Why exactly would anyone have a sense of pride of ensuring the suffering of people who can hardly survive otherwise because of their selfishness. XD
You don't have to dispute a nation's right to make their own immigration policies to reflect on how disgusting the policies are though.
What else a nation has a right to do is to create their own form of government. So they can be fascist dictators if they want, and hurt their citizens or people otherwise. But that never stopped countries going to war with each other either in opposition in beliefs or because they were actually hurting people. Immigration policies and that fascist government thing aren't even that different - people are destroyed by both. So yeah a nation has a right to define their citizenship and benefits of citizenship as they please. Just as they also have the right to establish government as they please. But when I say fascist dictators I don't mean to compare the immigration policies of nations towards actual leaders of the past and present (not that the comparison is impossible to make).
The immigration problem can definitely be applied to other countries, but it seems to be the most predominant in the US... Some people in the US also treat it with the most animosity towards immigrants, it seems. Also, embracing freedom seems to be huge in the US which they use to define themselves - but this is definitely not limited to the US - despite attitudes or policies that reflect the opposite. So when the US restricts freedom, it's more of a topic than when North Korea does.
But just because you're talking about the situation in the United States doesn't mean what you are saying only applies to the US.
[editing lol o you said globalism i dont even know what that means]
Globalization is funny. So many US - and those of other nations - corporations invade povertyish places to rape them for profit to send the money and products back to their respective countries. Yet when a person who is devastated by this wants to come in to the US to survive, well it's all SHUT DOWN THE BORDER!!!
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Alot of what I know is from recent immigrants to Canada. Some people have to stay and fight for survival in the country they live in while others have to leave to survive. Corporations cross international borders all the time in search of people to exploit for profit and no one stops them. They call it “globalization”. On the other hand, the victims of corporate domination are told that they can’t cross borders in search of better lives, and are forced to stay and deal with the social, economic, and environmental messes the companies leave behind when they inevitably move their operations to places with even more “favourable business climates” (re: lower wages, lax environmental laws, tax breaks). Looks like capitalism and human-rights don’t mix.
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the notion that Patriotism and National identity are bad things is taking it quite far. In truth, they aren't bad things.
I agree too, when talking about them without context they are neutral. They can be good or bad things. But they are dangerous weapons the way they are generally (or at least can be) used and corrupted. The way Ryan was talking about it, I think it means to be about the way they have predominately become in the US and such.
