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Author:  Kirby [ August 5th, 2008, 5:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Norton or AVG Free?
Hey. I'm thinking about geting AVG Free. Here's the catch, though. Unless there isn't proof that it's better than Norton Antivirus, it doesn't get through to my dad. So pick which one you think is better:
Norton Antivirus, a paid for version
AVG Free, free download
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Author:  Flash [ August 5th, 2008, 6:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
AVG free is so much better it's not even funny. I tested both out.

Flash
Author:  Shane [ August 5th, 2008, 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
AVG without question. It's much lighter than Norton. All you need to say to him is that AVG is used by lots of people and is well known in the online community. You can also say that AVG will be lighter on your system. You won't have to put in a call to your resident computer expert (heaven forbid geek squad) to make the computer faster and clean out all the junk Norton leaves behind. The point that has to be made is that the Norton of 2008 is not the same Norton that existed in the early 2000's. It has changed signifcantly since then.

Another thing that you shouldn't say to your dad is that anti-virus programs do nothing. The main problem in the present day and age is spyware. AVG doesn't handle spyware. It *is* possible to run a computer without virus and spyware protection if you know what you are doing, though I would not recommend it.

If he absolute wants to spend money on an anti-virus solution tell him to check out Nod32.

It is all behavior based, if you are careful you really can prevent infections in the first place. For instance is don't download any programs without checking it out in depth first. Also don't download email attachments with those videos that the older people still like to send around :oops:


What I would recomend for security:
- NAT Router or windows firewall (XP SP2+ and Vista)
- Windows Defender (Download with XP, Comes with Vista)
- AVG Free or if you want to spend money nod32.

Anything more would be overkill to have for general use. If you want more spyware programs you can get them in the event you get an infection.
Author:  The Unknown Man [ August 5th, 2008, 8:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
Shane wrote:
If he absolute wants to spend money on an anti-virus solution tell him to check out Nod32.


Yea. i have the same thing on my PC. Free mind you. There is also Kaspersky
I still prefer Nod32 over Kaspersky though.
Author:  Ranging God [ August 5th, 2008, 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
Well, I would go with Norton out of those two, but Norton uses to much power.

Honestly I would use Trend Micro. I have tried a lot of fire walls and anti viruses and Trend Micro is by FAR the best.

Check it out

http://us.trendmicro.com/us/products/pe ... urity-pro/index.html

But before you buy it, try the trial out first. To see if you like it.
Author:  Pfkninenines [ August 5th, 2008, 8:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
I agree fully with Shane for the AVG. (Yeah, a bit of a cop-out, but I've posted on other threads in support for AVG, no need to stress it more)

As for comparitive tests, check out AV-Comparitives.org. They compare Anti-Virus programs and give them a rating based on their success with thwarting their viruses. I know I've seen other more-private tests that show percentages, but I haven't been able to find them again.
Their most recent publication ( http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2008_05.php ) in May, and it is a 'Retrospective / ProActive' look on the common programs.

EDIT - Found where their yearly results (which apparently take into account more information, and are in general more reliable) [here]

Also - Should have fixed the site-redirection errors..If not go to the main site. They've got some issue of people linking to them.
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Author:  Ranging God [ August 5th, 2008, 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
Pfkninenines wrote:
I agree fully with Shane for the AVG. (Yeah, a bit of a cop-out, but I've posted on other threads in support for AVG, no need to stress it more)

As for comparitive tests, check out AV-Comparitives.org. They compare Anti-Virus programs and give them a rating based on their success with thwarting their viruses. I know I've seen other more-private tests that show percentages, but I haven't been able to find them again.
Their most recent publication in May, and it is a 'Retrospective / ProActive' look on the common programs.


Interesting site, you link is broken btw
I think you wanted this link http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2008_05.php
Author:  Jasonmrc [ August 5th, 2008, 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
Shane wrote:
AVG without question.


Yep.

