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| Author: | Slimppu [ October 16th, 2008, 7:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Suggestion: Removal of post count |
What the title said. In PhoenixEmpire's topic in Non-RS discussion which was about the importance of discussion value, MQ said that a more relaxed way of discussion would only cause people to desperately raise their post count. That is true, though, but why do we need post count? It only brings competition, and through competition, spamming. Many people post short and rather useless comments all the time, just to raise their post count. In the end, post count doesn't even bring renown on the forums. What does it really do? If you post a lot in short time, people will only think you're a spammer. What REALLY brings renown is what you post, not how much you post. Also I'm kind of annoyed about the state of forums after removal of Sandbox. There is no place to relax. In Non-RS discussion we're forced to stay on subject and post only material with discussion value. The quality and maturity of the forums increase, yes, but it's not fun. With the removal of post count there would be no reason to spam and people wouldn't have to be so careful on what they comment, thus increasing happiness of members overall. And people can still discuss important subjects if they want to. So that's what I'm saying. We don't need post count. |
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| Author: | Adbot [ October 16th, 2008, 7:38 am ] |
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| Author: | Connor [ October 16th, 2008, 7:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
I'd have to agree with the removal of post count. Non-Runescape media has a weekly "whats ur fav music" topic, 2-3 good topics, and the rest are topics that have no discussion but still get posts because people want dragon member. Non-Runescape discussion feels like no one reads the original post. They go there to get 5-10 post count a day just so they can get an extra rank in clan chat or on the forums. Without post count everyone would be the same  .
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| Author: | GANGSTERT0ASTER [ October 16th, 2008, 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
i never really thought that it mattered how much you posted i think the sandbox coming back would be nice and the removal of post count does sound good |
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| Author: | Connor [ October 16th, 2008, 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
GANGSTERT0ASTER wrote: i never really thought that it mattered how much you posted i think the sandbox coming back would be nice and the removal of post count does sound good No one's suggesting the sandbox coming back. That would just cause the problem of there being no topics of discussion. With post count removed and the sandbox removed people won't have a reason to make posts without thinking. Giving the forums more discussion. |
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| Author: | Ryan [ October 16th, 2008, 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
Afraid I disagree here. I'm sorry but that's what you get for messing up the Sandbox, if you'd have been as mature as you are in the rest of the forums it would still be here and there would be less pointless topics. |
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| Author: | Dokter Bob [ October 16th, 2008, 9:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
How will we deal with the ranks? o.O |
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| Author: | Adbot [ October 16th, 2008, 9:22 am ] |
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| Author: | Sir Xenox [ October 16th, 2008, 9:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
I suppose I agree about getting rid of the post count. I've been on other forums before where sometimes, people just post so that they can get their post count up. Since I'm a mod on one forum, it can get really annoying having to delete peoples posts because they are just spam. |
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| Author: | Connor [ October 16th, 2008, 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
Dokter Bob wrote: How will we deal with the ranks? o.O  ^ from zybez. I don't see the point of having dragon member, rune member, ect. I really should've posted this XD |
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| Author: | Brad [ October 16th, 2008, 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
Ryan wrote: Afraid I disagree here. I'm sorry but that's what you get for messing up the Sandbox, if you'd have been as mature as you are in the rest of the forums it would still be here and there would be less pointless topics. Agree with you 100%. The sandbox was removed because people abused it, and you have to deal with the consequences. The sandbox wasn't used as 'lets go in this forum, relax and have some discussions about things too casual for the Non-RS forums'. It was 'lets go in to this forum, put other people down constantly and act like total jerks'. On the point about people spamming to gain post count and ranks... I've only seen it in a few cases. It's not enough of a problem to warrant removing post count I feel. If it ever became that much of a problem I'd have no problem without it though. |
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| Author: | Ryan [ October 16th, 2008, 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
Brad wrote: Ryan wrote: Afraid I disagree here. I'm sorry but that's what you get for messing up the Sandbox, if you'd have been as mature as you are in the rest of the forums it would still be here and there would be less pointless topics. Agree with you 100%. The sandbox was removed because people abused it, and you have to deal with the consequences. The sandbox wasn't used as 'lets go in this forum, relax and have some discussions about things too casual for the Non-RS forums'. It was 'lets go in to this forum, put other people down constantly and act like total jerks'. On the point about people spamming to gain post count and ranks... I've only seen it in a few cases. It's not enough of a problem to warrant removing post count I feel. If it ever became that much of a problem I'd have no problem without it though. That was what I was trying to get across, but I don't think Connor and Slimppu totally understood when I was talking to them.  There in't that much of a major outbreak in spam on RSBANDB anyway. Its much larger communities where people get overworked by post count and turn into what some people call a post *****. |
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| Author: | CreepyPirate [ October 16th, 2008, 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
Last time someone we considered to be posting over the top and just doing it for ranks had there count reset. I think that way works fine, i can't be the first to get to 10k posts if it's not there come on, give me some support here. 
