long term it would. Civilians have no need to own guns, this whole "TO DEFEND MYSELF" crap is just that, crap. At the start a lot of guns would still be in the system but once you've gone through all those that are registered to legally own a gun and removed theirs you've then cut back on a lot and wont have as many children shooting it up everywhere.

Guns was legal here once upon a time and in several other places but look now, barley any gun crime. Even our police don't use guns, there just isn't a need to. + We have a department for armed police just incase a gun man does come up.

I disagree with you. Citizens of the US should have the right to carry concealed weapons. I dont know where you are from but where I am from, if you travel 30-40 minutes south, you wouldn't want to even go gas up. You would probably get robbed and shot. Now, if someone knew i had a gun, do you think they would come rob me? Probably not. But now i am going off topic.

To the families of those affected by the shootings, our prayers are with you. This is a major tragedy that should of never happened. I also pray for the family of the shooter. Right now everyone is just asking "'why." Why he did it? We will never know. But may God forgive him.

Gzpro · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 8:19 am

Half the police i saw on TV looked to be about 50 years old and weigh 300 pounds/ 136.08 kilograms.

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 8:24 am

Chi Meng wrote:

CreepyPirate wrote:

Jeff wrote:

trekkie wrote:

watch as the media blames the shooting on video games or marlin manson

Yea. Jack Thompson was already on Fox blaming it on "Counter Strike: Half Life" and "Grand Theft Auto".

CreepyPirate wrote:

Brandt wrote:

The reason they allow guns and dont abolish the NRA..etc..is because of the 2nd amendment, which gives the right to bear arms. IF the legistlature sets a law prohibiting it, the supreme court will instantly deem it unconstitutional. Thats why there are laws...they just arent followed.

So remove it from the amendment, problem solved. I don't see why anyone would disagree with it being removed but gun crazy idiots.

I don't see any reason why guns should be banned. There are several recent cases in which the gunman was gunned down by someone legally possessing a gun in Utah. This guy here probably got the gun illegally anyways. Outlawing guns isn't going to help much.

It wouldn't help short term no but long term it would. Civilians have no need to own guns, this whole "TO DEFEND MYSELF" crap is just that, crap. At the start a lot of guns would still be in the system but once you've gone through all those that are registered to legally own a gun and removed theirs you've then cut back on a lot and wont have as many children shooting it up everywhere.

Guns was legal here once upon a time and in several other places but look now, barley any gun crime. Even our police don't use guns, there just isn't a need to. + We have a department for armed police just incase a gun man does come up.

I disagree with you. Citizens of the US should have the right to carry concealed weapons. I dont know where you are from but where I am from, if you travel 30-40 minutes south, you wouldn't want to even go gas up. You would probably get robbed and shot. Now, if someone knew i had a gun, do you think they would come rob me? Probably not. But now i am going off topic.

To the families of those affected by the shootings, our prayers are with you. This is a major tragedy that should of never happened. I also pray for the family of the shooter. Right now everyone is just asking "'why." Why he did it? We will never know. But may God forgive him.

"Robbed and shot"

If guns was banned 50 years ago, you'd not have such a big problem like that. Know what you should do if you get held up at gun point and mugged? You should hand over your wallet, let them have the money and allow the police to do their job.

Cowardly? Ah well, I'd rather keep my life and not get killed/put in prison myself.

Anyway this isn't really the topic to be discussing this in, it's disrespectfull so if anyone would like to disagree, by all means PM me about it, don't drag it into this topic.

Brad · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 9:01 am

My only comment on the whole American and guns argument is; you guys want to carry guns, yet you don't want to face the consequences of incidents like this. That are obviously related to your love for guns.

I agree with creepy on the "I need to defend myself" point, It's just nonsense. Feel free to "arm yourself" just don't be surprised when things like this happen.

Edit: It was just reported on the British news that somebody in some prominent gun organization in America said if every student carried a gun this would never have happened. That pretty much defines retarded. They think it's a good idea for every student at university to carry a firearm? Morons.

Bogrollbloke · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 12:08 pm

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Worst school shooting

Surely the word "worst" should give people a clue to tighten security in school, colleges and universities in America. I find it stupid that there have been, obviously multiple other school rampages by madmen, after the second you'd sorta think "Hmm, we seem to have a problem attracting madmen to schools in this country, I know, let's tighten security!"

But no...

Silly.

atheism_rule · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 1:21 pm

Brad wrote:

My only comment on the whole American and guns argument is; you guys want to carry guns, yet you don't want to face the consequences of incidents like this. That are obviously related to your love for guns.

I agree with creepy on the "I need to defend myself" point, It's just nonsense. Feel free to "arm yourself" just don't be surprised when things like this happen.

Edit: It was just reported on the British news that somebody in some prominent gun organization in America said if every student carried a gun this would never have happened. That pretty much defines retarded. They think it's a good idea for every student at university to carry a firearm? Morons.

Well, having every student carry a gun would be a bad idea, but a if a gun was present in the room, the massacre could've been prevented. They should allow firearms on college campuses, with some restrictions

Kronic · **Posted:** April 17th, 2007, 1:44 pm

Agent Waffles wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence

Almost all of the top countries have a history of instability, why is America right up there?

It could just be the media, but I never hear of massacres outside of America.

Alright, but look at the list.

#8. America, population of 301,529,000
#21. Germany, population of 82,310,000
#26. Australia, population of 20,804,00
#28 Spain, population of 44,708,964
#30 New Zealand, population of 4,165,600

So population is a big determining factor in gun violence, with the exception of countries in civil war. America has many more citizens, meaning more gun violence. If Germany, Australia, or any other country had the sheer population that America has, they would have just as many.

Once again just to insist on the point that it isn't the country, it's a small percentage of people that affect the way others view the country.

Brad wrote:

My only comment on the whole American and guns argument is; you guys want to carry guns, yet you don't want to face the consequences of incidents like this. That are obviously related to your love for guns.

Whoever said we don't want to face the consequences?

Brad wrote:

Edit: It was just reported on the British news that somebody in some prominent gun organization in America said if every student carried a gun this would never have happened. That pretty much defines retarded. They think it's a good idea for every student at university to carry a firearm? Morons.

Agreed. That man is an idiot. Having 30,000 college students all carrying firearms around campus wouldn't end well.

The Killer · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 1:01 am

Just read the paper today, didn't have time to read all of it, but to summarize what I read..

Apparently he is angry at some "rich kids" and killed them.

I'll go try to find the article here.

The Haysta · **Posted:** April 18th, 2007, 1:28 am

Kronic wrote:

Agent Waffles wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence

Almost all of the top countries have a history of instability, why is America right up there?

It could just be the media, but I never hear of massacres outside of America.

Alright, but look at the list.

#8. America, population of 301,529,000
#21. Germany, population of 82,310,000
#26. Australia, population of 20,804,00
#28 Spain, population of 44,708,964
#30 New Zealand, population of 4,165,600

So population is a big determining factor in gun violence, with the exception of countries in civil war. America has many more citizens, meaning more gun violence. If Germany, Australia, or any other country had the sheer population that America has, they would have just as many.

Once again just to insist on the point that it isn't the country, it's a small percentage of people that affect the way others view the country.

Population shouldn't be a determining factor.