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Author:  Tidus [ March 21st, 2008, 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Efficient ways to train:
Hello, I'm trying to figure out some efficient ways to train the following skills.

Herblore (I'm clueless) (68 -> 80)
Farming (I was planning to plant trees) (63 -> 80)
SUMMONING (I have no clue at all) (1 -> 80)
Agility (61 -> 80)
Mining (Is powermining Granite still faster than iron?)

Thank you. (I know there are these kinds of threads way too often but I really need to know since I haven't trained these skills for a long time and G.E. destroyed my old ways of training farming and herblore)
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Author:  Ranging God [ March 21st, 2008, 9:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Efficient ways to train:
Wilderness is still teh best place for agility I think. YOu just gotta get past Revrents
Author:  Chief Snake [ March 21st, 2008, 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Efficient ways to train:
If you don't mind how long it will take you to raise farming (for example you could do other skills in between and it would even out) then a good idea may be to plant fruit trees. They're the best XP for money and time besides calquats. When you're able to do calquats too, at 72, 12k XP for 20k is wicked. :P Sadly there's only one calquat patch and they take forever to grow, but it's really worth it. You can do basic trees (like willows) on the side if you can afford to, but the XP you get from them is not even close to what you get from fruit trees so they're only worth investing in if you plan on doing two or three runs a day - three being the most you can fit in unless you're pulling an all nighter or something.

Depending on how much you can afford to spend on farming, I would recommend orange trees as a minimum, or pineapple plants. Orange tree seeds are roughly 2k each (I think) and the last time I bought pineapple seeds they were about 15k each. This makes orange trees the more preferable option for efficiency, but pineapple plants will get the job done more quickly. Anything above them, I consider to be breaking the bank. ;)

Unavoidably, farming is going to cost you a lot of money, so the idea is really just minimising that cost. Because of this, farming is not a skill that you can really power-train unless you chain farm the allotments which even then costs a small fortune and is not worth the effort.
Author:  Total Plox [ March 21st, 2008, 10:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Efficient ways to train:
Herblore - Dunno

Farming - I'd say just go all out. Buy Fruit Trees and Regular Trees, the highest possible. It will cost you a lot of money, but I think it'll be worth it. Otherwise, Fruit Trees and Herb Patches, making 1 or 2 runs per day.

Summoning - First you have to do the quest, which gets you to level 4. From there, make the best possible pouch from the Gold Charms, and pair it with Tears of Guthix.

From there, start killing Roaches in the new Stronghold or Shadow Warriors, since they drop a good amount of Crimson Charms, or you can kill Ice Warriors for Gold Charms (Crimson are better). There's also Waterfiends, level 155, that are supposed to drop tons of charms, so you can try that. Once you have enough Crimson Charms, and are level 32, go to the Bee farm south of Camelot with Insect Repellent in your inventory. Get a full inventory of Honey Combs and bank in Catherby. Repeat. Now you need to move your house to Taverly, and get some glories or dueling rings. Tele to your home, run to Taverly to make your pouches, and bank at Edge/Cw.

You'll need to make like 14k Honey Badgers, which is 30m in Shards alone... Also, you'll be collecting charms for a month for that. I wouldn't suggest going to 80 Summoning. There may be a more efficient way to train, but I don't know it. But collecting charms is an extremely slow process.

Agility - Although the Wilderness Course is your best bet right now, apparently Reverants are making the whole ordeal insanely hard. They actually come inside the course and walk across the obstacles to come and kill you, which is ridiculous. I think at level 72 the Ape Atoll course becomes the best, but I'm not sure what you can do before that.

Mining - You'll need to have beaten Lunar Diplomacy and possibly Dream Mentor for the Humidify spell, which will refill any waterskins in your inventory. This makes powermining Granite still the best way to mine. Addiv did this, and he recently got 99 Mining from it.

