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PostPosted: June 29th, 2005, 7:57 pm 
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Claim: Being an only child (or an only son) automatically exempts you from military service.

Status: False.

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As an only son, I have heard a few times before that there is an "only son clause" law with the military. Meaning that since I am an only son, I cannot be drafted for war. Is this true?

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Enlisted man belief that being the only child (or the only male child) in a family exempts one from compulsory military service is a widespread but erroneous belief, a misunderstanding of Select Service rules enacted after World War II.

Popular fact-based World War II films such as The Fighting Sullivans and Saving Private Ryan have dramatized cases where several brothers from the same family were all killed in action. The Fighting Sullivans recounts the true story of the Sullivan brothers, all five of whom died when the ship to which they were assigned, the USS Juneau, was sunk by a Japanese torpedo during the Battle of Guadalcanal on 13 November 1942. Saving Private Ryan tells a fictionalized story based on the real experience of Sgt. Fritz Niland of the 101st Airborne, who was removed from a combat zone in France and sent home by the Army after all three of his brothers were killed in action during the same week in June 1944.

In 1948, in order to safeguard the only remaining sons of families that had lost other children during World War II, the United States passed a law that exempted sole surviving sons from the draft. This exemption applied only when one or more children (sons or daughters) from the family had already died or been killed during military service. In 1964 this law was modified to extend the exemption to sons who were the only surviving male offspring of fathers who had died as a result of military service, and at the same time the exemption was altered to apply only to peacetime drafts. This law was modified again in 1971 to extend the exemption to any son (not necessarily the only surviving son) whose father or brother (or sister) had died in military service.

So, to clear up the misunderstandings, note that:

* You are not exempt from military service simply because you are an only child or an only son. You are exempt only if one of your siblings or parents (mothers are now included as well) has died as a result of military service.

* You do not have to be a sole remaining son to meet this requirement - the exemption applies to all remaining sons from qualified families.

* This exemption is not in effect during wartime.

(Although all American men are required to register with the Selective Service upon turning 18, the U.S. does not currently have a peacetime draft, having converted to an all-volunteer military in 1973. Whether a draft held while U.S. forces were engaged in military action but war had not officially been declared - as in the current situation - would be considered a "peacetime" draft or a "wartime" draft is debatable; our query to the Selective Service received only the circular answer that since no draft is in effect at this time, we are considered to be at peace.)



so i was bored so i went looking around snopes.com and found this. the thing is, do you think if you are an only child or son that you should be exempted from the draft?
thoughts??

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I'd rather not be drafted into war, I mean if I were killed, there will be no little pikas in the future, as I am an only child. But if our nation really needed my help, I guess I would go...just protect me!

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pika69 wrote:
I'd rather not be drafted into war, I mean if I were killed, there will be no little pikas in the future, as I am an only child. But if our nation really needed my help, I guess I would go...just protect me!

They are not going to protect you, your suppose to protect them :P
Here at Taiwan, we have to serve military server for 1 and a half year. It's the law. :wink:

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I wouldn't want to go to war...the no ickle kulla's would be around if i went. :cry:

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i'd shoot myself in the foot or get off some other way, :twisted:

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I don't believe it's right to false people to go to war full stop. It should be put to the people. If they agree with the war then go ahead and send in the army..call for help whatever..because one man deciding wether it's right or wrong..isn't right. And i sure as hell wouldn't want to be fighting for something i disagreed with.

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or we can all run away to canada

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what u all scared of war for. do your duty for your country

in my case country and queen...well i want to join the army but i got asthma =\ so i cant join for another 2years

but it seems you american are causing all these wars so u will be drafted lol

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Well i live in the U.S. but i wont be drafted into the military and if they try to. I have everyright to tell em to **** off. :P

My current INS (Immigration Naturalization Services) status allows me not to be drafted..

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what u all scared of war for. do your duty for your country

in my case country and queen...well i want to join the army but i got asthma =\ so i cant join for another 2years

but it seems you american are causing all these wars so u will be drafted lol



we can't be blamed for what our government does. i didn't vote for him. well i still say we're going to war with Iran. take a look at the news. Iran is (insert your own words) us americans cuz no doubt bush shall call another front to Iran. i'm.. soooo going to get drafted..... think canada has room for me??

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we can't be blamed for what our government does. i didn't vote for him. well i still say we're going to war with Iran. take a look at the news. Iran is (insert your own words) us americans cuz no doubt bush shall call another front to Iran. i'm.. soooo going to get drafted..... think canada has room for me??


You'll be doing it alone this time. ;)

Not a chance in hell Englands going to follow this time specialy not with iraq in such a mess and i would like to think America would sort that out before it goes running off on it's crusade again..but meh..i doubt it.

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i do believe that if we go to war with iran it will be over for us. we do not have enough men to fight and would be stretched thin

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hmmmmm................ still dont get why soo many of u ppl talk about amarica when u guys dont live hear or have ever been hear, the only ppl besides the amaricans that have room to talk about us is the candians, their right next door........... *mexico has 0% room to talk considering their armed forces are almost non existant* :P

btw: dam that sucks jeff, ur forced into the military, thats wrong, its not like theres ppl that wont fight for a country on their own accord, so why force the ppl that dont want to............ :?


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