Remembrance day

Warren · **Posted:** November 18th, 2010, 12:27 pm

I didn't realize that that specific school was the only place to receive an education at that level in the country lol

I said brainwashed as in Remembrance day in public schools (at least here) to the kids is "support the troops, support war, support freedom, stand and fight with the troops" and it all just becomes an unquestioning militaristic day. It's never "remember the soldiers that fought and died and the hardships they experienced and the peace they fought for as to avoid these situations in the future" which the day is kind of described as but not practiced that way. (unrelated but how many canadian children don't like hockey... so it's nice that you can't watch/go to a hockey game with all this militarism intergraded between periods and pre and post game)
And then on those kids ends they are confused why they should support fighting "their people" so they decide to "support the troops, support war, support freedom, stand and fight with the troops" of the other end and look to what the ridiculous stuff other people are doing that they see in the media as the appropriate way to deal with it. I don't think the best way to deal with this is to just let them grow up as terrorists.

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CreepyPirate · **Posted:** November 18th, 2010, 1:45 pm

You get kicked out of school and you'll be lucky to find another that'll take you on. You get kicked out of school for starting your own little terrorist ring and threatning to murder other pupils and well I'd love to know the name of the school that takes ou on cause I'd like to avoid it at all costs. They wont get into a public school again.

Rememberance day is nothing like that here. Schools hold a minutes silence and that's it for the most part.

Warren · **Posted:** November 18th, 2010, 2:46 pm

How exactly is kicking them out of school and leaving it at that is going to remove all their "I am a terrorist"ness? They are 12 ... obviously it's something you can help them work out and reverse now but "oh wow I'm not in school anymore I can only have a ******* job now" isn't going to make them be like "well now that my life will be **** I better stop this stuff". Once they take those ideas into adulthood it's not going to be as easy to remove them. And then they can actually pose a threat, plus not like a terrorist organization is going to be like "oh well you don't have a high school diploma so.. I don't think we want you to join".

I'm sure there are more forms of education provided to "troubled" students than public schools. Plus I was never suggesting that putting them back in school and leaving it at that and everything would be all good :-s

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** November 19th, 2010, 4:00 am

Your missing or ignoring the point. One or the other. They threatened to murder an innocent person. They have no place in that school or any school. 12 or not you know the difference between right and wrong.

So yes we can help them. Lock them up in a young offenders for a few years and see if that sets them straight. The solution certainly is not to stick them back in and risk lives because boohoo they might become a terrorist. If it was a white guy making threats towards a muslim student you can bet your *** they'd get this sort of treatment they shouldn't be treated any differently.

Warren · **Posted:** November 19th, 2010, 10:20 am

Yeah like I said they do know the difference between right and wrong but it is probably interfered with influences to the point they believe they are right. They did threaten to kill an innocent person ... and the soldiers are honoured for killing innocent people. Yeah it is all complicated and kids aren't dumb but it's not like it is impossible for them to get confused in it. Please don't take that as I am saying that makes it okay for them to do any of this, I'm just saying if they can be helped with this why should they be given up on left to run around and grow up as terrorists... unless the plan was to execute or imprison for life.
And you are missing where I said I never said put them back in public school and leave it at that rofl. Do you not have education systems for troubled students in your country or education systems for juvenile offenders? XD And even if I did somehow say put them back into a public school (which I don't think I did...) obviously "work with them" wouldn't end at that. Give them another chance at public school and assume everything will be all good? That's just as dumb as kicking them out and expecting everything to work out.

And the solution is certainly not to lock them away for a few years and when they come out without the ability to even be employed by McDonalds expect them to somehow be a respectable citizen after it.

And yeah if it was the white kid that threatened to kill them I wouldn't think the solution was to remove their chance of education unless they pay to go to a private school and think they would straighten up because of it. And that is a different set of circumstances too lol

CreepyPirate · **Posted:** November 19th, 2010, 10:56 am

No. There isn't a school for thugs. Not that i know of. Public, private, home schooled. They blew there chance of a free education.

HOWEVER! If we lock them up they get an education in there. And i doubt they'll be so eager to spread there ******* in there so it'll stamp that one out as well. Who says prisons don't work.

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