Good luck man...
Author:  addiv [ March 21st, 2008, 11:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Efficient ways to train:
Mining: If you can use the Lunar humidify spell or have the water tiara from one of the newer quests, mine granite. The experience rate for granite is only 40K/hr compared to 35k/hr for iron but you don't click as much with granite. Either way you go, I can help you find good mining spots if you need help.
Author:  jake the cat [ March 22nd, 2008, 5:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Efficient ways to train:
When you say efficient, I think of something different. I think of how the fruits of one labor benefit another. Unfortunately, you've picked some pretty independent skills. Still, here's my thoughts.

Agility: Ape atoll, even if you fall, is definately the best. (Take a knife to cut pineapple for food.)

Farming: Yes trees of course, but also herbs. I make the allotment rounds and do only herbs. Anything above harralander is worthwhile. Good farming exp and good supplies for herblore.

Herblore: Anything except range pot. Collecting zammy wine takes too long. Most of the other seconds can be gathered pretty painlessly.

Mining: You didn't mention smithing, but I mine gold for the smithing (with gauntlets) benefit. I mine on Brimhaven. I start in edgeville, fairy ring to Grail Castle, whistle to brimhaven, gather a load and glory ammy back to edgeville. (You can save glories by using the grail castle/whissle to get back to Zanaris.)
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Author:  merlin6and17 [ March 22nd, 2008, 7:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Efficient ways to train:
Tidus wrote:
Hello, I'm trying to figure out some efficient ways to train the following skills.

Herblore (I'm clueless) (68 -> 80)
Farming (I was planning to plant trees) (63 -> 80)
SUMMONING (I have no clue at all) (1 -> 80)
Agility (61 -> 80)
Mining (Is powermining Granite still faster than iron?)

Thank you. (I know there are these kinds of threads way too often but I really need to know since I haven't trained these skills for a long time and G.E. destroyed my old ways of training farming and herblore)


Herblore: I am currently doing the highest potions I can for my level and then sell on GE. Alwasy throw in the ones I need for combat as I get the herbs.
Farming: Plant trees, chop down trees, dig up trees, begin cycle again :lol:
Summoning: Cant help you here, about half of my levels have been from "Tears"
Agility: Ape atoll until 70, then do the Dorgeshuun course.
Mining: I dont powermine, but use the mine in Yatizso as I use what I mine to build up my smithing as well.
Good luck. :)
Author:  gun_hippy [ March 22nd, 2008, 10:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Efficient ways to train:
Tidus wrote:
Hello, I'm trying to figure out some efficient ways to train the following skills.

Herblore (I'm clueless) (68 -> 80)
Farming (I was planning to plant trees) (63 -> 80)
SUMMONING (I have no clue at all) (1 -> 80)
Agility (61 -> 80)
Mining (Is powermining Granite still faster than iron?)

Thank you. (I know there are these kinds of threads way too often but I really need to know since I haven't trained these skills for a long time and G.E. destroyed my old ways of training farming and herblore)


Herblore: Serum 207 is the cheapest from when you can make them to 99, slow xp though. For decent XP, super defence pots are the least lossy (for all decent xp pots with guyable ingredients).

Farming: Not my Area of expertise, fruit and tree seeds for good xp (costly), Herbs for cheap slow xp, a mix of both for a bit of both, your call.

Summoning: All the fast ways are expensive. Just kill stuff and save every single charm, i do it via slayer, but nechs/dust devils are the best i've found without paying a lot of cash for ice bursts, if you have cash to waste then burst rock lobsters or melee waterfiends (not nice). This is very expensive no matter what, unless you want to do it all on gold charms, which would take about 40 years.

Agil: Wildy to 70, ape atoll from thereon in.

Mining: Yes, granite. Lunar spell "Humidify" helps for pouch refills.
Author:  Jess [ March 22nd, 2008, 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Efficient ways to train:
Since I'm F2P, I can't help with anything cept the mining maybe...I believe that powermining iron, in Al Karid or anywhere in members that can, is still the most efficient way of mining.

