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PostPosted: October 10th, 2006, 4:29 pm 
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I honestly don't know what some of you expect from RuneScape's graphics. I came to the realization that some of you live in a dream world where RuneScape's graphics are much better than they really are. I've seen RS Fakes get rated incredibly high scores when the graphics are so good that it clearly doesn't even match RS. Might as well just paste pictures of yourself over your character and call it a fake.

Anyway, what I'm rambling on about is a test I did. Just to prove how unaware the majority of people are about just how bad RS's graphics are, I screenshotted a particularly bad moment during a quest and posted it as a fake in the RS Fakes section.

Some scores:

"1/5 how well done the fake is [ie: can you tell it's a fake?] "
"0/3 how realistic the fake is [ie: could you imagine seeing this ingame?] "
"0/3 how realistic the fake is [ie: could you imagine seeing this ingame?] "
"1/5 how well done the fake is [ie: can you tell it's a fake?]
0/3 how realistic the fake is [ie: could you imagine seeing this ingame?] "
"i just really can't see anyone doing that in rs."
"0/5 all you did was flipped the character.
0/3 no i can't see this in the game
-10/2 if they were metal retared! <-------- Best quote from page, btw
2/10 [overall score]"


I'm hoping the majority of them just ignored that fakes are nothing more than fakes of RS and mostly rated on 'how easy it would be' to make the fake.

[And note that I asked them to use my personal rating system which ignored how easy the fake would have been to make, but instead soley was to be graded on how applicable it was to RS.]

Because since this wasn't a fake at all and was exactly RS's graphics, I shouldn't get knocked for that at all. The fake is exactly what RS has so it fits in perfectly. Any more is excessive, any less is crude.


Anyway, to make this short, some of you really don't realize how poor RS's graphics are. And some of you invest so much time into making 'realistic fakes' that they stop being realistic because the graphics in the fakes are better than RuneScapes.

(last note: In the quest, you don't actually lay down to pray. You get knocked down or something while you're prayer is on. *Maybe* the scores would have been higher if I had been honest about *exactly* what was happening, but either way, I keep my point)

Anyway, not sure exactly what the mods are going to do, since technically the post in the fakes forum would be spam. Sorry for that, but just felt like proving a valid point.

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Personally, this fake is either an absolute 0 because it isn't a fake at all, or it is a perfect score as it's exactly from the game, so it fits in perfectly with the game.

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nice fake...jk you have a good point i did read your fake rating guide!!

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Looks real is not the only point for rating...The Effortmade is the best way to improve and this how you get good critism and comments :wink:

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Maiden4life wrote:
Looks real is not the only point for rating...The Effortmade is the best way to improve and this how you get good critism and comments :wink:


I asked everyone to use a custom rating system that did not include the effort used to make the image, but instead on it's realisticness. I still got incredibly low scores in every category.

x/5 how well done the fake is [ie: can you tell it's a fake?]
x/3 how realistic the fake is [ie: could you imagine seeing this ingame?]
x/2 how applicable the fake is [ie: do you think Jagex would put something
like this into the game?]
x/10 [overall score]

For the first one, not so suprisingly, an over-whelming majority claimed they could tell this was a fake. They also said they couldn't imagine seeing this in game... even though this is directly from teh game. The last one I'm going to drop because I did technically say that it was 'laying down to pray', when in reality Jagex made you get knocked out while praying.

Either way, overall scores of 2 are hardly appropriate on this rating system considering this is a "fake" so in tune with RuneScape's graphics and gameplay system that it's directly from it.

EDIT: Also, why does the effort used in making the fake matter when Jagex clearly doesn't put too much effort into making images like this, in their own game. Is the RS section not a section to make realistic RS fakes? Is it in fact a section to try to out-do Jagex? (in some instances, with completely new features, this would be applicable, but there are many fakes that are posted there that are only funny and awkward moments in the game that get incredibly low ratings even though they almost perfectly match the game. Can you tell it's a fake? No? Then why give it a 0 as a rating when it matches the game you're making a fake of?

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The point of making a fake is to make it look legit, not so great graphics that it blows the real graphics away. Unless that was the point of the fake, to make your own version of an upped RS.


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Bib User wrote:
The point of making a fake is to make it look legit, not so great graphics that it blows the real graphics away. Unless that was the point of the fake, to make your own version of an upped RS.


