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Author:  CreepyPirate [ August 28th, 2006, 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  RS skill based at all?
Welll due to lack of decent topics in here and extreme repetitiveness i put a question to you.

Is skill involved within RS? Or is it just mindless clicking?

I say skill is involved in certain aspects.

Till tonight i had no real proof but, after waring the Black Knights and there cadets I'm now convinced, there's more to rs than just mindless clicking.

The results of this war are as follows:
cor starting: 238
cor ending: 201

bk starting: 220
bk ending: 0
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I think we can all agree, opts are pretty even.

To find out how many people that works out as divide the number of opts by 3.

We lost around ten people, in total.

73 people only managed to kill 10 out of 79.

Is that really just mindless clicking? How is that even possible? How can 79 people only manage to take out 10, that CAN'T be luck and it cannot be just clicking. Skill is involved and organization.

That's just the pking aspect of the game, other areas i would have to agree are mostly clicking. Skilling, does involve brainpower..you have to know the best and most officiant ways to level up, it takes some brainpower to work out. :P

Thoughts?
Author:  Adbot [ August 28th, 2006, 3:28 pm ]
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Author:  pika69 [ August 28th, 2006, 5:56 pm ]
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I guess that mini games such as castle wars and pest control do take some strategy, and there's no doubt that Pking takes the most, but they are learned skills, unlike skills that require experiance points to raise. You cant have 99 in all stats and suck at pking, or have 70's for combat skills and own at pking, it just matters where you focus your attention.
Author:  Lord Zamorak [ August 28th, 2006, 6:00 pm ]
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Yeah, some stuff takes skill (besides the patience one where people do boring stuff...). I can beat people i dueling, because they don't know hwo to duel good. If you don't use guides, quests take skill. And, even though I haven't done it, I think that the fishing traler does.
Author:  Dave [ August 28th, 2006, 6:44 pm ]
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To me advancing your skills is basically having time and clicking over and over. It doesn't really take much skill to advance a skill. Once you obtain your materials, which most people just buy, its just a matter of clicking the items together to make something or clicking attack on a monster.

Some skills take planning and organization, but most of them can be done with just merely clicking your mouse on items.

Pking is what takes real skill. You can't just go and join a clan and follow people around in the wild and say you are pking. If you always come up with no kills and a lot of deaths after a war or pk run in, you don't have the skill of pking. You have to know what you are doing if you are going to go out there and get some kills.

Castle wars is similar in a way. You have to have a fair idea of the combat part of the game to get some kills, but castle wars is a lot easier because of the wide level range. I don't play castle wars too often, but when I do sometimes I see people doing things that is just not needed. For example, level 100+ people just running around killing people 50 and below for the fun of an easy and unskilled kill. While they don't even pay attention to the flag at all.

In some of my previous clans people have said on their applications that they think they could make a good pker because they get kills in castle wars a lot. When I read that, the first thing that pops into my mind is what I just explained about high levels going for the low levels. It takes no skill at all.

My point being that it takes skill if you want to have a successful pk career. You can't just go out there and think you are going to be able to take out anyone that is lower level then you.

I guess barrows and fight caves take some skill also. You need to plan your fight so you don't get beaten.

Btw, grats on the win Creepy. :oops:
Author:  Cerealix [ August 29th, 2006, 1:43 am ]
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Pking takes skill you have to know what you are doing.
If a clan has good organisation you can get quick KO's, If you have lets say 10 different piles then its going to take a lot longer to kill someone.
Its not just piling its about spamming, tree hugging and rock hugging too, all these take some sort of skill.
I would have expected Corr to beat Bk.
Corr does out level them by about 3cb lvls but Bk has nearly 20 more members.
Corr are way more pking based than Bk, Bk hardly even pks and it showed
Author:  MattVortex [ August 29th, 2006, 2:21 pm ]
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I always think hard about the time:exp ratio when skill training, and i've helped others skill train as well, in the fastest way possible.

Here's an example:

Ardougne square - thieving. I can thieve either the baker stall or the silk stall.

Baker's stall - respawn time: 2.5 seconds. Exp gained: 16.
Silk stall - respawn time: 5 seconds. Exp gained: 24.

Exp gained in one minute:

Baker's stall: 384 exp/minute.
Silk stall: 288 exp/minute.

And so I train on the baker's stall.

That calculation that the baker's stall gets faster exp than the silk stall took me less than a second - i just reinforced it with the proof above. Im sure im not just the only person who does calcuations like that. Intelligence and skill resides in runescape very strongly. Those with the intelligence do well.

Sure, you can mindlessly click and still do well, but it takes some intelligence to do really well. The greatest PKers know exactly when to pray, when to eat, when to use special attacks, when to change weapons. Pro merchanters know when to buy, what to buy, and what to sell. These are the things that take intelligence, and skill.

Creepy, you have given a perfect example. Clearly Corr were already prepared, with tactics and organisation, whereas BK were just the mindless clicking idiots.
Author:  Adbot [ August 29th, 2006, 2:21 pm ]
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Author:  xOhYax [ August 29th, 2006, 3:10 pm ]
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obviously things like fletching take no skill...
Author:  - Tom - [ August 30th, 2006, 1:06 am ]
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yeah i see what you mean, some areas take a lot of skill, some dont, mostly just take time to get used to though...
cor scum
Author:  Anubis [ August 30th, 2006, 4:09 am ]
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Skill?

Hmm.
Outside of pking, runescape is just mindless clicking - simply because you are repeatedly clicking the same thing(s) over and over to do pretty much anything.

However inside of pking, I would say that if there is indeed any skill needed to play Runescape, that would be where it is.
Author:  Kronic [ August 30th, 2006, 4:17 pm ]
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Most training takes no talent; Only a hella patience.

Pking, CW, and PC take strategy though.
Author:  Tidus [ August 30th, 2006, 5:00 pm ]
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All I can say is: Corruption totally owned them.











:lol:
Author:  tye-dye [ September 1st, 2006, 2:15 pm ]
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Id have to say some skills take actual "skill" to lvl up. Some dont take any skill at all they just take "know how" like crafting. If you dont "know how" to make stuff with crafting your gonna be dying a bunch of capes to lvl up lol....
Author:  The Haysta [ September 1st, 2006, 4:52 pm ]
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Almost all skills are mindless clicking. However things like

Castle Wars
Fight Caves + Pits
Barrows
Pking

Do require a certain level of strategy.
Author:  trekkie [ September 1st, 2006, 6:24 pm ]
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when i play castle wars it depends on what i am doing. if i feel like getting my range up, i grab my range outfit and snare runes. if somebody tries to run out with our flag i snare him, and people kill him.

if i feel like killing people i go melee load up on bandages and kill. i try to help my buddies by attack the people that are attacking him. most of the time they go after me since i'm the strongest, this way the guy is still attack at 10 hp.
Author:  Litis [ September 2nd, 2006, 3:59 am ]
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Player killing involves strategy. The rest of the time it's pointless clicking.
A free player's point of view. :roll:
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