SwiftSwitch = SwiftKit?

Hmm...you can chat in game...okay.

If these people are so intelligent why can't they use the print screen on their keyboard.

How hard is it really to check prices.

I already explained the "more convenient high score" thing.

So you are telling me that SS was not downloaded for the fact that you could switch swiftly? I call BS...come on...any of those features you listed are less then ten seconds away. It is the two minutes or more you have to wait at the loading screen to get into world 2 that was the reason people downloaded SS...everything else was a bonus. To cut those two minutes they users had to overload the runescape bandwidth and pass up legit users who were patiently waiting. Not an advantage over other players...whatever...

And to say there have never been any keyloggers in SS is like saying a Microsoft OS has never had a virus...Obviously many hackers found easy enough prey SS to modify it on more than enough occations. And saying that the person is "dumb enough not to download it from Zybez or the main site" implies a level of computer savviness. That would be an unfair disadvantage to those who didn't have the savviness to even understand how spyware works. Why should they be penalized for their lack of knowledge?

BTW I never said SS blocked adds, I used add blocking as an example of something that is impossible to catch, that is often done, and that degrades from the game.

Finally, calling me a purist is pretty stupid. All my life I've been hounded being "an overachiever." In other word. Someone who plays within the rules and still exceeds (at least that is the what it meant at my high school). Thus I will apply the same definition to purist, and I shall take it as a compliment. I can succeed in side the rules of the game which is more of a challenge and therefore in my opinion more rewarding (and hence fun) then trying to bend them or skirt the edges to cut my work load.

There is barely any challenge in the game, unless you PvP.

Built-in IRC chat: In the game you could only talk to people around you or PM your friends, in IRC, it goes way beyond.

Screenshot taker: Saves time by instantly saving the screenshot instead of having to paste it on Paint and then save it.

Price checker: Not many people update themselves in World 2, it's very nifty for those who don't have time for that. Also it helps me out sorta as I don't have to click like hell for 30 minutes just to get to world 2 and check prices.

You didn't touch on the Timers point, but I will elaborate it for you. It's very useful at iron dragons when you mage them, because there is no warning message in-game when your anti-dragon potion wears out. The timer helps you note when it will wear out, instead of being blasted by a dragonflame as a notice that it wore out.




Great, so I have to use politically correct sentences now?

Seriously, if you just google SS back then, you'll right away get into the main SS site or Zybez, unless you're a mentally disabled person who can't differenciate "Real" and "Fraud".



Y'know, there's no less reward by using SS, unless you consider clicking the World Select button for 30 minutes or more just to get to a busy world an accomplishment.

It's like you're comparing a cart to a car, and you're trying to persuade me that the cart is better than the car, because the car "trys to skirt the edges to cut my work load".

You're no better than them. The only notable difference is that they actually care to conserve time.

Just my two cents.

That made absolutely no sense...

Jagex wouldn't pay people to use SS.

I will always continue to use SS even if Jagex comes out and striaght up bans SS itself. They should change it to SK because it doesnt not "switch" worlds anymore.

The people who bash SS are mostly people who have not even tried it and make false accusation against it.

1) It is not against the rules. SS is constantly updating itself to keep in line with the rules of Jagex.

2) It does not have spyware/keyloggers/viruses/etc... I think I would know. I've used SS since 2005. I have not been hacked a single time, or had any other problems directly related to SS. The people who did get these things probably tried to get it from an unsafe location. Zybez should be the only place anyone should download it from.

3) You guys should at least try it before you start hating it. It is very handy. It does not give any advantages that people using the normal client could not have themselves (anymore). All it has is a screenshot taker, a high score look up, a price look up, and lots of other neat features.

Just my ideas.

I'm sorry, but with some of your guys' logic then calculators are considered cheating. After all, doesn't it give you an advantage if you KNOW how many yews you need to cut before you get to lvl 90?

I think it's a great idea and I've always supported SwiftSwitch.

I've frankly never seen any point in SS myself. I tended to loathe it, as well, due to the huge gaps you would get at any resolution hgher than 1024x768... frankly it was lazy coding - they couldnt be bothered to make it dynamically resizing to your screen resolution.

When I play RS, I have everything right there in Opera, at my fingertips. Sure, some of the things are not as fast to access as in SS, but I dont care, really.



Let's look at these one by one.

Chat - Opera has a built-in IRC client, and accessing the server irc.********.net allows you to use swiftswitch IRC right within Opera. If you like, you can unmaximise the chat tab, too, by pressing 5; so when you are talking on IRC your view of RS is not completely gone.

Screenshot taker - Ok, so this one is not in Opera, but there are many screenshot takers out there. I have one built-in to the non-standard drivers I use for my gfx card. Just press Ctrl + `, and a screenshot is instantly dumped into a folder in my documents.

Hiscores, Price Checkers - A custom search engine in Opera (i believe this is also available in Firefox) can do the job for this, and for me, this key sequence will bring up a new, unmaximised tab with Zezima's hiscores:

Ctrl+T rshs Zezima Enter 5

Or this one would bring up the price of a dragon chain in an unmaximised window:

Ctrl+T rsp dragon chain Enter 5

To set up these search engines, I used the search boxes on the RS official hiscores for the first, and the Zybez price checker for the second. Simply right clicking on the search box, selecting create search, and making some keywords is all you have to do.

Timers and Counters - For this one, we can use a nifty little coundown timer Opera widget, or the Multifunctional Analogue clock widget, which can do countup, countdowns, an alarm, or just tell you the time.

As for guides and stuff, it is entirely possible, and easy, just to make a new tab, unmaximise it so you can still see runescape (in case of random events etc), and open up tip.it or zybez or whatever you like, then open up the guide.

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Clearly with a good modern browser like Opera or Firefox, and some sensible , you can completely eradicate the need for SS.

In the past year or so, Jagek has really become increasing paranoid about any little problem at all. Too paranoid if you ask me. I realize there are kids that play this game, obviously...on account of the maturity level of players...and they want to stop people from crying about glitches, etc. to them...but come on. Having to restrict every little freedom we have just about is sucking the fun from the game. It's bad enough we have to put up with parents, well, some of us...and school teachers. We come home to vent our day out on skills on RuneScape. We dont want to come home to more strictness. It's just total bs to me. I've used SS for about 2 years and have never once had a problem out of it. Jagek just needs to stfu and stop trying to screw Zybez.

I understand that, but Jagek has pushed it a little far. There are certain things you can do to protect yourself. But you know what? Nobody ever does them and then they end up complaining to Jagek and saying it was their fault they got hacked, when in reality, it was their own stupidity that landed them in the "hacked file"