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| Author: | Slimppu [ October 16th, 2008, 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
Brad wrote: The sandbox wasn't used as 'lets go in this forum, relax and have some discussions about things too casual for the Non-RS forums'. It was 'lets go in to this forum, put other people down constantly and act like total jerks'. I didn't say that. I'm not suggesting to give sandbox back, I'm suggesting a non-strict posting environment where people won't be punished for every irrelevant post.  Also, good job missing my point, which, in fact, has nothing do with spamming. |
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| Author: | Brad [ October 16th, 2008, 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
Slimppu wrote: Brad wrote: The sandbox wasn't used as 'lets go in this forum, relax and have some discussions about things too casual for the Non-RS forums'. It was 'lets go in to this forum, put other people down constantly and act like total jerks'. Also, good job missing my point, which, in fact, has nothing do with spamming. I'll quote the first few lines of your post for you, maybe you should read them: Quote: In PhoenixEmpire's topic in Non-RS discussion which was about the importance of discussion value, MQ said that a more relaxed way of discussion would only cause people to desperately raise their post count. That is true, though, but why do we need post count? It only brings competition, and through competition, spamming. Many people post short and rather useless comments all the time, just to raise their post count.
In the end, post count doesn't even bring renown on the forums. What does it really do? If you post a lot in short time, people will only think you're a spammer. What REALLY brings renown is what you post, not how much you post. |
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| Author: | Shane [ October 16th, 2008, 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
Mike and I have discussed this in the past on a multitude of occasions. We decided that removing post count really wouldn't fix anything. Also if a post is irrelevant it's spam. So we would still warn/remove posts that were spam even if there was no post count. |
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| Author: | Slimppu [ October 17th, 2008, 2:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suggestion: Removal of post count |
Brad wrote: Slimppu wrote: Brad wrote: The sandbox wasn't used as 'lets go in this forum, relax and have some discussions about things too casual for the Non-RS forums'. It was 'lets go in to this forum, put other people down constantly and act like total jerks'. Also, good job missing my point, which, in fact, has nothing do with spamming. I'll quote the first few lines of your post for you, maybe you should read them: Quote: In PhoenixEmpire's topic in Non-RS discussion which was about the importance of discussion value, MQ said that a more relaxed way of discussion would only cause people to desperately raise their post count. That is true, though, but why do we need post count? It only brings competition, and through competition, spamming. Many people post short and rather useless comments all the time, just to raise their post count. In the end, post count doesn't even bring renown on the forums. What does it really do? If you post a lot in short time, people will only think you're a spammer. What REALLY brings renown is what you post, not how much you post. Fine, I'll clear it up to you if you find it that hard. First: Go read the thread made by PhoenixEmpire in Non-RS discussion (the one that was instantly locked) Now do we really want to keep on the subject so strictly all the time? No. So why won't we fix it? Because people would spam to get their post counts up! So how to fix it? Remove post count. There. As simple as I could make it. Nobody should have trouble reading it now. The first lines are only to prove why post count is useless, making it no trouble to remove it. |
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