What I've always believed, too. Just seen so much difference in views in the fakes forum, as they'll flame something that directly resembles RS (using resembles loosely considering this doesn't just resemble but is *actually* RS).

I'm not sure if they're delusional about how RS's graphics actually are or they are just crazed with amazing graphics, whether or not the category is 'RS Fakes'.

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CrioThreeMo wrote:
Maiden4life wrote:
Looks real is not the only point for rating...The Effortmade is the best way to improve and this how you get good critism and comments :wink:


I asked everyone to use a custom rating system that did not include the effort used to make the image, but instead on it's realisticness. I still got incredibly low scores in every category.

x/5 how well done the fake is [ie: can you tell it's a fake?]
x/3 how realistic the fake is [ie: could you imagine seeing this ingame?]
x/2 how applicable the fake is [ie: do you think Jagex would put something
like this into the game?]
x/10 [overall score]

For the first one, not so suprisingly, an over-whelming majority claimed they could tell this was a fake. They also said they couldn't imagine seeing this in game... even though this is directly from teh game. The last one I'm going to drop because I did technically say that it was 'laying down to pray', when in reality Jagex made you get knocked out while praying.

Either way, overall scores of 2 are hardly appropriate on this rating system considering this is a "fake" so in tune with RuneScape's graphics and gameplay system that it's directly from it.

EDIT: Also, why does the effort used in making the fake matter when Jagex clearly doesn't put too much effort into making images like this, in their own game. Is the RS section not a section to make realistic RS fakes? Is it in fact a section to try to out-do Jagex? (in some instances, with completely new features, this would be applicable, but there are many fakes that are posted there that are only funny and awkward moments in the game that get incredibly low ratings even though they almost perfectly match the game. Can you tell it's a fake? No? Then why give it a 0 as a rating when it matches the game you're making a fake of?


That not what I want to say, I want to say as if you just filliping a character (like you did ) I see no effort at all...It can do easy...Look real is a good point to get good comments but flipping figure is not an effort made...I can aggree as your fake look a little bit real but There is LOT of fake like this so that not very original too...Also the move as the guy making on your picture look very weird....Sorry :?

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Maiden4life wrote:
CrioThreeMo wrote:
Maiden4life wrote:
Looks real is not the only point for rating...The Effortmade is the best way to improve and this how you get good critism and comments :wink:


I asked everyone to use a custom rating system that did not include the effort used to make the image, but instead on it's realisticness. I still got incredibly low scores in every category.

x/5 how well done the fake is [ie: can you tell it's a fake?]
x/3 how realistic the fake is [ie: could you imagine seeing this ingame?]
x/2 how applicable the fake is [ie: do you think Jagex would put something
like this into the game?]
x/10 [overall score]

For the first one, not so suprisingly, an over-whelming majority claimed they could tell this was a fake. They also said they couldn't imagine seeing this in game... even though this is directly from teh game. The last one I'm going to drop because I did technically say that it was 'laying down to pray', when in reality Jagex made you get knocked out while praying.

Either way, overall scores of 2 are hardly appropriate on this rating system considering this is a "fake" so in tune with RuneScape's graphics and gameplay system that it's directly from it.

EDIT: Also, why does the effort used in making the fake matter when Jagex clearly doesn't put too much effort into making images like this, in their own game. Is the RS section not a section to make realistic RS fakes? Is it in fact a section to try to out-do Jagex? (in some instances, with completely new features, this would be applicable, but there are many fakes that are posted there that are only funny and awkward moments in the game that get incredibly low ratings even though they almost perfectly match the game. Can you tell it's a fake? No? Then why give it a 0 as a rating when it matches the game you're making a fake of?


That not what I want to say, I want to say as if you just filliping a character (like you did ) I see no effort at all...It can do easy...Look real is a good point to get good comments but flipping figure is not an effort made...I can aggree as your fake look a little bit real but There is LOT of fake like this so that not very original too...Also the move as the guy making on your picture look very weird....Sorry :?


I think you mis-read this thread. I did nothing. That isn't even a fake. It's a screenshot from RuneScape. How can it be rated a 0 in realisticness when it's 100% authentic and realistic?

This thread is about people who can't seem to realize that RS's graphics really are that bad, and they seem to expect works of art out of fakes.

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So why the hell you are showing the picture as you have posted in ''fake section'' :?:

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Read the initial post. I'm getting the sense that you kinda just skimmed it or glanced at the image before responding or something. :?