Hope that might of helped, and good luck with your training! :)
Author:  kamakiri [ March 22nd, 2008, 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Efficient ways to train:
Tidus wrote:
Hello, I'm trying to figure out some efficient ways to train the following skills.

Herblore (I'm clueless) (68 -> 80)
Farming (I was planning to plant trees) (63 -> 80)
SUMMONING (I have no clue at all) (1 -> 80)
Agility (61 -> 80)
Mining (Is powermining Granite still faster than iron?)


When I thinkof efficient, I think of skill relationships as well. The biggest problem I see here is that you are only taking xp into account with things like power mining granite. You need gp to train summoning, farming, and herblore yet get zero gp per hour of granite mining.

Granite mining: 45k xp per hour
Gold mining: 33k mining per hour

Mine granite for 2 hours is 90k mining xp
Mine gold for 1.5 hours, smelting and selling for a half hour is:
50k mining, 45k smithing, and 150kgp.

With arzinian mines, you can even mine more gold per hour. That 150k buys quite a bit of herblore xp and seeds. With summoning beasts of burder and the ring/whistle method of mining gold it is even faster.

I trained my farming and herblore into the 80s by doing herb runs 4-6 times a day. Develope a system that works for you. I can hit all 5 herb patches in five minutes now. With smapdragon seeds I get upwards of 100kgp per trip.

Some people might say don't let them die, but do the math yourself. 15% die, so you have the chance of getting 100% of 1 herb patch or 85% of 5 patches. You can still make money just letting stuff die. Tree payments are also a money loser, because only 1 in 10 dies. The value of the payment for 10 trees is more than the cost of a seed, especially in the case of yews and magics, the worst trees to pay for.

Agility - Just do the wildy course. Bring buckets of strawberries and an anti poison. The revs poison you. if one appears, try and just log out. you can do it by going through the tube, or up and down a ladder. Then log in on another server and leave the rev to kill whoever is left on the course (hehe).

Summoning - Might as well wait for the update to come out and see what happens. I would also say that over half of my levels are from tears as well. One thing to focus on are spirit spiders. Combine that with snapdragon farming, and you have easy seconds to make super restores. They well well and are the most profit of all seeds. Spider carcasses are a bargain at 300gp in the GE.
Author:  Bellicosity [ March 23rd, 2008, 6:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Efficient ways to train:
if you want some unique farming styles, you can ravage the catherby allotment patch w/vinesweeper. (little to no money required).

ok, at level 40 farming this was the best exp i could get (on mithril door), so i suspect at 60+ its just as good. start out watermelon seeds, your highest herb, and whatever flower you want (if you even use one). use an amulet of nature on the herbs and amulet of farming on one of the allotments. now go to vinesweeper, and start collecting points (ask me on messenger for a 1st person tutorial on my fast point method if you decide to use this). a short description of fast points: get your flags and buy oggleroots. run to the northeast corner and dig there. this usually opens up a large patch with a pretty good indication of where a seed is. flag the seed, then start digging up more till a farmer comes. the goal here is to get one flag at a time, but at the same time, getting the large group of points you get fro clearing large areas of empty patches. (you know, when you dig and a 5x5 area dissappears :P )

repeat untill your'e out of flags, killing any rabits that you want to. run back, get more flags and start flagging again. after 3 trips, leave the farm to check your seeds. water them, harvest anything ready to be harvested and bank, plant new stuff, then go back into vinesweeper. you cna buy watermellon seeds for a very fair price there, and at the rte you gather points, its nothing. you need only buy watermelon seeds and kwarm seeds. (ranarrs are less exp and 5x the points to buy). if you feel you're ahead on points enough, you can, and should, buy exp. at level 40 its 1 point per exp. i'll run a test for the exp at level 66 (potatoreaper's level) for you in a moment.

i'm pretty sure thats the "fastest" exp, but if you want to farm in the background and train another skill instead, you should just plant trees.
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