Whenever someone asks me if N(payed item) is better than Y(free item) I try to compare the two for them to see.

I have never used Norton myself (I don't have extra money to waste) but my friend has it and I've had to deal with it once or twice when trying to do something with their computer.

On my Windows (this one is Linux) I have AVG Free and it's never caused me a problem. The only time I or my family has had problems with AVG was when my Brother had AVG and ZA Anti-virus running at the same time (when he had updated the ZA it had activated its Anti-virus I think). Once he disabled ZA's anti-virus it worked fine.

Let's look at their length:price ratio:
A 1-year license of Norton costs $79.99 - 1 Mo.:$6.66, 1 Wk.:$1.53, 1 Day:$0.21.
An infinite-year license of AVG Free costs $0.00 - 1 Mo.:$0.00, 1 Wk.:$0.00, 1 Day:$0.00

Now granted, Norton does give alot of extras: Antivirus, Antispyware, Email scanning, Antiphishing, Rootkit detection, Identity protection, Web site authentication, Network monitoring, Firewall protection, Automatic backup and restore, 2GB secured online storage†, PC performance tuneups, Automatic updates, Embedded support, Optional antispam and parental controls, but do those out-weigh the annoyingness of removing it?

With AVG Free, and other free security programs, you can accomplish all the needed security features for a much lower price ($0.00 per year).

Usually all the free programs will not equal or exceed the amount of resources needed for Norton, it all depends on which ones you get.

I'd definitely suggest you try to show him the difference. If he switches to AVG he'll save $79.99 a year (that's a few gig of RAM a year if you wanted more, or it could be used for other computer hardware).

Shane wrote:
You won't have to put in a call to your resident computer expert (heaven forbid geek squad) to make the computer faster and clean out all the junk Norton leaves behind.


Oh please, not those amateurs. You'd have to clean the computer out again to take their stuff off.
Author:  Kirby [ August 6th, 2008, 7:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
Alright, thank you for all of the description in your answers. I probably have enough information atm, but please keep this unlocked for other people to comment for backup. :)
Author:  Evelyn [ August 6th, 2008, 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
[color=#00BFFF]Norton/Symantec is in it for money.

AVG is in it to protect us.[/color]
Author:  Kirby [ August 7th, 2008, 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
Cliff Dude wrote:
Norton/Symantec is in it for money.

AVG is in it to protect us.

Does this mean that there will be no ads/pop-ups while installing it saying to "Buy the full version of AVG"
Author:  Jasonmrc [ August 7th, 2008, 6:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
Kirby wrote:
Cliff Dude wrote:
Norton/Symantec is in it for money.

AVG is in it to protect us.

Does this mean that there will be no ads/pop-ups while installing it saying to "Buy the full version of AVG"

It will of course have ads on the site stating what the paid version does, but it will not shove the paid version down your throat.

I've never gotten a popup on AVG's site.
Author:  Kirby [ August 7th, 2008, 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
Jasonmrc wrote:
Kirby wrote:
Cliff Dude wrote:
Norton/Symantec is in it for money.

AVG is in it to protect us.

Does this mean that there will be no ads/pop-ups while installing it saying to "Buy the full version of AVG"

It will of course have ads on the site stating what the paid version does, but it will not shove the paid version down your throat.

I've never gotten a popup on AVG's site.

That's not what I meant. I meant will I get like a pop up advertising to buy it once i log on to my XP account?
Author:  Marking22 [ August 7th, 2008, 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
i love avg over norton it seem liks avg gets the job done
Author:  Pfkninenines [ August 7th, 2008, 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Norton or AVG Free?
Kirby wrote:
That's not what I meant. I meant will I get like a pop up advertising to buy it once i log on to my XP account?


Nope. For AVG the only Ad I know of is when you update, or perhaps it's when you open the console. Just one click of a button sucks the Ad back in to the console, and you'd never knew it was there. Nothing big either way, definitely not something to put you off of AVG.
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