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RS Graphics are ok, why are they so low? Well its because so it can run on low maintance machines.

Besides that, fake ratings have nothing to do with real RS Graphics.

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Funny. When Vanstrom smacked me. I wasn't there. I was skeptical that was fake at all, except for the arm which seemed to have bad lighting.

Oh ya, fakes should be works of art.


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 Post subject: Re: RuneScape's graphics really are that bad...
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CrioThreeMo wrote:
I honestly don't know what some of you expect from RuneScape's graphics. I came to the realization that some of you live in a dream world where RuneScape's graphics are much better than they really are. I've seen RS Fakes get rated incredibly high scores when the graphics are so good that it clearly doesn't even match RS. Might as well just paste pictures of yourself over your character and call it a fake.

Anyway, what I'm rambling on about is a test I did. Just to prove how unaware the majority of people are about just how bad RS's graphics are, I screenshotted a particularly bad moment during a quest and posted it as a fake in the RS Fakes section.

Some scores:

"1/5 how well done the fake is [ie: can you tell it's a fake?] "
"0/3 how realistic the fake is [ie: could you imagine seeing this ingame?] "
"0/3 how realistic the fake is [ie: could you imagine seeing this ingame?] "
"1/5 how well done the fake is [ie: can you tell it's a fake?]
0/3 how realistic the fake is [ie: could you imagine seeing this ingame?] "
"i just really can't see anyone doing that in rs."
"0/5 all you did was flipped the character.
0/3 no i can't see this in the game
-10/2 if they were metal retared! <-------- Best quote from page, btw
2/10 [overall score]"


I'm hoping the majority of them just ignored that fakes are nothing more than fakes of RS and mostly rated on 'how easy it would be' to make the fake.

[And note that I asked them to use my personal rating system which ignored how easy the fake would have been to make, but instead soley was to be graded on how applicable it was to RS.]

Because since this wasn't a fake at all and was exactly RS's graphics, I shouldn't get knocked for that at all. The fake is exactly what RS has so it fits in perfectly. Any more is excessive, any less is crude.


Anyway, to make this short, some of you really don't realize how poor RS's graphics are. And some of you invest so much time into making 'realistic fakes' that they stop being realistic because the graphics in the fakes are better than RuneScapes.

(last note: In the quest, you don't actually lay down to pray. You get knocked down or something while you're prayer is on. *Maybe* the scores would have been higher if I had been honest about *exactly* what was happening, but either way, I keep my point)

Anyway, not sure exactly what the mods are going to do, since technically the post in the fakes forum would be spam. Sorry for that, but just felt like proving a valid point.

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Personally, this fake is either an absolute 0 because it isn't a fake at all, or it is a perfect score as it's exactly from the game, so it fits in perfectly with the game.


Haahahaa i love you.

You just owned every single one of these 'fake crits' and put them in their place, good job, shame it'll fall on death ears.

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 Post subject: Re: RuneScape's graphics really are that bad...
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Haahahaa i love you.

You just owned every single one of these 'fake crits' and put them in their place, good job, shame it'll fall on death ears.


This will fall on dumb ears. If anyone actually read what I said.. When was knocked out by vanstrom, I was in a totally different location but I was originally skeptical.

Also, rather that the way you put it 'owniing fake critics', he was proving a point that some RuneScape graphics are really quite bad, occasionaly, and that we should probably leverage off the criticism. Howver..

That, was a particulary bad screenshot, and I could definetly find one that was better than the average graphics, that could be percieved as a fake picture..

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This will fall on dumb ears. If anyone actually read what I said.. When was knocked out by vanstrom, I was in a totally different location but I was originally skeptical.

Also, rather that the way you put it 'owniing fake critics', he was proving a point that some RuneScape graphics are really quite bad, occasionaly, and that we should probably leverage off the criticism. Howver..

That, was a particulary bad screenshot, and I could definetly find one that was better than the average graphics, that could be percieved as a fake picture..

I need Robbies owning Gene...

Perception.


Hahahaha, you really do think far to much of yourself.

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Yet another.... 'Cut paste and Transform'

I won't use youe scoring system since Ult said it all.


He had you well and truly fooled, this is rather funny, no point making excuses for yourself, you was clearly absolutely clueless and just went about doing what you usually do, except this time you got made to look rather silly.

Ahhh this has reminded me why i love these boards. :D

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