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Author:  trekkie [ November 7th, 2012, 5:45 pm ]
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Puerto Ricans faced a fundamental question on Election Day: Should they change their ties with the United States?

Citizens in the U.S. island territory cannot vote in the U.S. presidential election, but many were excited to participate in a referendum on whether to push the territory toward statehood, greater autonomy or independence.

Car horns blared and party flags waved after polling stations closed following what election officials said was a high voter turnout. During the day, many voters carried umbrellas against the blistering tropical sun as temperatures neared 90 degrees Fahrenheit (31 degrees Celsius).

The two-part referendum first asked voters if they wanted to change Puerto Rico's 114-year relationship with the United States. A second question gave voters three alternatives if they wanted a change: become a U.S. state, gain independence, or have a "sovereign free association," a designation that would give more autonomy for the territory of 4 million people.

With 243 of 1,643 precincts reporting late Tuesday, 75,188 voters, or 53 percent, said they did not want to continue under the current political status. Forty-seven percent, or 67,304 voters, supported the status quo.

On the second question, 65 percent favored statehood, followed by 31 percent for sovereign free association and 4 percent for independence.

"Puerto Rico has to be a state. There is no other option," said 25-year-old Jerome Lefebre, who picked up his grandfather before driving to the polls. "We're doing OK, but we could do better. We would receive more benefits, a lot more financial help."

But 42-year-old Ramon Lopez de Azua said he favored the current system, which grants U.S. citizenship but prevents Puerto Ricans from voting for president unless they live in the United States, and gives those on the island only limited representation in Congress.

"Puerto Rico's problem is not its political status," he said. "I think that the United States is the best country in the world, but I am Puerto Rican first."

Both President Barack Obama and rival Mitt Romney said they supported the referendum, with Obama pledging to respect the will of the people if there was a clear majority. Any change would require approval by the U.S. Congress.

Puerto Rico held non-binding referendums in 1967, 1993 and 1998, with statehood never garnering a clear majority and independence never obtaining more than 5 percent of the vote.

The island also was electing legislators and a governor, with Gov. Luis Fortuno of the pro-statehood New Progressive Party seeking a second term. Fortuno, a Republican, was challenged by Alejandro Garcia Padilla, whose Popular Democratic Party favors the status quo. With 817 of 1,643 precincts reporting late Tuesday, Garcia had 427,604 votes, or 48 percent, while Fortuno had 422,506 votes, or 47 percent.

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/201 ... 8&ParentProfile=1058




i almost put 61 in the title.
Author:  Adbot [ November 7th, 2012, 5:45 pm ]
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Author:  Duke Juker [ November 7th, 2012, 7:21 pm ]
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Not gonna happen, but sure, you can have your fun with the idea, trekkie.
Author:  Jason B [ November 8th, 2012, 9:13 pm ]
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Poorer territory, does that mean welfare for them too?
Author:  Evelyn [ November 9th, 2012, 9:17 am ]
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90 degrees is hot? Well if it's humid than sure, but 90 degrees flat is not hot.
Author:  CreepyPirate [ November 9th, 2012, 5:49 pm ]
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Cliff Dude wrote:
90 degrees is hot? Well if it's humid than sure, but 90 degrees flat is not hot.


Oh it is. That's borderline unbearable heat. It very very rarely gets that hot in the UK thankfully cause if it did i would move.
Author:  Lord Rickles [ November 9th, 2012, 10:15 pm ]
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Puerto Rico is near Cuba. A tropical climate surrounded by water - surely it's humid as hell.

And actually, it's not a very poor region. It has a medium household income of $19,000, which is comparable to Latvia or Poland. In the region, that is among the highest.

I personally think they would be a great addition to the union.
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Author:  Evelyn [ November 10th, 2012, 5:05 pm ]
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CreepyPirate wrote:
Cliff Dude wrote:
90 degrees is hot? Well if it's humid than sure, but 90 degrees flat is not hot.


Oh it is. That's borderline unbearable heat. It very very rarely gets that hot in the UK thankfully cause if it did i would move.

I come from Arizona. It's not hot until 110 degrees flat heat. Humidity is a different story.
Author:  Sunset Fish [ November 13th, 2012, 5:26 pm ]
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So.. they want to be part of the states.. so they can get more financial aid..? Is all I read.
Also recently read since the election.. like 10 states want to secede from the country.
Well I mean people in them states have signed petitions for that cause.

Good luck with all of that. [-X
Author:  Kyle [ December 20th, 2012, 3:58 pm ]
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Such a great island nation to visit, i've been there 2 times on college trips with my fraternity brothers. I love their culture, it's the closest you'll get to Cuba without being in Havana. It is already a state in my eyes, for the main reason i don't need a passport to travel there and can move between there and anywhere in the United States.
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