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If you gonna be a vegetarian you should really take it into very deep thought. Because you know when you are at the dinner table and sumbody is eating a steak and you are eating a salad or "veggie burger". You know you want a take of that nice juicy tenderloine... :P

Your body wants the meat but you are just holding it back...your fighting your own inner thought. :?

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Which is why vegetarianism is so wrong. Your BODY wants meat, but you're mind, thinking you have some kind of warped moral highground says no. Which is just idiocy. Sheer idiocy.

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ts. By eating a variety of foods including fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, you can get the vitamins and nutrients you need from non-meat sources. By eating legumes, soy foods, nuts, and eggs, you can get the protein that you need to grow.


So it's not ok to eat an animal but its ok to eat their unborn children?


eggs are not considered "real meat" becuase if there is no fetus then it is not consider life.

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I like meat.

So I eat meat.


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murdererdood wrote:
RANTING MADNESS,ETC.


Vegans don't eat eggs either. Or any product that comes from animals. (Including things like honey).

And there are different types of vegetarians. Some only refuse to eat mammal meat. Others will only eat fish (lower standard of animal, I assume, is their logic). Get educated before posting insulting and ignorant posts.

Anyway, you're being way to hard on vegetarians. It's none of your business what they eat or how they eat it. As long as they don't try to convert you, then it will NEVER affect you. There are A LOT of vegetarians in the world, and believe me, they aren't all dying and sickly. Obviously, vegetarianism can be done in a healthy manner. How does it even affect you if someone else chooses not to eat meat?

"A Time/CNN poll published in Time Magazine on July 7, 2002, found that 4% of American adults consider themselves vegetarians, and 5% of self-described vegetarians consider themselves vegans. This suggests that 0.2% of American adults are vegans. A 2000 poll conducted by Zogby for the Vegetarian Resource Group suggested closer to 0.9% of the adult American population may be vegan. [5] In the UK, research showed that 0.4%, approximately 250,000 people, were vegan in 2001. [6]" --- Wikipedia

"The American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada state that "well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence."[1] "



And I eat plenty of meat.

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Others will only eat fish (lower standard of animal, I assume, is their logic)


Fish are not mammals. mammals are animals that give birth to live young, and last time I checked, fish didn't do that.


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Trekkie, you are getting a bit on the geeky side today.... :roll:

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^ that is actuall pretty bad.

Are vegetarian diets healthy?

Vegetarian diets can be very healthy, but eating a balanced diet when you are vegetarian usually requires a little extra attention. Because vegetarians eliminate certain foods from their diets, they often need to work to add foods into their diet that will provide the nutrients found in meat products. By eating a variety of foods including fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, you can get the vitamins and nutrients you need from non-meat sources. By eating legumes, soy foods, nuts, and eggs, you can get the protein that you need to grow. Other nutrients to be concerned with are the minerals iron and calcium and the vitamins D and B12, which are especially important for vegans.

*Carbohydrates provide energy and vitamins for your brain and muscles. Grain products, especially whole grains, fruits, and certain vegetables are very important because they provide the carbohydrate, fiber, and many vitamins that your body needs.

*Fat is needed by your body to stay healthy. Fat provides essential fatty acids and helps your body absorb certain vitamins. Vegetarians need to include sources of fat such as nuts, oils, or avocado.

*Protein is needed for your muscles to grow. Vegetarians have to be careful not to just cut meat out of their diet, but to replace the meat with high-protein vegetarian foods. Nuts, peanut butter, soy foods, and legumes such as beans, peas, and lentils all provide protein. Protein is also found in dairy foods like milk, yogurt, and cheese for vegetarians who eat these foods.

*Zinc is important for growth and your immune system. Zinc is found in whole grains, fortified breakfast cereals, dairy products, soy foods, and legumes.

*Iron is important for your blood and is found in beans, seeds, soy foods, fortified breakfast cereals, and dark green leafy vegetables, like spinach. Vitamin C helps your body to absorb iron so eating foods rich in vitamin C, like citrus fruits and certain vegetables (like tomatoes) is important, as well.

*Calcium is important to build strong bones for later in life. Calcium is found in dairy products like milk, yogurt, and cheese and dark green leafy vegetables like kale and spinach. Some foods are not naturally high in calcium but have calcium added to them; these foods are called calcium-fortified. Some soy products, orange juices, cereals, and cereal bars are calcium fortified. Look at the food label to find out which brands are highest in calcium.

*Vitamin D is important for strong bones and is particularly important for people who live in colder climates because you need the sun to make it. During the winter the sun is not as strong and you are not able to make the Vitamin D you need, so it is especially important to make sure you get Vitamin D from the foods you eat, such as fortified dairy products and soy milk.

*Vitamin B12 is the only nutrient that needs to be added to a vegan-vegetarian diet. Nutritional yeast flakes, fortified soy milk and cereals contain vitamin B12.

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I need meat to survive.
It.... tastes... really... good... and ...JUICY!!!!

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Well, most people don't just become vegetarians so they can parade around like saints. A lot do it for health reasons. Cutting meat out of one's diet really can help them lose weight and live a healthier lifestyle.

What annoys me is when people try the whole "holier than thou" method of trying to seduce people into being vegetarians. Humanity has lived off meat since the beginning and we love the taste of it. Vegetarians are equally savage for killing those innocent non-violent plants they eat. :(

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Crio3mo wrote:
Others will only eat fish (lower standard of animal, I assume, is their logic)


Fish are not mammals. mammals are animals that give birth to live young, and last time I checked, fish didn't do that.


Where'd I say that fish were mammals? I used a period to seperate two seperate thoughts.

My entire quote: "Some only refuse to eat mammal meat. Others will only eat fish (lower standard of animal, I assume, is their logic)."

The word "others" at the start of the second sentence is the key word.

Beeeeesiiiideeeeessss all of this...

Ever heard of monotremes? Your own definition of mammals incorrect.

"Most mammals give birth to live young, but a few (the monotremes) lay eggs."

"Live birth also occurs in some non-mammalian species, such as guppies and hammerhead sharks; thus it is not a distinguishing characteristic of mammals."

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So I guess I'm right either way. If your definition is the correct one (giving live birth), fish like guppies give live birth, and therefore are mammals.

Or I'm right as in the fact that live birth isn't part of the definition of mammals.

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"Mammals have body hair, have 3 middle ear bones (the malleus, incus, and stapes), and nourish their young with milk that females produce in modified sweat glands that are called mammary glands. "

^Best definition I could find. Correct me if it's wrong.

Anyway, I'll stop now, I seemed to have drifted a bit off-topic.

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guys please don't flame each other.

yeah i know how the "i'm a vegetarian and i'm better than you" thing. i just say i'm speeding up the reincarnation process :D

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Reincarnation? Please.

When you die, you're dead. Your body rots and you end. No heaven, no hell, no reincarnation.

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Reincarnation? Please.

When you die, you're dead. Your body rots and you end. No heaven, no hell, no reincarnation.

That's atheism


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Alexandr wrote:
That's atheism


And...?

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murdererdood wrote:
Alexandr wrote:
That's atheism


And...?

And what :?


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